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 the joural of my yellow leafs 
#651998 - 12/19/12 03:41 PM (12 years, 5 days ago) |
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Soil Growers:
1. Are you growing from seed or clones? seed
2. How old are your plants? i would say about 60days
3. How tall are your plants? 2 to 3 foot rang
4. What size containers are they planted in? #5 i think there 4.25 gallon pots
5. What is your soil mix? peat moss/perlite/cow and horse poo
6. How often do you water and what type of water do you use? every 2 to 3 days rain water
7. What is the pH of your water? i dont know what the run off is but im getting a strong 7 almost a 8
8. What kind of fertilizer do you use and what is its NPK ratio? seeding on in to the veg stage green light super bloom 12-55-6,and these iv been jumping around trying to find whats right for my girls veg into bloom miracle-gro liquid cactus plant food 2-7-7,miracle-grow bone meal 6-9-0 and blood meal 12-0-0,ironnite mineral supplement 1-0-1, and limerite for the PH O and some compost tea
9. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything? yes sinc this started i foliar feed with miracle-gro 2-7-7 cactus plant food 20 drops in 33oz water feed to 12 plants not shure if it was tap or rain water
10. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights") 1000watt hps
11. How close are your lights to the plants? 16 inches dead center
12. What size is your grow space in square feet?6f4inx6ft4inx6ft4in or a 76x76x76 grow box
13. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space?80.2 65.7F
14. What is the pH of the soil? rangs from 7 to 8 strong 7
15. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space? blackfly larva and blackfly some thing els with the dirt little redish bugs they move fast and seem to like it down in the dirt they come out when i water or mess with the top inch of soil
16. How much experience do you have growing? out door gorilla growing i think they call it about 4 or 5 years indoor not shit first time ever im surprised i ever made it passed the fuzzy white mold that kills my seed
Edited by cdmc1984 (12/19/12 03:47 PM)
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Re: the joural of my tellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#651999 - 12/19/12 03:54 PM (12 years, 5 days ago) |
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Looks like over fertilization to me man, severe over-fertilization....
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Yeah, gotta stay away from all that Miracle Gro SHIT.
Also the nute you're using in veg is WAY too hot for young plants.
Finally, if you're accurately measuring pH, you need to get your plant out of those basic ranges and back to a mildly acidic soil, otherwise you'll lock out all the nutes you're trying to feed her.
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Re: the joural of my tellow leafs [Re: 81renaissance]
#652042 - 12/19/12 08:11 PM (12 years, 5 days ago) |
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thanks for the help
most the time i just go out in spring with the GPS get lost and drop 40 to 50 good seed in 3 different sports this is a lot more work is pee for the ph and compost tea ok for the fert on a budget and when i do go back to fertiling what n/p/k should i try to look for
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Re: the joural of my tellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#652063 - 12/20/12 01:24 AM (12 years, 5 days ago) |
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Pee for the pH? Are you fucking kidding?
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hey im new i grow boomers inside and the girls out doors thats all i know. pee on the plants in the wood befor a rain and they do great. but that could be the rain washes the pee away leveing a ph of about 7 could use milk it has a ph of 6 this is what iv been going off of
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Pee for the pH? Are you fucking kidding?
I would be concerned about disease issues....our own waste is typically
toxic to us, and while urine is filtered of bacteria this is not the case
for viruses.
Good luck,
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Re: the joural of my tellow leafs [Re: Javadog]
#652084 - 12/20/12 10:38 AM (12 years, 5 days ago) |
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I think your reaction is probably along the lines of those who hear my plants grow in all different types of shit literally but I can only think of urine being beneficial. It's free ammonia and a lot so it would need to be diluted a lot. Probably why the OP has always known to do if before rain.
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Re: the joural of my tellow leafs [Re: NameInUse]
#652102 - 12/20/12 01:25 PM (12 years, 4 days ago) |
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Urine is NOT beneficial. It's only beneficial after being diluted and aged. And it really has no place in your indoor grow. It is NOT a knee jerk reaction, I have seen people ask this time and again. My answer will be the same. Some some proper nutrients and pH up and pH down.
If you're not willing to buy proper pH up or down, then baking soda and lemon juice can work.
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i tryed the baking soda and killed a male plant i was going to try cross with a girl i got so how would i use the baking soda some think like a 1/2 or a 1/4 teaspoon to a gallon of rain water
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Re: the joural of my tellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#652129 - 12/20/12 05:26 PM (12 years, 4 days ago) |
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just some more stuff i found
(((I use good old armor and hammer baking soda and generic distilled white vinegar. I have not tried or even considered trying red wine vinegar or anything of the sort since it is the acid we are after.
1/4 tsp vinegar/gallon/point PH down adjustment
1/2 tsp baking soda/TEN gallons/point PH up adjustment
If you need finer adjustments or just want something that is a little more forgiving you can weaken these by mixing with distilled water.
I see absolutely no benefit to purchasing PH up and down or other more obscure acids. For less than $5 I have enough PH up and down to last me for the foreseeable future.)))
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Re: the joural of my tellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#652133 - 12/20/12 05:47 PM (12 years, 4 days ago) |
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You must have added like a whole box per gallon of water or something to kill a plant with it man. There was probably something else wrong with it.
Why don't you just buy some real pH up and down?
And on top of that, why are you using rain water? It's not necessarily the best route. Depending on the composition of your tap water that can be just fine for your plants.
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i did add a good amount prob was too much on the soda
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#652221 - 12/21/12 12:07 PM (12 years, 3 days ago) |
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up date ph 5.5 about two weeks in to flower plant dieing still from bottom up leafs yellowing still from tips back to steam yellowing start between veins also turning brown on edges and tips
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#652232 - 12/21/12 12:42 PM (12 years, 3 days ago) |
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Well as we stated. you over ferted them. So you must take corrective action against that. And the pH for soil should be in the 6.5 area.
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just doing up dates at this point
you can see extra blade almost like the plant is replaceing blades instead of hole leaf not shure
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#652263 - 12/21/12 03:17 PM (12 years, 3 days ago) |
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So have you don't anything? Have you flushed???
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i think im going to look in to DWC i flushed the day i started the journal now im fighting ph ups and downs there are 11 plants and they all have different ph iv focused my efforts to the worst first but it seems every thing wants to just go acidic on me O i dont know if this means any thing but iv gotten a couple plant that want to branch off 4 or 5 times in the same spot some leafs do it too ill get 7 blades to a leaf then a small blade or two will come out the top of the leaf the last pic shows what im talking about
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#652282 - 12/21/12 05:52 PM (12 years, 3 days ago) |
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That's prolly genetics.
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could this be due to the fact i only got a box fan blowing one way in the grow box or some kinda bug or some thing just trying to cover all my bases i think im going to try and make a vid to just go and cover every thing but ever time i get in there i get black lines from the light for some reason
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#652287 - 12/21/12 06:31 PM (12 years, 3 days ago) |
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Nah, overfertilization is your problem.
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Agreed, that's pretty typical presentation of nute burn.
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: 81renaissance]
#652346 - 12/22/12 11:47 AM (12 years, 3 days ago) |
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is there a all in one (ph ppm ec tds pen) remember i got no ideal what the hell most of that i just wrote means or can i do it all with just one?
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#652358 - 12/22/12 02:04 PM (12 years, 2 days ago) |
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Of course there are, but you only need pH and once of the other 3. They're all measuring the same.
So just get a combo PPM/pH meter.
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well made some ph down 3 teaspoons vinegar to 1 gallon tap water and some ph up 1/4 teaspoon arm and hammer baking soda per gallon reading is shakey jumping around from 4 to 5.9 maybe 6 but the plants dont look shocked did the first three in line for control test to see how it works out O leafs on 7 out of 11 have stated to curl down branches are coming from mid to uper plant still no luck with a good ph meter i think my soil master got a messed up probe or some thing but im going to push on the plant with dieing tips has started to get better really dark green though the dead yellow tips never recovered just the rest of the plant
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#653401 - 01/01/13 06:57 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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so what was it that lead you guys to think it was over fertilized? key flags
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#653405 - 01/01/13 08:01 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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leafs are curling up and down
see how they curl up then fold over
root growth is out standing i got root shooting out the tops and bottoms of the pots i got roots coming out the stock at the bottom close to the dirt but not in it i would say about qaurter inch up from the dirt
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#653454 - 01/02/13 12:47 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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so what was it that lead you guys to think it was over fertilized? key flags
Well the look of your plants for one thing. And this
"8. What kind of fertilizer do you use and what is its NPK ratio? seeding on in to the veg stage green light super bloom 12-55-6,and these iv been jumping around trying to find whats right for my girls veg into bloom miracle-gro liquid cactus plant food 2-7-7,miracle-grow bone meal 6-9-0 and blood meal 12-0-0,ironnite mineral supplement 1-0-1, and limerite for the PH O and some compost tea
9. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything? yes sinc this started i foliar feed with miracle-gro 2-7-7 cactus plant food 20 drops in 33oz water feed to 12 plants not shure if it was tap or rain water"
That's a lot of nutrients to begin with.
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 too much . too fast.
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thank you for your time ill be back sooner or later
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Looks like multiple issues from nutrient deficiency/lock out to over fertilization and maybe a bit of over-watering thrown in. Not sure what to do at this point other than flush for a couple weeks and hope they come around. Next run start with clean, fresh soil and only feed water until they show that they need something. Then use an appropriate, easy-going organic fertilizer like a fish emulsion or kelp-, casting-, or guano-based tea as necessary. Some rock dust and/or azomite in your soil for trace minerals would probably help, too. Good luck.
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: Angus]
#654444 - 01/09/13 01:39 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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ok i was going to start a new thread but i cant figur it out so im just going to keep going here every thing but two plant have died yellow tips then hole leaf turns yellow and tips turn brown and crispy so im going to try some new soil this is the old soil mix i started off with 1 or 1 1/2 big bags of mircal-grow mostur control poting soil 1 big ass block of peat moss 2 bags mircal-grow perlite half bag of vermiculite
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#654445 - 01/09/13 01:46 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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NO MIRACLE-GRO! 
Miracle gro nutes and soils are petroleum-based, chelated, time-release, and all around bad news for cannabis plants. My biggest issue is that the combination of slow release and synthetic chemical nutrients pretty much guarantees that you can't flush the plant enough when it's time to harvest, so you get to smoke whatever nasty shit is still coursing through your buds.
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#654446 - 01/09/13 01:49 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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im trying to take a little of the old soil and the 2 bags perlite and i only have 10 to 15% full bag of peat moss block left o and as of last night i moved the dirt buckets in to a DWC system with just rain water checked it about 15mint ago and most of the water ran out got a leak some were
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#654447 - 01/09/13 01:52 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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its all the walmart has i run water though the perlite when i did use it for shrooms should i do the same with the new stuff befor i use it for soil
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#654448 - 01/09/13 01:53 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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Have you tested the rain water for dissolved solids and pH?
Also, DWC is a hydroponic method...not soil. Maybe I just don't understand your previous post, could you clarify?
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#654449 - 01/09/13 01:53 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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well soilless mix
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#654450 - 01/09/13 01:58 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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well the DWC part is what im useing for water drain it just circulates water more or less no air bubblers yet im working on it ebay take for ever some times
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#654451 - 01/09/13 02:00 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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no on the TDS and the PH again ebay
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#654452 - 01/09/13 02:00 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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Okay, I'm pretty confused by this.
Let's start with what you're trying to accomplish right now:
Are you building a soil, running a DWC setup, or going for a soil-less grow using some soil alternative like coco fiber? These are all distinctly different setups.
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#654453 - 01/09/13 02:08 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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soil ph runs any were from 4.5 to a 7 on a soil master ph meter
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#654454 - 01/09/13 02:15 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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ok im high and i got ADD so im going to call time
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#654455 - 01/09/13 02:39 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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And you need to use proper sentence structure in your posts please. It really makes it hard to read.
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Sorry! I'm back I'm trying to come up with a soil or soilless mix that drains well. I still will hold ph and fertilizer well. So I did a bucket set up to make humidity for the root zone, and to drain the #5 pots so that they're not sitting in water. The #5 pots got the crazy mix I told you about earlier. Potting soil, peat moss, perlite, and vermiculite. Now I would like to take some of my old soil I made up and use it for filler. When I go to make my new mix. I got 2, 8quart bags of perlite, and about the same in peat moss and stirofoam beads. I have made up from old packing stirofoam. I would like to try and use the stirofoam because I've seen it in other soil mixes. I think it might work well as a filler. Also planning on putting some bone meal and maybe blood meal not sure yet.
p.s. Sorry if I had you out of breath on them run on sentences. I do that when I'm doing to many things at one time and high.
Edited by cdmc1984 (01/09/13 06:39 PM)
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#654472 - 01/09/13 07:04 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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I fuck up all kinds of shit on here when in HIGH!
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#654477 - 01/09/13 09:56 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sorry! I'm back I'm trying to come up with a soil or soilless mix that drains well.
Alright, here's step one: make a decision as to whether you are doing a soil grow, or go soil-less
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So I did a bucket set up to make humidity for the root zone, and to drain the #5 pots so that they're not sitting in water.
Describe this setup better, I don't think anybody here knows what you're talking about when you say a bucket setup for humidity. Maybe a picture if possible?
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Now I would like to take some of my old soil I made up and use it for filler when I go to make my new mix. I got 2, 8quart bags of perlite, and about the same in peat moss and stirofoam beads. I have made up from old packing stirofoam. I would like to try and use the stirofoam because I've seen it in other soil mixes. I think it might work well as a filler. Also planning on putting some bone meal and maybe blood meal not sure yet.
What you're describing here is a soil mix, but it doesn't sound like a very good one. First, you're starting with (and I don't mean this as an insult) a TERRIBLE soil mix from your first attempt, then you're proposing the addition of a lot of "filler" that does almost nothing in the way of correcting the issues you have.
Check it out, basic soil mix:
1 part good quality potting soil, 1 part extra chunky perlite, 1 part coconut coir (rinsed), 1 part worm castings.
All relatively cheap, all natural, and good enough to get the babies up and running.
Wanna give it a boost? Well I know you've got manure, so if it's been aged and rinsed, you can go ahead and add it in a ratio of 1/10 of the total soil mix.
DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT NUTRIENTS AT THIS POINT. Get your base mix together, get some babies out of their shells, and then come check in again and we can all talk nutes. Bueno?
Also, don't forget to describe that bucket setup so we can take care of that variable as well.
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: 81renaissance]
#654639 - 01/11/13 01:00 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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Alright, here's step one: make a decision as to whether you are doing a soil grow, or go soil-less
im going to go with soil. i think it might have a better buffer to it. im not sure though because this is just a hobby for me. i work to much to sit on this stuff and watch it all the time. i get to come in and check about every 3 to 4 days week max.
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
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Describe this setup better, I don't think anybody here knows what you're talking about when you say a bucket setup for humidity. Maybe a picture if possible?
no pictures at this point. i will try tonight. ok this is what im going for. my root grow up to the top of the #5 pot making a big ass root ball. i want them to grow down. so im going to bottom feed.
5 gallon bucket with about a inch to a inch and a half of water in the bottom of each bucket. NOT touching the pots just enof water to crate humidity under the pot in the bucket. i have a pump to move the water though the hole system to a reservoir so i can check ppm and ph of water when i need to. water will be heated to some point im sure ill look it up to get rite temp.
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#654641 - 01/11/13 01:27 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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trying to save what i got left. ph is about a 3.5 to a 4.o how much powder lime would i use to get me back on track in my #5 pots they hold almost 5gallons of soil i would say 4 gallons of soil in each pot
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
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This makes no sense at all.
Roots grow away from light. So what you're describing doesn't seem right.
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all the plant i pulled. the root mass was at the top of the soil. no roots at the bottom of the pots on most of them. some would have a small mat of roots at the bottom of the pot but only about 5% was at the bottom of the pot. the other 95% was at the top 3 to 4 inches of soil. i think this was caused by light watering they would get about 20 to 30 fl oz of water every 2 days
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#654651 - 01/11/13 02:39 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well then all you have to do is give them a thorough saturating when you water them. You're over complicating this....
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im preparing to go over to a recirculating DWC system but now im just useing it for drainage to keep water out my grow space and i dont have any of the hydroponic fertilizer, neuts, hydroxin rocks, or liquid ph up and down.
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#654660 - 01/11/13 03:43 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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thank you for your time ill try to get a pic or 2 to help
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
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got my camera back ill be uploading pics tonight for any one who whats to see
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
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this sucks my picks wont up load. i clear the cookies check to make sure they were jpeg try. again tomorrow!!!
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#654824 - 01/12/13 04:53 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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I want to see something
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Ok soil PH problem with the original plants. Ph is at a 4.2 I keep adding gardening lime, 2 tablespoons a day. I check it everyday before I give anymore. I mix it into the top 2 inches of soil, will the peat moss buffer of counteract the lime in anyway.
Here is a complete list of things that I have added to the soil to make it what it is now.
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60% peat moss
20% perlite
20% potting soil
add ins used to adjust ph all????
baking soda
vinegar
hydorgen peroxide
gardening lime
iron nite
lime rite
Not all of these were used at the same time. Also take in mind I burned them with fertlizer.
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#655089 - 01/15/13 05:23 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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wow if they survive in all that gunk ill be surprised. i use most of those ingredients to grow mushrooms  a shroom grow in the soil of a pot plant? can it be possible?? *_* TELL ME PLEASE NOW
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: Maestro]
#655106 - 01/15/13 07:11 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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i did end up with some spores in the soil. that crossed over from a air line and the perlite. thought it might happen only when the humidity gose up to 80% or 85%they grew. panama cub very nice biggest plant to out the same pot stock was 1-1/4in plant was was over 5 foot with a foot of pot
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
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i think the ph problem is caused from compacted soil
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
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maybe also the vinegar, baking soda and H2O2?
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: Maestro]
#655118 - 01/15/13 08:04 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah, vinegar is an acid, was your soil too basic at some point?
Also, peat moss is HIGHLY acidic, and it makes up the majority of your mix, I would bet that's your culprit.
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: 81renaissance]
#655152 - 01/16/13 08:50 AM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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what is up with the login i got to log in and its like the page gets droped and its only growery then when i try and upload pics now i get this cuben army looking guy with the words saying everying is ok well its not ok little army dude i want to up load me some dam pics
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
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Prolly just doing some work on the site. If you have problems post it in this forum
http://www.growery.org/forums/postlist.php/Board/8
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#655362 - 01/17/13 02:35 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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i'm sorry i don't know what happen. first it would not upload now it want to upload the hole file so this is what i ended up with. now there here but not under my pics file when i sign in.
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
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Whoa.
Those are some fucked up plants.
Did you use hydrated lime?
I don't even know if those are salvageable...looks like they've been burned, overwatered, pH fucked, the humidity is probably too high due to the standing water in the grow space, and what is that "reservoir" thing you have set up with all the sludge in the bottom?
The plant on the left side of most of the pictures looks like it could survive, but you need to flush all the salts out of it (all of those "pH adjusters" are creating a massive salt build-up in your soil), and once flushed, you'll need to completely replace almost all the nutes you're currently using: they're killing your plants.
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: 81renaissance]
#655366 - 01/17/13 03:38 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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more then half of them did die. the reservoir thing just pumps water out to keep to much from sitting in the bottom of the buckets. no drip set up yet. the humidity levels stay around 40% to 60% most the time some times ill get a spike. but i know when i do because i get shrooms that grow. wen or lose im getting some thing out of it just not what i want. so had it with the shrooms. im just giving them away at this point. grew them for almost 2 years. thank to shroomery good shit on there part. lots of help could of never got as far as i did with that if it was not for the great team there and RR
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#655367 - 01/17/13 03:49 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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Did you use hydrated lime?
not sure i know i used lime rite and gardening lime. most of the first soil mix was peat moss and compost tea. holey crap the acid factor was just to high to control for me with as little time i have to spare to the grow. im always working. im just so tiered of paying 25 to 30 a G for crap nothing like what i get when im home in FL
compost tea was made up from citrus bananas breads some meat egg shells leafs roots tea bags coffee grounds just any thing i thought would just rot or break down hell the flys loved it the plant not so much.
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#655369 - 01/17/13 04:12 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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is it ok with every one that i run through this thread and delete some of it to shorten it up?
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#655370 - 01/17/13 05:03 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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You never want animal protein in your compost, and you want it composted BEFORE you make it into a tea.
Frankly, this grow is a bit of a shit-show. You need to finish it in whatever way you choose to finish it, and then tear it the fuck down and pretty much create a completely new setup.
Keep. it. simple. You are vastly overcomplicating a relatively simple process.
Ditch all that hose and the pumps and get down to just soil in buckets.
Go back a page in this thread and look at the soil recipe I put up for you.
Once you've managed a basic soil grow, and used legitimate nutrients, you can start experimenting with technique.
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: 81renaissance]
#655382 - 01/17/13 07:57 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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I would transplant to soil and reveg for a month or so. That's a Lot of nodes.
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: Maestro]
#655400 - 01/17/13 10:25 PM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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i did the soil mix just ant got to put it into some pots yet. but as fare as nuts go. i cant order stuff like that off the internet or even buy stuff around here like that. NO HYDRO supply's they poke holes in every package that comes though here. the feds have been here for the last 7 month and the cops are pissed the fuck off. because they said the feds are not going any were. i live in pill and meth valley the cops are crooked here. so with all this said this is why i make and take what is readily available. for me to get some thing and still stay some what under the radar i have to buy crap off the shelf from wal-mart, lowes and ace.
PS i do respect what you guys say i just like to experimenter some times
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
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Quote:
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i did the soil mix just ant got to put it into some pots yet. but as fare as nuts go. i cant order stuff like that off the internet or even buy stuff around here like that. NO HYDRO supply's they poke holes in every package that comes though here. the feds have been here for the last 7 month and the cops are pissed the fuck off. because they said the feds are not going any were. i live in pill and meth valley the cops are crooked here. so with all this said this is why i make and take what is readily available. for me to get some thing and still stay some what under the radar i have to buy crap off the shelf from wal-mart, lowes and ace.
PS i do respect what you guys say i just like to experimenter some times
You must live in my neighborhood ?
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#655417 - 01/18/13 05:05 AM (11 years, 11 months ago) |
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My Ace has an indoor gardening section and carries fox farm. Maybe yours doesn't but I bet you could order it and pick it up in store.
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: NameInUse]
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They sell kellogs potting mix I heard good thing about it . At lowes
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ill check that stuff out thank guys for understanding
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#655462 - 01/18/13 03:02 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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They poke holes in everything?
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Yeah, I don't know how remote it is where you live, but actual gardening supply stores are a MUCH better bet than the big box stores in terms of quality of products offered.
Look around for a more specialized store, especially one that's locally owned.
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: 81renaissance]
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I'm sure there's a nursery or something near you man. They's have quality soil mixes. No matter how small a town you live in there's a way to get decent soil.
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I concur, AND you can buy non-petroleum based nutrients and additives that are not cannabis specific. There's no reason for anybody to raise an eyebrow at you buying high quality gardening supplements and supplies. 
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they poke holes in any box's or packages that come though the mail. UPS USPS FEDEX DHL. thank god i use a fake name credit card the works. i know alot off ppl here that order there weed straight from California i dont know how they do it. well i think i do but i dont really care ya know. that there shit.
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: 81renaissance]
#655502 - 01/18/13 08:38 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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the fire department tells you. if your house catches fire get every one out and grab the marshmallow. no shit that the truth. the fire department here is for nothing realy except keeping the woods from burning down. i wrecked a 4 wheeler one time dislocated my shoulder and they life flighted me out. what the hell
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#655503 - 01/18/13 08:39 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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are there ferts with no or low salts?
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
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seen this on roll it up. what do you guys think?
GH PH DOWN is made from phosphoric acid, which makes your reservoir pump and hoses slimy, especially during flowering. When the phosphoric acid hits the P saturated solution, a plume of phosphorus hits the water and the solution cant hold it all, some of it changes form to a solid and it becomes slime that sticks to everything it touches. I use sulfuric acid and I get no slime at all, all I have to do is rinse out my system once a week, almost no scrubbing at all.
You can get sulfuric acid at any auto parts store, just ask for battery acid. Cost is anywhere from $3.99 - $5.99 per liter, very cheap. You have to ask for it, they keep it behind the counter. Wear rubber gloves and goggles while handling it. For weaker strength, use 1/3 of a cup per gallon. For normal strength use about a half cup per gallon. Make sure you use RO water or distilled water. You dont want the chlorine from your tap water interacting with the sulfuric acid. A $3.99 container of battery acid will make about 8 or 10 gallons of PH Down.
For PH UP use 100% pure lye. One level tablespoon makes a gallon, which lasts years. Lifetime supply for under 5$.
Read the ingredients on the lye to make sure it is PURE sodium hydroxide or pure Lye in crystal form. To make the PH UP, fill a gallon container 3/4 with RO or distilled water and drop one tablespoon of lye crystals in, then top off with the rest of the water. Wear rubber gloves and goggles. I will never ever have to pay 25$ per gallon for UP or DOWN again!!!
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: 81renaissance]
#655506 - 01/18/13 08:48 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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non-petroleum based nutrients and additives? are we saying some nuts and ferts have oil in them? whats with nonsuflphured molasses i tryed it and it worked good. but why?
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#655519 - 01/18/13 09:53 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm not sure about trade rules around here, but you can probably find someone online to trade with. They can just put the nutes in soda bottles of appropriate color...or something. It's not illegal or anything.
Hell, you can most likely negotiate something with an eBay seller. There's so much competition there now that they've become flexible. Licorice flexible.
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: Maestro]
#655538 - 01/19/13 09:33 AM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ok cdmc, this is your intervention.
Just for right now, stop looking at alternative and experimental techniques for your grow.
You don't understand the basics yet, so introducing all these things that you really don't understand is futile at best, and dangerous at worst.
If you have experience handling and diluting strong acids and bases, then sure, go ahead and use sulfuric acid and lye, but if you don't know if you should add water to an acid or vice versa, or why it's hazardous to your health to use tap water with battery acid, or that if you use the battery acid to bring pH down and then have to use NaOH to bring it back up that you're creating sodium sulfate, and if you don't know how that affects your soil, I recommend what I've recommended before.
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: 81renaissance]
#655652 - 01/19/13 10:49 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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ok well got a ppm and ph meter to day the ph run off is 6.9 and the ppm is 661 what this means idk.
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#655676 - 01/20/13 08:38 AM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm so confused on your system that I have no fucking clue where your ph should be...
If you're growing in dirt, you're just a tad high for my taste (I shoot for a 6.5-6.7) but not awful; if this is a hydro grow, you are wayyyyy too alkaline. When I run hydro, I maintain around 5.8.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't a full point difference equal 10x the acidity in either direction, i.e. 7.0 is 10x as alkaline as 6.0?
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#655687 - 01/20/13 11:39 AM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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its cool. its a soil system i use the buckets for run off. so when i have to flush the soil out. nothing stays in the buckets. all the water is pumped out after the flushing.
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: NameInUse]
#655689 - 01/20/13 11:44 AM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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on the 10x thing i would have to say yes here is a chart i found
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#655808 - 01/21/13 02:32 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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is there one fertilizer that i can just use straight thought the hole grow???
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#655812 - 01/21/13 02:49 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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nope
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Maybe Lucas formula? Op you should search it
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: Maestro]
#655828 - 01/21/13 06:01 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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i know this is random but most my shit is anyways. so im getting high and my dog wont go away every time i hit the bong dude comes up and sticks his noise to my lips and the bong. am i wrong to think my dog wants to get high.
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#655831 - 01/21/13 06:05 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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My cat does the same thing, the wife and I get him stoned as fuck on a regular basis.
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: Maestro]
#655833 - 01/21/13 06:09 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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i time cars with my pointer finger. Lucas formula is oil! unless you got some kinda link?
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#655834 - 01/21/13 06:15 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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lol can you teach me that
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#655835 - 01/21/13 06:15 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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makes me a little nervous some times when i first met the animal he bit me in the face we are cool now we have come to a understanding.
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#655836 - 01/21/13 06:17 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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whats that?
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#655840 - 01/21/13 06:33 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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i time cars with my pointer finger. Lucas formula is oil! unless you got some kinda link?
Sure here's one.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=124487
But I can't seem to find the original schedule/guide. It only used GH bloom for veg and flower
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warning all models vary you should just get the book for your vehicle type and model!!! but ya just gut the motor down until you can get to the bottom shaft/crank shaft. with the biggest bolt to the front of the engine. turn it with a socket and breaker bar until (number one) comes to the top of the piston don't go past ur finger. (number one) is the first spark plug to detonate also know as (firing order). dont go past the timing mark on your harmonic balancer 0% is key
ps. i blazzed have some auto gasket glue ready for when you go to put it back together
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just the fact the dog bit me in the face i kick his ass now he loves me but i still just dont like the dog up in my face wonder if he would hit the bong him self or just try and drink my water
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: Maestro]
#655844 - 01/21/13 06:56 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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interesting but its not a one in all
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#655850 - 01/21/13 07:51 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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"Using GH Flora 3-part liquid nutes:
0ml of Grow, 8ml of Micro and 16ml of Bloom per gallon of RO.
0-8-16
Or
Using GH FloraNova Bloom One-part liquid nutrient:
8ml per gallon of RO
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One of the options is
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: Maestro]
#655860 - 01/21/13 09:03 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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Maestro, How you like them and were can I get it?
Edited by budgrowerwannabe (01/21/13 09:04 PM)
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new question? i got this old soil i don't want to just throw out. but i think i might have to. i get the soils ph to come back up to 7.5 when i add a cup of lime to it every day. the next day ph is back to 4.3 to 4.2 should i use pellet lime or maybe soak the soil in a ph solution of 6.5 to 7.0 or will that ph just drain off with the water? im lost
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#655934 - 01/22/13 12:04 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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I would just start a compost and put it all there.
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I thought we had already done a good job of enumerating the reasons why your old soil mix was roughly the equivalent of human shit in a bucket...
Throw it out. Refer back to this.
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thats were half of it already is so i guess the rest will go in there to!
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: 81renaissance]
#655940 - 01/22/13 12:34 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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i reuse every thing i don't truly trow any thing out. sorry im a hippy! but i did make your soil mix.
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#655941 - 01/22/13 12:37 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm with you, and I recycle my (100% organic) soil mix after every grow, but the content that was in your original soil is going to create major problems if you try to reuse it.
You could cut it 50/50 with compost/light potting soil and use it for house plants though.
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: 81renaissance]
#655944 - 01/22/13 12:41 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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morning glorys is what i will reuse the old soil for it just some thing in there that wont let the ph come back up were it needs to be at probably all that fucking vinegar
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#655946 - 01/22/13 12:46 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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any thing here on growery on how to make a home made bud trimmer iv seen them on the net they are just a fan and a guard
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#655947 - 01/22/13 12:50 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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That's part of it, but I told you before about the peat moss...it's bottoming out your pH, and unless you get a shit-ton more organic material in there, it will always be too low.
Also, peat moss is not sustainable, so it's a poor choice ecologically (which we hippies care about).
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: 81renaissance]
#655992 - 01/22/13 09:02 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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did not know that. learn some thing new every day.
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#656037 - 01/23/13 04:07 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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what do you guys think about Aquaponics? i seen it on my hunt for a way to grow with hydro yet trying to keep it simple. whats more simple then some gold fish.
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#656039 - 01/23/13 04:14 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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BlueBerry_Swisher said:I want French fries. No, I want a penis French. Thank you. I'm so excited. I can not contain myself. Now I eat chocolate. It is so good. I'm trying to rub it all over myself. And then lick. Now I need a hot shower. The end.
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: 81renaissance]
#656050 - 01/23/13 06:21 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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Search Hempy bucket.
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: Maestro]
#656088 - 01/23/13 09:55 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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i looked at the Hempy bucket it dont really sound like what i was talking about. interesting though!! but you still have to use the three part n-p-k plus ph and tds. an a possible micro nuts add in. let me see if i can link what im talking about to this site.
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#656089 - 01/23/13 09:59 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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its a bad video i seen better today this is just what i found iin like 3 secs
Edited by cdmc1984 (01/23/13 10:01 PM)
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#656092 - 01/23/13 10:16 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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they left out the defuser which take out the ammonia that the fish pee and poop out leaving just plane nutrient rich water. i think.
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#656139 - 01/24/13 08:43 AM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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Mhm yeah. Aquaponics look soo much less complicated then a bucket of verm with a hole on the bottom...
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: Maestro]
#656156 - 01/24/13 11:51 AM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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feel free to correct me if im wrong.
i see what your saying about Hempy bucket it dose look simple but you still need the three part N-P-K plus micro nuts in most cases. the Aquaponics you just feed your fish and check ph every now and then. which is better for the environment. from what i hear fertilizers that gets in to are water ways turn in to mercury later on as they move to the ocean.
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#656170 - 01/24/13 01:39 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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need some info guys. i use the water glass method to germ my seed. now if i dont get a white taproot should i still put them in a jiffy pellet or just dont wast my time with them seed that dont show a taproot.
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#656172 - 01/24/13 01:44 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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Npk nutrients = all nutrients except micro
Im trying to make sense of what you're saying but idk
Can you elaborate on the nutes turning into mercury o.O
Give those seeds more time. Wrap em in a wet towel maybe
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: Maestro]
#656175 - 01/24/13 02:20 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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this guy knows more then i do if keep on talking i just know im going to stick my foot in my mouth so here is a link to ehow.com
http://www.ehow.com/info_7962176_fertilizers-pollution.html
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#656185 - 01/24/13 04:15 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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"Mercury in fertilizers results during the manufacturing process from the addition of sulfuric acid."
We have no way to control how factories dump their waste. It's not the actual nutrients that turn to mercury
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#656203 - 01/24/13 08:33 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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need some info guys. i use the water glass method to germ my seed. now if i dont get a white taproot should i still put them in a jiffy pellet or just dont wast my time with them seed that dont show a taproot.
I only soak my seeds in water for 24 hours before putting them in their sprouting medium. I never see taproot before the transfer and I have at least a 95% germination rate.
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: 81renaissance]
#656254 - 01/25/13 11:14 AM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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o well that great i probably drowned them then. well i got on to do a soil up date. ph probe shows that i got a ph of 3.5 with the soil master and the run off shows a ph of 7.1 to 7.2 now my tap water here runs at a 7.7 to a 7.6 so dose this mean that my soil master ph probe has some thing wrong with it or what?
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#656290 - 01/25/13 04:08 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yup....
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Umm, in the beginning of the.post I saw some one say that pee is full of bacteria... Well from what I learned in med classes is the opposite, ur urinary system is supposed to be bacteria/virus free, if not then u have a UTI... Unless ur leaving ur urin out for days, then the nitrates break down and so forth creating an environment that will then breed bacteria. Ph in urin is also lower than you would think aswell, roughly round 5-6 I believe; I could be wrong but urinalysis was not my specitality...
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: lostinbq]
#658122 - 02/09/13 12:08 AM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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I don't know who claimed that, but you are right. They're should not be bacteria in you're urine, unless you have a UTI.
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The problem with urine isn't that it's pathogenic, it's that it contains urea which degrades to ammonia in less than 24 hours, and has too much ammonia based nitrogen. Ammonia based nitrogen is essentially free N and it's typically too hot for plants.
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BlueBerry_Swisher said:I want French fries. No, I want a penis French. Thank you. I'm so excited. I can not contain myself. Now I eat chocolate. It is so good. I'm trying to rub it all over myself. And then lick. Now I need a hot shower. The end.
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: 81renaissance]
#658294 - 02/09/13 09:10 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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cos it is accessed first right?
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: lostinbq]
#658597 - 02/11/13 11:51 AM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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Right, urine is filtered of bacteria. Virii are another matter.
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: Javadog]
#658665 - 02/11/13 06:18 PM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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What? It's not a virus either, it's simply the chemical rxn that takes place as urea degrades to ammonia.
I would hope that someone with herpes would know better than to piss on his/her plant.
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BlueBerry_Swisher said:I want French fries. No, I want a penis French. Thank you. I'm so excited. I can not contain myself. Now I eat chocolate. It is so good. I'm trying to rub it all over myself. And then lick. Now I need a hot shower. The end.
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: 81renaissance]
#658708 - 02/12/13 02:02 AM (11 years, 10 months ago) |
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Not that herpes would spread to your plant. 
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would a 1000wat hps turn your plants yellow this is a new project and im dealing with tomato's now in a aquponic set I built my self I have about 10 goldfish in a 10 to 15 gallon reserve my ph is about a 7.4 and the only plant turning yellow are the ones under the light all one plant
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#669526 - 05/07/13 10:28 AM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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No it would not. Your pH is way too high, needs to be 5.8 or so.
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I was told there is nothing I could do about my ph it rides hard at 7.9 to 8.0 I was told it is my water. the guy at the pet store said we had a ash clouds from the mines come though the city here about a year ago. but I thought that would make acid rain but I don't know all I know is im fighting fucked up ph readings I changed the rock out my beds and I flush my reservoir every time it rains
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#671404 - 05/18/13 12:59 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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Add more ph down?
I'm definitely missing something here. This is an indoor grow right?
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#671427 - 05/18/13 02:09 PM (11 years, 7 months ago) |
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I was told there is nothing I could do about my ph it rides hard at 7.9 to 8.0 I was told it is my water. the guy at the pet store said we had a ash clouds from the mines come though the city here about a year ago. but I thought that would make acid rain but I don't know all I know is im fighting fucked up ph readings I changed the rock out my beds and I flush my reservoir every time it rains
Yeah, this doesn't make since. Are you on well water? Or city water? If you are on city water, you should ask the water department for a breakdown of your water. If you are on a well, then it raining will not effect your tap right off the bat. It will take time to for it to filter down to the ground table, and who know's what's going on in the ground to change it.
Now the story of the ash cloud sounds dubious.
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it was a indoor grow. I was using rain water from a rain barrel. I had 14 fish in a 15 gallon reservoir. I used river rock for my medium pump kick on ever 15 minutes for 15minutes lighting 1000watt hps at 12/12 toped my tank off every 5 to 7 days changed water every two weeks gold fish end up with red lips and gills all die but 2. for the ash cloud we got a new school and a new hospital out of that well so im told.
I think im going to try just ordering one of them hydroponic fertilizer kits I see on google all the time any suggestions on a cheep but working kit iv been at fox farm tiger kit and General Hydroponics flor series
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
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I was just looking though all the chems we got and found that some ass hole got ph down for a fucking pool sodium bisulfate from aqua chem balance+protect I almost want to bet money there is chlorine of some kind in this stuff
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#674390 - 06/13/13 02:03 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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6.8 when all the fish died off
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#674439 - 06/13/13 08:30 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Sorry to hear about that.
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cdmc1984
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: Javadog]
#674497 - 06/14/13 12:08 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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its cool we are breaking down today. thank you for caring! but what im really trying to get is a straight answer on a cheap yet effective hydroponic fertilizer for my next set up? I have 3 flood and drain tables and 9 DWC buckets 1 1000w hps and 10 t12 with a blue spectrum all are going in to a 6x6 grow tent. im looking at about 1400watts in lighting and another 80 to 150 watts with fans pumps. but like I said im looking for a simple cheap and effective nut package. my spending limit is about 150 give or take 50 bucks.
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#674498 - 06/14/13 12:17 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'd recommend Botanicare Pure Blend Pro.
Easy to use and every forgiving.
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: Stoneth]
#674534 - 06/14/13 04:57 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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are there any nut deficiencies and is it a 1 in all 2 part or 3 part mix?
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#674535 - 06/14/13 05:33 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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2 part. But, they have a lot of additives you can choose from as well.
Deficiencies?? Like, in the nutrients??
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cdmc1984
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ya like I hear a lot of people bitching about cal-mag and other thing not shur if it the case with Botanicare. is there a list of ingredients to look for what will my girls need to reach there full potential I know the npk but that it. there has to be a cheat sheet some were for ppl like me
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#674548 - 06/14/13 07:57 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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http://www.marijuanapassion.com/forum/showthread.php?t=54233
this link has help me out a lot I keep it as a wall paper on the work shop laptop
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#674560 - 06/14/13 10:47 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
cdmc1984 said:
are there any nut deficiencies and is it a 1 in all 2 part or 3 part mix?
This would get you off to a great start.
Everything you need to get a awesome harvest in one kit.
http://www.rvfgardensupply.com/cgi/display.cgi?item_num=718495
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#674561 - 06/14/13 10:52 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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What do you mean bitching about calmag? Like just that they need to use it?
I supplement with calmag just to make sure that I never run into problems. And its fairly cheap. Just get a small container of it and add 1-2 mls per gallon with every other feeding. Trying to do things as cheap as possible isn't always the best idea.
You could always just use the basic GH triple pack if you wanna go cheap
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cdmc1984
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I was just use the calcium and magnesium deficiencies as example
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#674740 - 06/16/13 10:42 AM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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I hope the chart helps out others. but its probably already on here you guys are pretty thorough.
Edited by cdmc1984 (06/16/13 10:43 AM)
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#674870 - 06/16/13 09:21 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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I already have it, but appreciate your sharing it.
JD
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: Javadog]
#674872 - 06/16/13 09:35 PM (11 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have it now too Thanks!!
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need a little help I found this suff at my locale grocery store. two say hydroponic use. they are all 3 from Earth&Ocean systems. first up is EOS N-R-G
total Nitrogen (N).........1.0%
.50%ammoniacal Nitrogen
.50% Nitrate Nitrogen
Available Phosphate (P2O5)..........13.0%
Suloble Potash (K2O)........8.0%
Derived from Ammonium, polyphosphate, monopotassium phosphate, potassium nitrate.
Add 1 teaspoon per quart of tap water.
I tested a gallon of tap water with a test strip and this is my tap 0 nitrate 0 nitrite 120 on hardness alkalinity buffering capacity 80 to120 ph 8.0 after n-r-g it ran 80 to 200 on nitrate 0.5 for nitrite hardness down to 50 buffering stayed at 80 to 120 ph dropped to 6.4 but im betting the ph is lower then that ph meter is packed up
ROOT-CHARGE
total nitrogen (N)........1.0%
0.17%ammoniacal nitrogen
0.31%nitrate nitrogen
0.53% urea nitrogen
derived from potassium nitrate,phosphoric acid, monopotassium phosphate, ammonium polyphosphate,urea, potassium hydroxide
available phosphate(P2O5)......2.0%
soluble potash (K2O).........1.0%
Derived from potassium nitrate, urea ammonium nitrate solution, phosphoric acid, potassium phosphate.
no listing of instruction on bottle for hydroponics
veggie vigor
(N).......3.0%
2.7% ammoniacal ninitrgen
0.3% urea nitrogen
aviailable phosphate (P2O5)....13.0%
soluble potash (K2O)........3.0%
derived from potassium nitrate, phosphoric acid, monopotassium phosphate, ammonium polyphosphate, urea, potassium hydroxide
non-plant food inredients: Organic Acids
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#676329 - 06/27/13 05:17 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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What exactly is the question?
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is veggie vigor ok for hydroponic use? if so what kind of applaction would be best for it DWC flood and drain ect.? I called the 1-800 number on the bottle and the girl sounded cute but did not know a thing about there own product.
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#676362 - 06/27/13 12:04 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sorry man, I can't find any information on that product. It's not listed on their wesbite.
What made you doubt the lady on the phone?
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she said she didn't know any thing about the products they sell she was just a receptionist then gave me some e-mail address of some sells rep that was over my state and he still didn't reply back
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#676375 - 06/27/13 03:09 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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I got ph meter ppm meter and fish tank test strips the one I test with earlier the eos n-r-g. what can I look for that would indicate it would be toxic to my plant?
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#676377 - 06/27/13 03:21 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well if the company is selling, it's probably not toxic man.
If they're selling it, then they designed it for plants. What would make you think it would be toxic?
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it has no instruction for hydroponics on the veggie vigor
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#676391 - 06/27/13 04:42 PM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well that wouldn't mean that it would be to toxic. It means that it wasn't designed for hydro.
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so you think it (could) be safe for hydro?
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Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#676474 - 06/28/13 11:06 AM (11 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's been a few years since I've been in hydro, but I recall most liquid nutrients can be used in hydro, regardless of whether the package says it is designed for it or not.
Do a google on that product and see if you get any reviews. Call the company again, ask for the numbers of their reps, they're probably too busy to answer emails.
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 Re: the journal of my yellow leafs [Re: cdmc1984]
#828603 - 09/16/17 02:50 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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It was too much water I would now say root rot
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