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 resincoatedlungs
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 CFL vs. HPS for veg? 
#659265 - 02/16/13 11:28 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Looking for some input on what would be best for vegging.
Right now I have a 1-month old plant that was just recently tied down to start this training:
Growth has been pretty slow, and I'm broke so I can't afford to get another MH bulb right now, vegging under 52 watts of 6500K CFL.
Should I just step up the wattage for the CFLs (Which I have plenty of, it's just a pain in the ass the rig up.) or would it be better to just veg under the 400w HPS I have?
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Hawksresurrection
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Just veg under the HPS.
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resincoatedlungs
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Thanks, that's what I was hoping to hear. 
Since it's so young, should I dim to 50% or will the full 400 be fine for it?
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Full strength.
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 budgrowerwannabe
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Quote:
resincoatedlungs said:
Looking for some input on what would be best for vegging.
Right now I have a 1-month old plant that was just recently tied down to start this training:
Growth has been pretty slow, and I'm broke so I can't afford to get another MH bulb right now, vegging under 52 watts of 6500K CFL.
Should I just step up the wattage for the CFLs (Which I have plenty of, it's just a pain in the ass the rig up.) or would it be better to just veg under the 400w HPS I have?
That is what Im tring to do under cfls looks good but slow one good thing no stretching. There are soo bushy
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Quote:
resincoatedlungs said:
Looking for some input on what would be best for vegging.
Right now I have a 1-month old plant that was just recently tied down to start this training:
Growth has been pretty slow, and I'm broke so I can't afford to get another MH bulb right now, vegging under 52 watts of 6500K CFL.
Should I just step up the wattage for the CFLs (Which I have plenty of, it's just a pain in the ass the rig up.) or would it be better to just veg under the 400w HPS I have?
There is never a time when cfl's are better then HID.
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resincoatedlungs
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 Re: CFL vs. HPS for veg? [Re: Magash]
#659339 - 02/17/13 06:29 PM (11 years, 9 months ago) |
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Good to know, I didn't know if the stretch from using HPS to veg would be enough to justify the 6500K CFL.
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That is what Im tring to do under cfls looks good but slow one good thing no stretching. There are soo bushy
How old are those?
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budgrowerwannabe
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I think 42 day old just took some clones going to start flowering soon.
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resincoatedlungs
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Why flower so young?
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y not How old do you think they should be?
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resincoatedlungs
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I planned on taking clones at around 2 months, vegging for at least 2 months, probably closer to 3. But I also only have 1 plant so I'm trying to get enough to last me until the clones are ready to flower.
The 5-gallon pot I'm using is has a 37-inch circumference, so I'm shooting for a three-footer after it's all said and done.
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Edited by resincoatedlungs (02/17/13 07:24 PM)
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I took some clones two days ago I hope they root. So I cam flower the moms and veg the new clones.
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Quote:
resincoatedlungs said:
I planned on taking clones at around 2 months, vegging for at least 2 months, probably closer to 3. But I also only have 1 plant so I'm trying to get enough to last me until the clones are ready to flower.
The 5-gallon pot I'm using is has a 37-inch circumference, so I'm shooting for a three-footer after it's all said and done.
3 feet? Tall? 3 months is a long ass veg time unless you're trying to grow a tree. I mean, you'll get a giant plant, but it'll be a bitch to keep trained, AND you're looking at a 180+ day grow (and that's optimistic) after you get through flowering. 30 day veg is quite adequate, 60 days, your plant is gonna be 6-7 feet tall (untrained), 90 days, well, you better be using an HID light just to penetrate the canopy!
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Not to mention that a 5-gallon pot isn't big enough for a 90 day veg; it'll get root bound.
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So you think 30 days of veg is good ?
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resincoatedlungs
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Looking back on notes from my last (first) grow, I doubt I would've went for 3 months, but I get what you mean.
My first grow had a 3-foot tall plant, vegged for JUST under 60 days using CFL, and the buckets were less than 2 gallons each.
I had plenty of problems, but ended up with a little over 2 oz. of great bud.
http://www.growery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/645972/page/1
After making a LOT of improvements, (FFOF, FF Trio soil nutes, LST unstead of just letting it grow, bigger soil container, breeder seeds instead of mexi-brick.) I feel like getting another 3-foot (Or taller.) plant should be no problem, especially while tying down. And yeah I wouldn't even attempt to flower it if I wasn't using HPS.
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81renaissance
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I veg 30 days in 3 gallon smart pots and my plants are definitely bigger than 3 feet.
Now that you'll be causing your plant less stress, and fulfilling its needs better, yours will be bigger with a shorter veg.
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resincoatedlungs
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Gotcha.
How much can I expect it to put on during the stretch when the switch to flower comes?
And at the risk of going off-topic, when I moved it into the HPS area, I saw two roots sticking out about 3 inches from the bottom of the bucket. Will these be a problem? I thought if the roots got light it could be a fairly serious issue for the whole plant.
Edited by resincoatedlungs (02/18/13 04:28 PM)
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81renaissance
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It'll double in size after the switch.
With regard to your second question, the exposed roots will die, but the rest of the plant will be fine.
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BlueBerry_Swisher said:I want French fries. No, I want a penis French. Thank you. I'm so excited. I can not contain myself. Now I eat chocolate. It is so good. I'm trying to rub it all over myself. And then lick. Now I need a hot shower. The end.
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