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 Hawksresurrection
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 Re: First DWC bagseed 400w MH/HPS (Day 68/Flowering Day 21)  [Re: viper33802]
#626510 - 06/07/12 06:37 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Are you using any additives? What's the water temp?
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
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 viper33802
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Re: First DWC bagseed 400w MH/HPS (Day 68/Flowering Day 21) [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#626517 - 06/07/12 07:10 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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no additives. 72-78F
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: First DWC bagseed 400w MH/HPS (Day 68/Flowering Day 21) [Re: viper33802]
#626520 - 06/07/12 07:18 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'd throw some h2o2 in there just to be careful. It's not uncommon for them to not stay perfectly white throughout the grow.
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
-niteowl
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viper33802
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Re: First DWC bagseed 400w MH/HPS (Day 68/Flowering Day 21) [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#626522 - 06/07/12 07:19 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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any idea or gauge on how much to add?
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: First DWC bagseed 400w MH/HPS (Day 68/Flowering Day 21) [Re: viper33802]
#626528 - 06/07/12 07:47 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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10 mls per gallon
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
-niteowl
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viper33802
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Re: First DWC bagseed 400w MH/HPS (Day 68/Flowering Day 21) [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#626602 - 06/08/12 02:09 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
hawksapprentice said:
10 mls per gallon
Would that be 35% H2O2 or normal OTC 3%? I am also looking for a better way to keep the nutes cooler. I am getting a better exhaust fan this weekend. Any other suggestions?
Edited by viper33802 (06/08/12 02:10 PM)
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: First DWC bagseed 400w MH/HPS (Day 68/Flowering Day 21) [Re: viper33802]
#626614 - 06/08/12 03:30 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Make a circulating system and have a nice large reservoir. This will keep your pH and PPM in balance longer and help keep the temps down.
For a temp fix you can freeze water in a bottle and stick it in the bucket.
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
-niteowl
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: First DWC bagseed 400w MH/HPS (Day 68/Flowering Day 21) [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#626615 - 06/08/12 03:30 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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35 percent.
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
-niteowl
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viper33802
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Re: First DWC bagseed 400w MH/HPS (Day 68/Flowering Day 21) [Re: viper33802]
#626632 - 06/08/12 05:33 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
viper33802 said:
 
In these pics I posted the yesterday does it look like I have a Phosphorus problem? That is what it looks like to me but I am uncertain. If so, should I get some Botanicare Hydroplex? The reason I mention that brand is cause that is what I am using for nutes. I am open to other brands though.
P.S. hawksapprentice, Thanks for all of your assistance so far.
Edited by viper33802 (06/08/12 05:34 PM)
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: First DWC bagseed 400w MH/HPS (Day 68/Flowering Day 21) [Re: viper33802]
#626634 - 06/08/12 05:44 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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I would use a PK boost like kool bloom or PK 13/14
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
-niteowl
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viper33802
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First DWC bagseed 400w MH/HPS (Day 71/Flowering Day 24) [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#626960 - 06/11/12 07:00 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just a quick update for you guys. After work on saturday I found a local hydroponics store (60 miles away) and went by to get a PK booster. I did end up getting Hydroplex. I am now mixing 25ml Pure Blend Pro Bloom & 6ml Hydroplex per gallon. Well... Sunday I only lost 1 leaf. And now this morning I only lost 1 more. This is already much better than the few (6-10) that I was loosing per day. It looks like it is that is what she needed.
I will post up pics later
Edited by viper33802 (06/11/12 09:04 AM)
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Tim
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Re: First DWC system * UPDATE* [Re: viper33802]
#626994 - 06/11/12 10:54 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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This is awesome. Keep it up.
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viper33802
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First DWC bagseed 400w MH/HPS (Day 72/Flowering Day 25) [Re: viper33802]
#627110 - 06/12/12 06:28 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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OK well the pictures are a day late but here you go:
   
Still looking better since I started having the Hydroplex. I have also added a better exhaust system to help lower the room temps.
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Pilze
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Re: First DWC bagseed 400w MH/HPS (Day 72/Flowering Day 25) [Re: viper33802]
#627126 - 06/12/12 07:38 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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looks like a cal/mag def I THINK. whats up with the leafs curling down?
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viper33802
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Re: First DWC bagseed 400w MH/HPS (Day 72/Flowering Day 25) [Re: Pilze]
#627215 - 06/12/12 01:20 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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from what I can tell this is the result of a potassium and/or phosphorus problem that happened before I got the PK booster. I do not think it is a calcium or magnesium problem.
Calcium (Ca):
-Affects new growth first --My problem started with older leaves
-Terminal buds and root tips die back
-Necrotic patches on margins and near leaf base
Magnesium (Mg):
-Commonly deficient in Cannabis
-Yellowing of lower leaves progressing upwards with severity
-Interveinal yellowing
-Rust brown patches on leaf margins, tips and between veins
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It to me looks like a potasium problem
Potassium (K):
-Chlorosis moves upwards from older leaves rapidly progressing to necrotic lesions most visible on margins and tips --seems like what is going on
-Branches easily broken--have not had that issue
-Stems may stretch--i do seem to have a decent bit of stretching
-Similar to iron deficiency except for curled margins and tips
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here is a pic from a few days ago of the damage
This problem started from the older bottom leaves. It is not spreading any further since I started the additive. Thanks for the input though. Does anyone else have a say on the matter?
Also, If I am right and it was potassium and/or phosphorus but is now corected, would I see an improvement in damaged leaves or would they just not get worse?
Edited by viper33802 (06/12/12 01:51 PM)
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Pilze
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Re: First DWC bagseed 400w MH/HPS (Day 72/Flowering Day 25) [Re: viper33802]
#627218 - 06/12/12 01:24 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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idk why i thought magnesium.
youre probably right since you have a better view of the plant than i do. the way that leaf blade died almost looks like phosphorus. but im probably wrong.
Edited by Pilze (06/12/12 01:28 PM)
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viper33802
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Re: First DWC bagseed 400w MH/HPS (Day 72/Flowering Day 25) [Re: Pilze]
#627229 - 06/12/12 01:56 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Pilze said:
idk why i thought magnesium.
youre probably right since you have a better view of the plant than i do. the way that leaf blade died almost looks like phosphorus. but im probably wrong.
It is probably phosphorus you are right. Why was I thinking potassium? I know, cause I am at work and trying to multi-task in too many directions.
Phosphorus (P):
-Slow stunted growth
-stem turns reddish purple starting at the leaves
-Dark brown/purple/black necrotic patches appear on older leaves radiating from the veins
-Tips turn brown and curl downwards
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I have all of these except the stunted growth.
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Pilze
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Re: First DWC bagseed 400w MH/HPS (Day 72/Flowering Day 25) [Re: viper33802]
#627233 - 06/12/12 02:01 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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i had that in my tnt kush, stunted the shit out of it compared to the doctor lol. get em what they need! im sure theyll be fine. they look good. give it a week and youll see a big difference.
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: First DWC bagseed 400w MH/HPS (Day 72/Flowering Day 25) [Re: Pilze]
#627272 - 06/12/12 03:35 PM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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Leaves are hooked because of heat stress most likely.
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
-niteowl
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viper33802
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First DWC bagseed 400w MH/HPS (Day 73/Flowering Day 26) [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#627375 - 06/13/12 05:12 AM (12 years, 5 months ago) |
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thanks once again for the input hawk. I ran an a/c duct into the grow area last night to assist with heat. I also ran an exhaust into the attic over the weekend.
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