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 how long will mix nutrients mix in water stay good? 
#664225 - 03/30/13 11:22 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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hey just wondering how long will nutrients after mixed in water stay good for?
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Re: how long will mix nutrients mix in water stay good? [Re: Mrshroom]
#664233 - 03/30/13 11:59 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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In a cool, dark place at least a week or so. But the nutes will sink to the bottom and stick to the container walls somewhat.
Also, the ph of the mix might change over a couple days.
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Re: how long will mix nutrients mix in water stay good? [Re: Maestro]
#664235 - 03/30/13 12:22 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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In a cool, dark place at least a week or so. But the nutes will sink to the bottom and stick to the container walls somewhat.
Also, the ph of the mix might change over a couple days.
ahh ok thanks man, yah Im more just asking cause I figured I would try to prep the water/nutrient like the day before ...or if I have left over wanted to know if it will still be good for the next feeding/watering
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Re: how long will mix nutrients mix in water stay good? [Re: Mrshroom]
#664266 - 03/30/13 04:34 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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I've used Advanced Nutrients and Canna--Canna holds up well for 1+ week (a/b+zym, with rhizo and boost its a little less). Advanced will form lots of solids and leave a bunch of solids on the bottom as well as coating the walls of the tank. Canna doesn't do that, I can go a few weeks without scrubbing the tank with canna whereas Advanced will need soap/scrbbing almost weekly to stop the mineral buildup on the tank. After a few weeks of not even scrubbing the Canna tank it will have a very slight coating of solids that washes right off--Advanced practically needs to chiseled off the plastic.
I also use only a 5 gallon bucket as my res tank to avoid any long term problems--only ~10 days of res max, 2 days worth when its in peak production in week 5. Canna told me to avoid using an airstone because your pumping in molecules that affect pH, bacteria levels and whatnot. They advised me to use a waterfall type agitation for a minute every few hours if I needed to satisfy my urge to stir the tank. I used to do that, but then i got tired of washing the pump so I just said screw it--I think it works a little better by not stirring at all. This is a standing, non-recirculating tank using blumat auto-watering.
Even when the pH and PPM's are matched, the AN solidifies much sooner and makes a huge mess. My point is that its generally about a week, but some do much much better than others. Basic solutions tend to last longer than when you load them down with additives. Just get an appropriate sized res tank so as to not over-mix a shit ton of nutrients that sit.
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Re: how long will mix nutrients mix in water stay good? [Re: phychotron]
#664298 - 03/30/13 06:23 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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well im going in soil. right now my 12 small plants are in small size pots. and they only have there 3rd set of leafs and working on the forth set .. so ive only been using about a gallon of water for them so far. and just mixing everything up in a 1gallon water jug.
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Re: how long will mix nutrients mix in water stay good? [Re: Mrshroom]
#664313 - 03/30/13 07:13 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: how long will mix nutrients mix in water stay good? [Re: Mrshroom]
#664329 - 03/30/13 09:09 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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well im going in soil. right now my 12 small plants are in small size pots. and they only have there 3rd set of leafs and working on the forth set .. so ive only been using about a gallon of water for them so far. and just mixing everything up in a 1gallon water jug.
Tell me it ain't so brO
12 plants sharing a gallon of water?right now, I have 6 plants, also 3-4 sets of leafs, and they get 4 gal put together.
Are you watering slowly until they start to drip? If not how?
How often do you water?
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Re: how long will mix nutrients mix in water stay good? [Re: Maestro]
#664331 - 03/30/13 09:13 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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well im going in soil. right now my 12 small plants are in small size pots. and they only have there 3rd set of leafs and working on the forth set .. so ive only been using about a gallon of water for them so far. and just mixing everything up in a 1gallon water jug.
Tell me it ain't so brO
12 plants sharing a gallon of water?right now, I have 6 plants, also 3-4 sets of leafs, and they get 4 gal put together.
Are you watering slowly until they start to drip? If not how?
How often do you water?
I was wondering if anyone was going to see that!
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Re: how long will mix nutrients mix in water stay good? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
#664332 - 03/30/13 09:23 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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yes I am watering it slow. its like every 2nd or 3rd day that I water.. I check the soil everyday. I will stick a finger in about a inch or two and if it is still damp I will leave it be
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Re: how long will mix nutrients mix in water stay good? [Re: Mrshroom]
#664333 - 03/30/13 09:25 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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oh and I am getting a little run off after every water
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Re: how long will mix nutrients mix in water stay good? [Re: Mrshroom]
#664391 - 03/31/13 08:27 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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so am I under watering the plants?
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Re: how long will mix nutrients mix in water stay good? [Re: Mrshroom]
#664393 - 03/31/13 09:48 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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I dont think you gave them enough I just poor the water really slow and all around the soil to make sure its all wet.How i feel that I watered enough is i pick the pot up before i water and after you do this and see the difference.As for run off not really good indicator of well watered because if your soil is real dry like mine .It will run down the sides and not even get all the soil.
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Re: how long will mix nutrients mix in water stay good? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
#664409 - 03/31/13 12:09 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mushroom the thing is, that depends on the size of the container. So if the containers are so small that they only need 1gal for 12 of them, then you should have transplanted them a while ago (3-4 leaf sets). Containers that are big enough for 12x 3-4 leaf set plants would require more then a gallon of water.
So how big are the pots(/cups?)?
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Re: how long will mix nutrients mix in water stay good? [Re: Maestro]
#664410 - 03/31/13 12:16 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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here are some pics of the pots
   
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Re: how long will mix nutrients mix in water stay good? [Re: Mrshroom]
#664413 - 03/31/13 12:45 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well first of all, I only see 6 plants and these are old pics?
But yeah, no way a gallon is enough for even 6 of those. I'm guessing they're 1 gal pots. I got one (around same age) in a gallon pot that I transplanted like a week ago, watered a half galon, and haven't watered since.
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Re: how long will mix nutrients mix in water stay good? [Re: Mrshroom]
#664415 - 03/31/13 12:46 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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You shouldn't have to water those for a long time man.
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Re: how long will mix nutrients mix in water stay good? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#664419 - 03/31/13 12:56 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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This thread got jacked! whats up with saving nut?
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Re: how long will mix nutrients mix in water stay good? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
#664437 - 03/31/13 02:14 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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ok I just watered the plants used two gallons of water this time
here is a couple quick pics i took
   
k i noticed that some of the leaves have a light yellow spot here and there.. also i started to notice some of the leaves are curling a little and the leaves seem a little dry...
for this watering i added 1ml of liquid karma , 1 ml of Botanicare cns17 veg feed, and 1ml of Botanicare pure blend tea. I know it was not much but was not sure if these was still a lot of nutrients left in the fox farm soil sense the seed only been about 2 weeks. so figured i would start off light and next watering i could add more if the plants don't respond bad to it
Edited by Mrshroom (03/31/13 02:20 PM)
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Re: how long will mix nutrients mix in water stay good? [Re: Mrshroom]
#664491 - 03/31/13 10:20 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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No need for nutrients yet man. Just Karma. Also I would give each of those pot a half gallon each.
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Re: how long will mix nutrients mix in water stay good? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#664500 - 04/01/13 02:35 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: how long will mix nutrients mix in water stay good? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
#664503 - 04/01/13 04:41 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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k will do.. now u said I wont need to water that much.. how long do u think I can go between each watering?
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Re: how long will mix nutrients mix in water stay good? [Re: Mrshroom]
#664517 - 04/01/13 09:36 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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At least a week or so!
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Re: how long will mix nutrients mix in water stay good? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
#664529 - 04/01/13 10:56 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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kk, well I just checked the girls from the watering yesterday and they exploded, could not believe how much they grew in less then a day
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Re: how long will mix nutrients mix in water stay good? [Re: Mrshroom]
#664537 - 04/01/13 11:48 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hehe I knew that was coming
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Re: how long will mix nutrients mix in water stay good? [Re: Maestro]
#664539 - 04/01/13 11:55 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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huh? knew what was coming?
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Re: how long will mix nutrients mix in water stay good? [Re: Mrshroom]
#664541 - 04/01/13 12:09 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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This is like the 5th thread recently where peeps underwater their plants. Always ends with big progress
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Re: how long will mix nutrients mix in water stay good? [Re: Maestro]
#664544 - 04/01/13 12:31 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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well ive read a lot in grow books and online that newbies at growing tend to over water there plants a lot and kill it so I was trying to be careful in not doing that... figured I would rather water less at a time and more often them to much at once.
well I only used 2gallons of water yesterday between the 12 plants and I ended up having a lot of run off.. should I stick with the 2 gallons next watering and work my way up or jump up in using more water next time
Edited by Mrshroom (04/01/13 12:34 PM)
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Re: how long will mix nutrients mix in water stay good? [Re: Mrshroom]
#664546 - 04/01/13 12:42 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Idk why you took that personally but you obv did, so my bad. Also I think by now, the whole newbies overwatering thing is not even a generalization, but a misconception.
Mostly any good book will explain that cannabis likes to be watered thoroughly and rarely, which is the opposite of a little bit, but more often.
You should just do the 1/2 gal per plant.
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Re: how long will mix nutrients mix in water stay good? [Re: Maestro]
#664548 - 04/01/13 12:47 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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oh I took nothing personal from that.
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Re: how long will mix nutrients mix in water stay good? [Re: Mrshroom]
#664800 - 04/03/13 04:48 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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My advice, is if you want to store water.. just plain like 50-100ppm tap water... put it in a jug and leave it at room temperature..
as far as mixing nutrients, after my last watering i will never premix nutes again. sugars, bacteria, nutrients.. its a bad mix to leave and cultivate in your water..
its one thing if your just mixing it up, wam-bam shake & bake and then water. i just like my water to be room temp before i mix and water, thats the best way.
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Re: how long will mix nutrients mix in water stay good? [Re: boneynerd]
#664861 - 04/04/13 04:05 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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My advice, is if you want to store water.. just plain like 50-100ppm tap water... put it in a jug and leave it at room temperature..
as far as mixing nutrients, after my last watering i will never premix nutes again. sugars, bacteria, nutrients.. its a bad mix to leave and cultivate in your water..
its one thing if your just mixing it up, wam-bam shake & bake and then water. i just like my water to be room temp before i mix and water, thats the best way.
 I keep my water at room temp. too. If its too cool I can see my girls wilt bad and thats not good!!
I never needed to heat any or would i for any reason . Dump out the left over food man. After you do some mixes you will learn how much you need to mix with out waste
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