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 UltimateDevotion
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Registered: 11/23/12
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Here they are today, and yes, my iphone camera sucks.
  
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Hawksresurrection
Registered: 12/04/08
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Unfortunately damage was already done. The leaves won't repair. But you should look for new, healthier bud growth
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
-niteowl
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UltimateDevotion
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The bud sites, themselves, look alright but those leaves, sheesh. Sucks, I kinda just wanna start over but at the same time i know I'm gonna get SOME smoke frOm this. I'm not gonna beat myself up though this is Only my 2nd grow and I'm gonna keep at it and learn as much as I can.
They really looked great all through veg, after 2 months of veg and I didn't see sex so I flipped lIghts, rid of males and that's when I noticed the downhill start.
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Edited by UltimateDevotion (11/11/13 05:14 PM)
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 budgrowerwannabe
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Dam man .
Like hawk said just look for new growth . Wish you the best!! 
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UltimateDevotion
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Thanks
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UltimateDevotion
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I think the new growth is lookIng pretty decent, I think I'm gonna give em a splash of nutes this weekend.
Meanwhile I found my old 250 watt MH I'm eventually gonna use for a mom and clones, but for now I have a bunch of auto seeds I'm gonna grow a few under that and use distilled water and my tap water side by side and see if my water is the issue.
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Harry Detroit in 304 made one last promise now
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UltimateDevotion
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They're definitely coming around, the buds seem to be progressing nicely compared to how these plants looked the last couple of weeks.
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TomCollins
Registered: 10/06/09
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Ph drop can be a sign of root disease, bacterial growth and rotting in the substrate I believe.
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Ok so let me bring you idiots up to speed.
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UltimateDevotion
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 Re: Having pH problems  [Re: TomCollins]
#694082 - 11/17/13 12:18 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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I know I haven't over watered at all prior ti the symptoms. Maybe they got a slightly over dosage of water when I half ass flushed them and adding the lime but, hey, they're definitely coming around. 
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: Having pH problems [Re: TomCollins]
#694086 - 11/17/13 01:13 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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DonkeyDong69 said:
Ph drop can be a sign of root disease, bacterial growth and rotting in the substrate I believe.
It can be, doesn't mean that's what caused it though. There are all sorts of factors that can cause pH imbalance.
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
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TomCollins
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When it drops bellow 5.0, it's an indicator that bacteria may be releasing organic acids more rapidly than usual into the substrate. It's not uncommon to develop root diseases or pathogens either, so I wouldn't rule it out.
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andyistic said:
Ok so let me bring you idiots up to speed.
The admins are tired of this shitfest being made the joke of the weed community on the Internet.
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: Having pH problems [Re: TomCollins]
#694097 - 11/17/13 02:05 PM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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I know that you read a lot, and can repeat what you read. But I have years of actual experience. What your describing isn't really all that common, and shouldn't be a first conclusion to jump to.
All of you should be adding beneficial organisms that would prevent things like that anyway.
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UltimateDevotion
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Talk to me about these beneficial organisms. I have this floralicious plus shit that I use.
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Edited by UltimateDevotion (11/17/13 02:44 PM)
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Hawksresurrection
Registered: 12/04/08
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PHC biopack. It's a beneficial bacteria supplement. Really great stuff, very water soluble. You should also be using a mychorrizal supplement.
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
-niteowl
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TomCollins
Registered: 10/06/09
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Quote:
hawksapprentice said:
I know that you read a lot, and can repeat what you read. But I have years of actual experience. What your describing isn't really all that common, and shouldn't be a first conclusion to jump to.
All of you should be adding beneficial organisms that would prevent things like that anyway.
Lol, I think that's a really retarded way to reason. When I repeat things, they usually comes from growers who claim the same as you -- years of experience. What I said was it can be, it may be and that it shouldn't be ruled out -- I'm not trying to make conclusions, I'm trying to make discussion. So I'm not really sure who amongst us is truly jumping to conclusions here.
That aside, here my plea: why can't you provide some sort of explanation as to why it could not possibly be bacteria (something that seems like is in overwhelming supply in the root zones of many plants.) Why don't you share your knowledge of these things from your years of experience, since you seem to be so full of that. Aren't for example, the various strains pythium pretty common? How many known causes are there for severe negative PH swings?
I'm not trying to argue with you what the causes of his PH swings are, as he said the plants are now perking up -- I don't have the experience to be able to back myself up in such an argument, but I cannot see why my contributions can't be discussed as they are not at all irrelevant. I can't see what is being learned from you when you give explanations that are so vague as "I have years of experience."
@Ultimate, not saying my word is better than Hawks but Subculture is also another BB/BM supplement that's good, and AN's SensiZym can be used as a treatment for root rot, bacteria and other. You can do your own research.
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: Having pH problems [Re: TomCollins]
#694169 - 11/18/13 01:11 AM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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Too drunk to argue with you, but like I said. It's not common.
Having a high amount of peat is more of a common cause than bacterial overgrowth. And FFOF has quite a bit of peat moss.
I'm arguing that bacterial overgrowth isn't common. So shouldn't be considered until the other aspects are taken care of.
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TomCollins
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DonkeyDong69 said:
I'm not trying to argue with you
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hawksapprentice said:
Too drunk to argue with you
You're just too drunk.
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hawksapprentice said:
Having a high amount of peat is more of a common cause than bacterial overgrowth. And FFOF has quite a bit of peat moss.
I'm arguing that bacterial overgrowth isn't common. So shouldn't be considered until the other aspects are taken care of.
That's what I was looking for  thank you.
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andyistic said:
Ok so let me bring you idiots up to speed.
The admins are tired of this shitfest being made the joke of the weed community on the Internet.
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: Having pH problems [Re: TomCollins]
#694215 - 11/18/13 07:54 AM (11 years, 3 months ago) |
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DonkeyDong69 said:
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DonkeyDong69 said:
I'm not trying to argue with you
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hawksapprentice said:
Too drunk to argue with you
You're just too drunk.
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hawksapprentice said:
usually
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
-niteowl
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UltimateDevotion
TwistedByDesign
Registered: 11/23/12
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I appreciate both of your inputs.
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Harry Detroit in 304 made one last promise now
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Hawksresurrection
Registered: 12/04/08
Posts: 13,464
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Lies 
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
-niteowl
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