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Unknown Problems
    #667556 - 04/25/13 02:12 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

OK so part of my first crops are getting brown rust-colored spots randomly all over the fan leaves then the lower older leaves are getting the spots then turning yellow and dying off. I've been feeding it with PHd water and Calmag supplements but they keep dying off, its starting to spread through out the whole plant, any help or ideas whats causing it?

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Re: Unknown Problems [Re: UnsureE]
    #667565 - 04/25/13 02:40 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

the pics are in my album

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Re: Unknown Problems [Re: UnsureE]
    #667566 - 04/25/13 02:42 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

i don't know a lot about the different probs with plants cause im on my frist grow now, but more info i needed and pics. 

are you growing in soil? coc? hydro?.. if in soil what brand of soil are you using? how old are the plants?  what nutrients are you using?
also what is your ph of the water?

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Re: Unknown Problems [Re: Mrshroom]
    #667570 - 04/25/13 02:47 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Im using HappyFrog soil the plants are  six weeks old and the ph is usually around 6-6.5 I just have the cheap ph indicator solution not the digital tester. And my pics should be in my album  just click the symbol below "unrated" under my name on the left side of the posts

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Re: Unknown Problems [Re: UnsureE]
    #667571 - 04/25/13 02:49 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

IM using BioThrive from GenHydro and a CalMag supplement from GenHydro

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Re: Unknown Problems [Re: UnsureE]
    #667577 - 04/25/13 03:19 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Please fill this out.

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1. Are you growing from seed or clones?
2. How old are your plants?
3. How tall are your plants?
4. What size containers are they planted in?
5. What is your soil mix?
6. How often do you water and what type of water do you use and how much you give per watering?
7. What is the pH of your water?
8. What kind of fertilizer do you use and what is its NPK ratio?
9. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything?
10. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights")
11. How close are your lights to the plants?
12. What size is your grow space in square feet?
13. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space?
14. What is the pH of the soil?
15. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space?
16. How much experience do you have growing?


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Re: Unknown Problems [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #667579 - 04/25/13 03:50 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

1. Seeds
2. 6 Weeks and three days old
3. 10 1/2 inches because of LST using rubber twist tie and string      taped to the pot.. about 14-16 inches wide
4. In 3 Gallon pot
5. the first two inches is perlite(not sure what kind) then HappyFrog soil fills the rest of the pot
6. Watering about every three days last watering was with cal mag supplement probably a little less than half a gallon just until I get enough run off water to PH test. Three days before that was just 6-6.5 PHd water, three days before that was with nutrients(BioThrive). So in a week it gets one nutrient watering and one plain watering PHd out of a Brita water filter.
7. I just have the PH indicator solution not a digital tester so I get it as close to 6.5 as possible usually between 6-6.5
8. The BioThrive nutrient has a 4-3-3 Ratio of NPK
9. Don't spray the foliage with anything (other than my other plant which has some sort of mold that Im using GreenCure to spary the leaves about twice a week and its not going away, stunting the growth and growing weird skinny crippled-looking leaves)
10. I have 5 42watt CFL for this plant(8ball Kush) and for the moldy one(Northern Light) and for the two seedlings so  a total of 210 watts for four plants-two 6 week olds and two seedlings
11. The lights hang about 4inches away from the tops of the plants
12. My grow space is 2x3ft
13. Temperature is 75-78 and Humidity is 32(dry)
14. Not sure of the PH of the soil but was told that it was PH perfect soil
15. I've seen maybe 4 or 5 gnats
16. First grow

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Re: Unknown Problems [Re: UnsureE]
    #667581 - 04/25/13 03:58 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I put up some pictures of my Northern Light plant that has had some kind of crippling mold since it was like two weeks old its been stunting its growth, cant rub it off with my fingers more like a deformity than mold with skinny leaves and yellowish looking blisters on the leaves..cant really see to good in the pics cuz of my camera but I've been using GreenCure to spray on the foliage twice a week.. doesn't seem to be helping though, all the new growth coming in is infected with the mold.

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Re: Unknown Problems [Re: UnsureE]
    #667599 - 04/25/13 05:41 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

I would flush with 6 gallons of pH'd water, and then do one last gallon with 1ml of cal/mag and half dose of your flowering nutrients. 


How much of the flowering and cal/mag have you been giving?


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Re: Unknown Problems [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #667625 - 04/25/13 07:41 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

well its vegging nutrients  and I do one tbsp. for a gallon of each nutrients and cal/mag, but what do you mean flush it and should I do it for both of my bad plants?

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Re: Unknown Problems [Re: UnsureE]
    #667638 - 04/25/13 09:30 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

It wouldn't hurt to do both plants. 


And why are you giving Veg nutes for Flowering?  They have different nutrient needs while flowering.  this could be a part of your problem, but not the whole problem.


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Re: Unknown Problems [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #667694 - 04/26/13 04:27 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

ok and im using veg nutrient cuz I haven't switched them to the flowering stage I wanted to  get them healthy first. How would I flush them, just pour the gallons through one after the other?

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Re: Unknown Problems [Re: UnsureE]
    #667700 - 04/26/13 09:17 AM (11 years, 7 months ago)

:jackiechanofapproval: I do it slow

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Re: Unknown Problems [Re: UnsureE]
    #667717 - 04/26/13 01:02 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Sorry, for some reason I thought you were in flowering, my bad. 

When flushing I would do each gallon over a period of about 15 minutes.


Transplanting usually doesn't hurt when you are seeing issues like these as well.

My guess is that you have been giving them too much in the way of nutrients.


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    #667746 - 04/26/13 05:00 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

ok thanks Im going to flush them now

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Re: Unknown Problems [Re: UnsureE]
    #667747 - 04/26/13 05:02 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

this wont get them over watered and drown them?

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Re: Unknown Problems [Re: UnsureE]
    #667749 - 04/26/13 05:07 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Not as long as you let them dry out before the next watering.  I wouldn't recommend it if it was detrimental.  And as always, transplanting is always useful in these situations.


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Re: Unknown Problems [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #667751 - 04/26/13 05:15 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

ok so I just gave it one gallon in about three minutes and it was pretty dried out so wait 15minutes then another gallon?

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Re: Unknown Problems [Re: UnsureE]
    #667752 - 04/26/13 05:17 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

yup


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Re: Unknown Problems [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #667754 - 04/26/13 05:23 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

cool thanks ill get some bigger pots soon and transplant them too

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Re: Unknown Problems [Re: UnsureE]
    #667758 - 04/26/13 06:09 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

http://www.reddit.com/r/microgrowery/comments/19i6io/time_to_chop_auto_northern_lights/ ; Hey hawksapprentice, any idea what they mean by flushing for two to three days every 8 or 9 days mentioned in this thread?

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    #667761 - 04/26/13 06:26 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Nope, but then I wasn't willing to read through all of that to find it.  I've never heard of doing that.


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Re: Unknown Problems [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #667763 - 04/26/13 06:37 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

oo well it was about halfway down the page the biggest paragraph, but they say that flushing regularly  helps get rid of the excess salts and nutrients, should flushing be done only when there is problems with the plant?

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Re: Unknown Problems [Re: UnsureE]
    #667775 - 04/26/13 07:46 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Flushing that often is completely unnecessary.  Especially if you keep it light on the nutrients.


You shouldn't have to flush more than twice a grow.


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Re: Unknown Problems [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #667783 - 04/26/13 08:26 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

oo ok and I usually do keep it light with nutrients usually the minimum stated on the label.

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