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Are these buds ready now?
    #613221 - 03/18/12 08:13 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

(keeep in mind I intend to give it 48 hours of dark before harvest)






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Re: Are these buds ready now? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #613235 - 03/18/12 08:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Look kinda small to be ready.  How many weeks in are you?  Are the trichomes turning?




It's a very small plant in a 5 inch pot. It's been outdoors on around 12/12 since germination so I can't say, but its been about 5 & 1/2 weeks since I first saw the pistils come out... so 6 & 1/2 weeks in? what do you mean by turning?

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And dude, I've already tried the 2 days of no light.  It doesn't do anything, really a waste of time.




Really? I read it on the cervantes guide but it doesn't make sense why it should work anyway, how dafuck do 48 hours of darkness happen in nature. Thanks man!

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Re: Are these buds ready now? [Re: RasJeph]
    #613326 - 03/19/12 11:19 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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RasJeph said: letting it go 2 more days under the lights is going to do a hell of a lot more for it than 2 days in the dark!  :2cents:





My sentiments exactly! thanks guys! What I will do is give it one hour more hour of dark (the sun sets at about 6 and it goes into the darkness box at 7, so just put it in at 6 from now on, no light time lost anyway) or will that increase chances of herminess?

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This has got to be ready now !!!!!!!! [Re: RasJeph]
    #613364 - 03/19/12 03:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

This has got to be ready! I see plenty of amber trichs! no?

If and when I harvest would it be best to harvest the top bit and leave the rest for a few more days? I want absolute peak THC but I don't know if being such a small plant changes anything? Thanks!!!
















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Re: Are these buds ready now? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #613368 - 03/19/12 04:17 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I see a few that look like they might be turning, but with out a magnifying device of some sort you can't tell




what do you mean by turning? turning amber? and can't you see the little amber trichs on the pics, or is there a need for more of a close up to determine something? what is one supposed to look at? I might be able to get one by tomorrow, thanks

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Re: Are these buds ready now? [Re: RasJeph]
    #613374 - 03/19/12 05:29 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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The 7th picture down in that post looks pretty good to go to me. But oddly enough, the others don't so much. Maybe its a trick of the lighting?




Agreed, I think it's because that's the top of the plant, maybe the rest is not quite ready... that's why I'm asking about harvest one bit first and then the rest?

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Re: Are these buds ready now? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #613438 - 03/19/12 10:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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hawksapprentice said:
Don't worry about that.  I can see the trichs.  Not ready.




I'll trust you! how long should I wait then? aprox? thanks

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Re: Are these buds ready now? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #613505 - 03/20/12 09:39 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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No way to tell you that man.  You just need to get a magnifying glass and keep and eye on em man.




Ok I might be able to get one today, whats the minimum magnification one can get that still works?

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Re: Are these buds ready now? [Re: taozen]
    #613524 - 03/20/12 11:02 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I wont be able to get one soon, I'll have to relly on the pics, I think I will harvest today, or am I way off? I'd rather harvest early than late.

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Re: Are these buds ready now? [Re: taozen]
    #613567 - 03/20/12 03:51 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I don't want to sacrifice yield and I'm looking at these pics and it seems maybe they are almost but no quite ready. I won't be able to get a magnifier, don't know where to get one in this country.

Anyway, I would like the max amount of milky trichs (5-15% amber), is this not it? (I did my best getting close-ups of to trichs)

Sorry if I'm posting too much but I just want to do it right! thanks!












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Re: Are these buds ready now? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #613576 - 03/20/12 04:34 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

OK Thanks!

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Re: Are these buds ready now? [Re: taozen]
    #613841 - 03/21/12 11:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

ready?


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Re: Are these buds ready now? [Re: punkrocker292004]
    #613898 - 03/22/12 09:48 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Sorry guys, it's just my first time you know. I'm just afraid I'll harvest slightly over ripe buds... I get kind of anxy as I see amber trichs cause I want max yield on milky side of things, max cloudy trichs as in the guide above posted you know, it's kind of what I see no? isnt this 5-10% amber!?!?!?!?!?

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Re: Are these buds ready now? [Re: 13buds]
    #613917 - 03/22/12 02:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

okie doke
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13buds said:
they still look clear to me, only the hairs look amber :shrug:

Id wait a few more days like hawk said. :bonghit2:




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Re: Are these buds ready now? [Re: the man]
    #615323 - 03/30/12 12:04 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

So I finally harvested last friday! a week ago actually. I read through the last posts here and was kind of pissed off to see 40% amber trichs suggested as peak harvest! Isn't that 40% degraded thc?!?! As phrostbyte says some prefer NOT to be couchlocked! and 5-10% seems to be the way to go for us that don't. I clearly stated I was looking for a clear high not a stoned feel!! The only way I see 40% as peak justified as a suggestion is if the yield is indeed bigger, even if only slighlty. Any proof of that?!?! Otherwise it's really anoying that people suggest a harvest for their own taste. Anyway, you live you learn, hopefully I didn't harvest too late for my preference.

I have been drying and I think the buds should be ready for curing today! My objective was to harvesting at peak thc and if anything err on the side of too early, I looked at the trichs on the pics and felt afraid it was going over ripe!!!! with all that amber! I just chopped in dissapointment! Let me know how well/off it went did!!?!??! thanks all!






























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Re: Are these buds ready now? [Re: shagdawg420]
    #615354 - 03/30/12 04:44 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

great! If you guys had to rate the harvest timming? out of ten or something?

Here's what it looks like after a week (7 days) of drying... given the size it should be done, no? but the stem crack test says it's not? it still bends... Is it because of the smallness/thinness of the stem?

The leaves also became dark so that sucks aswell.








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Re: Are these buds ready now? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #615440 - 03/31/12 12:10 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

hey hawksapprentice! sorry dude! you are absolutely right! I was the one asking for advice and asking about... You have been nothing but helpful and I should be nothing but grateful, again sorry... I guess it's just my first timer anxiety steaming off somewhere.

I'm sure it will all be fine once I taste it. :P

Anyway, so whats the story behind amber trichs? people say it's degraded thc turned into cbd? no?

Do you think there's no prob with the darkening leaves? and do you think I should keep drying the bud until no part of the stem folds? even if its so small and thin? Its been 7 days now... or should I start curing? Thanks man!

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Re: Are these buds ready now? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #615495 - 03/31/12 09:39 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks hawk! It wasn't an autoflower, it was just some bagseed I brought from Argentina, which means it's from paraguay. Anyway, I think it's the fact that it grew on 12/12 from the start that allowed for the size. If I knew what I now know about growing I would have had a bigger yield using the same pot size without a doubt. I will begin curing today! :laugh:

Hey Magash I appreciate your apparently expert input. All you say makes perfect sense to me. But yeah, I'd love to know what Hawks asked above.

Also, why do people say that when you harvest late you get a stonier effect and when you harvest earlier you get a clearer effect? And why is it that when you improperly store bud for a long time, so as to degrade it... you get a stonier effect? is it because the thc degrades and the cbd doesn't? oh and what is happening to the trichs as they become amber? thanks!

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Re: Are these buds ready now? [Re: Magash]
    #615538 - 03/31/12 07:35 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Well if you have a strain that isn't turning amber then you just have to use as much common sense as you can. You have a plant where the buds are not getting any bigger or swelling at the pod anymore and things are starting to turn milky. Now a few weeks have passed and nothing is changing you have a sign that you better pull cause things aren't turning amber. (and not all strains will turn amber in color at the trich)

This is the age of the internet try and find reports from people that have grown strains from that area. Now I realize that you don't know the exact strain but you can find out what flowering times for strains that come from the area around and in Paraguay. (which to be honest I'd love to get my hands on to see if it would cross to indicas well as I'm gonna guess that coming from that area it's a pretty hardcore Sativa)

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Also, why do people say that when you harvest late you get a stonier effect and when you harvest earlier you get a clearer effect?


  During late flowering the plant produces more cbd and cbn. Breeders are trying to breed strains that come high in both right from the start of flowering cause they say that both have medicinal qualities and that thc isn't the only thing in weed that helps people.

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when you harvest earlier you get a clearer effect?


as stated this is due to the lack of cbn and cbd. These qualities are not popular in Holland so when you go to the coffee shops there you will have a very hard time finding weed with amber trichs. They like the clear high more. (Although I don't call it a clear high when it's just a high lacking the couchlock effect, to me clear high is a fancy way of saying no high)


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And why is it that when you improperly store bud for a long time, so as to degrade it... you get a stonier effect?


  I live in a area where 75% of the population is weed growers and has been that way since the 70's and have yet to ever hear this till right now. When weed degrades it degrades to shit not to couchlock or every sativa could give a indica high just by letting it sit and that isn't going to happen or there would be a hell of a lot of happy Mexicans and South Americans.

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oh and what is happening to the trichs as they become amber? thanks!


It's like car paint that sits in the sun. What is happening is light, heat, and time are causing the trich to oxidize. When on the plant this happens around the time the plant starts to produce more cbn and cbd. If left to go to far past amber then you end up with shit weed. Next time you have brown Mexican weed look at the trichs. They are not milky or even amber. They have gone past to the point of being almost as brown as the weed or the color of dark sand. This is a sign that they have gone past the harvest prime plus the way they dry the weed causing massive degrading.

They dry the weed in the sun in piles like when you pile leaves in your yard. When the dry they dry brown and nasty since there was no care given to them.



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Magash said:
Well if you have a strain that isn't turning amber then you just have to use as much common sense as you can. You have a plant where the buds are not getting any bigger or swelling at the pod anymore and things are starting to turn milky. Now a few weeks have passed and nothing is changing you have a sign that you better pull cause things aren't turning amber. (and not all strains will turn amber in color at the trich)

This is the age of the internet try and find reports from people that have grown strains from that area. Now I realize that you don't know the exact strain but you can find out what flowering times for strains that come from the area around and in Paraguay. (which to be honest I'd love to get my hands on to see if it would cross to indicas well as I'm gonna guess that coming from that area it's a pretty hardcore Sativa)

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Also, why do people say that when you harvest late you get a stonier effect and when you harvest earlier you get a clearer effect?


  During late flowering the plant produces more cbd and cbn. Breeders are trying to breed strains that come high in both right from the start of flowering cause they say that both have medicinal qualities and that thc isn't the only thing in weed that helps people.

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when you harvest earlier you get a clearer effect?


as stated this is due to the lack of cbn and cbd. These qualities are not popular in Holland so when you go to the coffee shops there you will have a very hard time finding weed with amber trichs. They like the clear high more. (Although I don't call it a clear high when it's just a high lacking the couchlock effect, to me clear high is a fancy way of saying no high)


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And why is it that when you improperly store bud for a long time, so as to degrade it... you get a stonier effect?


  I live in a area where 75% of the population is weed growers and has been that way since the 70's and have yet to ever hear this till right now. When weed degrades it degrades to shit not to couchlock or every sativa could give a indica high just by letting it sit and that isn't going to happen or there would be a hell of a lot of happy Mexicans and South Americans.

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oh and what is happening to the trichs as they become amber? thanks!


It's like car paint that sits in the sun. What is happening is light, heat, and time are causing the trich to oxidize. When on the plant this happens around the time the plant starts to produce more cbn and cbd. If left to go to far past amber then you end up with shit weed. Next time you have brown Mexican weed look at the trichs. They are not milky or even amber. They have gone past to the point of being almost as brown as the weed or the color of dark sand. This is a sign that they have gone past the harvest prime plus the way they dry the weed causing massive degrading.

They dry the weed in the sun in piles like when you pile leaves in your yard. When the dry they dry brown and nasty since there was no care given to them.




Thanks for clearing the smoke Magash! I will indeed look up some paraguayan grow reports. Had not thought of that!

One last question... what is your personal number when it comes to the milky/amber ratio for peak harvest? What would it be for those who prefer peak THC but the least CBD/CBN? and what would it be for those who prefer peak CBD/CBN and are indifferent of THC? thanks!

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Re: Are these buds ready now? [Re: Magash]
    #615698 - 04/01/12 07:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Curing now... 0.76 gram! Take that DEA!




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