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fungicide for organic soil
    #669915 - 05/09/13 07:26 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Hey guys I did some reading on fungcides and other mold soil treatments in The search engine and didn't find much:sad:
So I'm trying not use chemicals that are toxic.
Is that possible?
Advice or recommendations?

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Re: fungicide for organic soil [Re: nnn-yan]
    #669920 - 05/09/13 08:19 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

What exactly are you mixing in your soil that your getting mold?


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Re: fungicide for organic soil [Re: Magash]
    #669921 - 05/09/13 08:25 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

:whathesaid: do you hove a pic of this mold and are you sure its mold and not algee?


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Re: fungicide for organic soil [Re: itsaconspiracy]
    #669922 - 05/09/13 08:27 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I have been using water with lemon juice to acidfy it. And 20-20-20 food every once in awhile. Ill post a pix

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Re: fungicide for organic soil [Re: nnn-yan]
    #669925 - 05/09/13 08:31 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

watering with lemon jucie? i pretty sure that'll mess up your Ph dude


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Re: fungicide for organic soil [Re: itsaconspiracy]
    #669927 - 05/09/13 08:33 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

no I add just enough to make the water 6.8
heres the soil with white "mold?"

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Re: fungicide for organic soil [Re: nnn-yan]
    #669932 - 05/09/13 08:52 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

That looks really bad and its not the lemon for sure. What soil is that and how often do you water and how much water do you put when you do.


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Re: fungicide for organic soil [Re: SmokeSomeHash]
    #669934 - 05/09/13 08:56 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

:whathesaid: wow that looks bad and the lemon juce ain't going to help with that.


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Re: fungicide for organic soil [Re: itsaconspiracy]
    #669941 - 05/09/13 09:29 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I haven't been using lemon juice as a fungicide. Its a ph buffer. And I shit you not this showed up in a day.....:sad:
I was gonna use h2o2
The soil is coir verm and potting soil.
I water every 3to 4 days
And I water each plant about 1/2gal to 3/4gal ( each pot is 9.5gal of soil)

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Re: fungicide for organic soil [Re: nnn-yan]
    #669942 - 05/09/13 09:34 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

use some peroxide and see if that works just not too much


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Re: fungicide for organic soil [Re: itsaconspiracy]
    #669950 - 05/09/13 10:11 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

H2O2 is fungi-acid.  It will burn it down pretty well.

Does your watering method not allow the top of the soil to dry out?

Good luck,

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Re: fungicide for organic soil [Re: Javadog]
    #669951 - 05/09/13 10:24 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Well when I water I just fill up the water bucket with a spout and pour over the top of the soil. Is this abad method?

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Re: fungicide for organic soil [Re: nnn-yan]
    #669952 - 05/09/13 10:30 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

No.  I think that it is good to have the top dry out between
waterings, but that is just me.

Good luck,

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Re: fungicide for organic soil [Re: Javadog]
    #669953 - 05/09/13 11:27 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

You need to fill the container with water until it starts to drain out of the bottom. If your soil is dry sometimes it pulls away from the side so the water just runs down the side so whag i like to do is water once, wait about 5 minutes, then water again, sometimes up to 3 times just to make sure its THOROUGHLY wet with NO dry spots...sometimes i tray water but thats diff.

Once its moist, start letting it drain immediately. If you have a drip tray empty it out, do not let the plant sit in its runoff (or excess water after point of saturation if tray watering).

Let it dry thoroughly before watering again. As in top two inches super dry.

Mold and fungus is usually a sign of high humidity, not enough air flow, too much water, or all of that combined.


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Re: fungicide for organic soil [Re: SmokeSomeHash]
    #669954 - 05/10/13 12:04 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Well you may not think it's the lemon juice. Guess what? It's the juice.

http://www.hydro-organics.com/home/index.php?productID=712

http://www.hydro-organics.com/home/index.php?ukey=product&productID=713

Those are organic ph adjusters cause I can't figure out why else you would use lemon juice.


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Re: fungicide for organic soil [Re: SmokeSomeHash]
    #669964 - 05/10/13 06:00 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

SmokeSomeHash said:
You need to fill the container with water until it starts to drain out of the bottom. If your soil is dry sometimes it pulls away from the side so the water just runs down the side so whag i like to do is water once, wait about 5 minutes, then water again, sometimes up to 3 times just to make sure its THOROUGHLY wet with NO dry spots...sometimes i tray water but thats diff.
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That's how I water.
But if lemon juic is a problem, could I use vinager to lower it? I'm trying to stay away from as many chemicals as possible.

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Re: fungicide for organic soil [Re: nnn-yan]
    #669965 - 05/10/13 06:22 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Look at the post above you man.  We already linked to natural ph adjusters.  :facepalm:


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Re: fungicide for organic soil [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #669967 - 05/10/13 07:21 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

If lemon juice is so bad for growing why does Grodan put it right on their package to use lemon juice to condition their rockwool if you dont have pH down.

Ive used it before in soil and seen others do it as well but ive never seen mold like that.

If it really is the juice can someone explain to me why?


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Re: fungicide for organic soil [Re: SmokeSomeHash]
    #670002 - 05/10/13 12:02 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I appreciate the links. But I too still have question about why? I don't think it is the lemon juice because I used lemon juice since day 1 and no mold. But since the plants got big and the room had to be rearranged I still only have one fan. I may need more air circulation!
And on the plus side the h2o2 is working quite well :thumbup:

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Re: fungicide for organic soil [Re: nnn-yan] * 1
    #670003 - 05/10/13 12:08 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Ok ok... So since when is ph down a "chemical". It's just ionized liquid (hydrogen). Once you mix it into your solution, it is no longer ionized!! Just hydrogen...

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