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 Thebooedocksaint
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 So, opinions 
#661421 - 03/07/13 08:41 PM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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I got in an argument earlier about the constitution, and how important it was. I said that the constitution shouldn't be put up on a pedestal like it is, as I don't really believe a bunch of Racist old white guys from 200 years ago wrote the perfect constitution. -His melting started here-
Then I started talking about how "rights" are completely abstract, and that they are a social construct with no basis in the natural world.
What are your opinions of the constitution, and what do you think of rights?
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Manitou
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As you say, nobody, not even today, can make a perfect thang. Thats my opinion.
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Picklez
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I believe it is the greatest document of it's time. It set a very important precedent for the rights of people
While I dont believe it is perfect, that is why there have been amendments added over time
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Re: So, opinions [Re: Picklez]
#661443 - 03/08/13 01:13 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Indeed. Culture was quite different 300 years ago. While there may be many things involved that on the surface look arrogant and bigoted, the truths contained within of governance cannot be refuted. Interactions between man are still pretty much the same fundamentally now as then.
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RasJeph
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If it worked like it was supposed to it would deserve the status it holds.
If.
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sloantbone
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Re: So, opinions [Re: RasJeph] 1
#661450 - 03/08/13 08:01 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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The greatest thing we have is our human rights.
Yet, it is never taught to us.
Ever wonder why?
Countries are not what you think they are.
Countries are Corporations, and citizens is just another term for "slave"
You child are a slave on a corporation plantation. They day you were born your mother gave you to the plantation aka corporation...aka...country.
How does it feel to know you and I are a slave?
All rights have become privileges and about the only think you can do that is not illegal and taxed is to fuck.
But the fully thing is about being fucked is that it is a direct analogy with that the system has always done to you...fuck you hard up the ass
A wonderful thought for the day eh 
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DungenessDank
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Might makes right, unfortunately liberal fagg0try seems to be the mightiest ideology among the herd of masturbating masses.
Lysander Spooner said: "But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain - that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case, it is unfit to exist."
As far "old white racists" (herp to the derp), it is a document unlike any at its time, and even though its impotent and worthless, it's ideals are superior to the ones our current society is reaching for, which will lead to its eventual collapse.
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DungenessDank
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Something being a "social construct" doesn't mean it isn't very real in it's manifestation. Rights are safeguards, essentially an expression of "I don't want you to do X to me, so I assert that I have the right to not be X'd", of course it requires actual force to back up such an assertion.
When assertion and power combine we get material rights, regardless of how idealist they may be.
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Re: So, opinions [Re: sloantbone] 1
#661455 - 03/08/13 08:40 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Being Canadian you dont really get to chime in on the US Constitution.
But we certainly arent slaves.. Saying we are slaves is ignorant as shit to people who live in a country where slavery existed
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Re: So, opinions [Re: sloantbone]
#661457 - 03/08/13 09:13 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
sloantbone said:
The greatest thing we have is our human rights.
Yet, it is never taught to us.
Ever wonder why?
Countries are not what you think they are.
Countries are Corporations, and citizens is just another term for "slave"
You child are a slave on a corporation plantation. They day you were born your mother gave you to the plantation aka corporation...aka...country.
How does it feel to know you and I are a slave?
All rights have become privileges and about the only think you can do that is not illegal and taxed is to fuck.
But the fully thing is about being fucked is that it is a direct analogy with that the system has always done to you...fuck you hard up the ass
A wonderful thought for the day eh
Even the human rights are made by a specific culture and isn't necessarely adapted to everywhere, it was made by occidentals, constructed by an occidental way of seeing life that isn't shared everywhere on the globe.
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Pour un instant, j'ai respiré très fort
Ça m'a permis de visiter mon corps
Des inconnus vivent en roi chez moi
Moi qui avait accepté leurs lois
J'ai perdu mon temps à gagner du temps
J'ai besoin de me trouver une histoire à me conter
Pour instant j'ai oublié mon nom
Harmonium - Pour un instant
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DungenessDank
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Re: So, opinions [Re: Picklez] 1
#661458 - 03/08/13 09:14 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Liberalism makes everything a fucking joke. Work is slavery, Looking at a woman when she doesn't want you to is Rape, Fur is murder, etc...
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Picklez
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Quote:
DungenessDank said:
Liberalism makes everything a fucking joke. Work is slavery, Looking at a woman when she doesn't want you to is Rape, Fur is murder, etc...
I hope you're joking
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DungenessDank
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Re: So, opinions [Re: Picklez]
#661460 - 03/08/13 09:16 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nope, I'm pretty serious.
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Re: So, opinions [Re: Picklez] 1
#661475 - 03/08/13 09:38 AM (11 years, 8 months ago) |
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im stayin outta this one
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Re: So, opinions [Re: P-O]
#661478 - 03/08/13 09:41 AM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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I just think that anyone who bitches about quality of life in America has a fucking clue about the world and therefore shows their overall ignorance
There are people all over the world who dont even have clean drinking water, food to eat, or under rule of dictators and people want to bitch about being "slaves," just because they have to pay taxes or whatever other absurd rationale they have
Go travel a bit and get back to me on how bad life in America is
(not directed at you btw PO)
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P-O
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Re: So, opinions [Re: Picklez]
#661482 - 03/08/13 09:44 AM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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no work today ?
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DungenessDank
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Re: So, opinions [Re: Picklez]
#661494 - 03/08/13 09:58 AM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'm in favor of bringing back slavery, but for everyone.
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DungenessDank
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Egalitarian Slavery.
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P-O
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as long as i get to do the whipping .... im down
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