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 Re: The World According To Monsanto  [Re: OoBYCoO]
#592691 - 10/18/11 02:46 PM (13 years, 29 days ago) |
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+profit
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: King Koopa]
#592694 - 10/18/11 03:08 PM (13 years, 29 days ago) |
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: King Koopa]
#594937 - 11/01/11 01:42 AM (13 years, 16 days ago) |
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Quote:
King Koopa said:
http://fora.tv/2008/11/17/Drew_Endy_and_Jim_Thomas_Debate_Synthetic_Biology
 "intentions" and "reality" are 2 VERY different things my friend.
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: King Koopa]
#594944 - 11/01/11 03:42 AM (13 years, 15 days ago) |
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Edited by OoBYCoO (11/01/11 03:51 AM)
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Re: The World According To Monsanto *DELETED* [Re: OoBYCoO]
#595036 - 11/01/11 02:49 PM (13 years, 15 days ago) |
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: RedAshes]
#595130 - 11/01/11 11:09 PM (13 years, 15 days ago) |
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No Monsanto, Yes GMO's.
I don't think GMO's to make money is the best idea. This leads to fucked up stuff like the patenting of life, lawsuits against farmers for collecting their own seeds and a focus on increasing profit instead of solving problems. The entire industry should be one of the government IMO.
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: Darwin23]
#602905 - 12/26/11 01:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: OoBYCoO]
#606304 - 01/23/12 03:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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The Corporation: Since the late 18th century American legal decision that the business corporation organizational model is legally a person, it has become a dominant economic, political and social force around the globe. This film takes an in-depth psychological examination of the organization model through various case studies. What the study illustrates is that in the its behaviour, this type of "person" typically acts like a dangerously destructive psychopath without conscience. Furthermore, we see the profound threat this psychopath has for our world and our future, but also how the people with courage, intelligence and determination can do to stop it.
http://www.hulu.com/watch/118169/the-corporation
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: OoBYCoO]
#606305 - 01/23/12 03:12 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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reminds me of that one pink floyd song.
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: King Koopa]
#607854 - 02/01/12 06:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: OoBYCoO]
#607856 - 02/01/12 06:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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lol I'm not mad, well not at you anyway. 
There is PLENTY of documentation on what's going on in India regarding Monsanto. Monsanto recently bought out their major seed co's to get rid of the competition and gain market share. The farmers are committing suicide in India b/c they take loans out on their farms to buy Monsanto's expensive seeds for them only to fail. There have been MASSIVE uprisings and protest in India b/c of it. Do some of your own research. I'll try to find some of the stuff I'm referring too for you. Some of it is also in the video I posted. 
I guess we can't continue the debate unless you do some research b/c the majority of research shows that they do in fact do "way" more harm then good. Nat Geo has done docu's on it... look at "Sex, Drugs, and Plants."
the issues surrounding the farmer suicides are way more complex than that, encompassing everything from weak govt protection and enforcement, drought (the region has been a dust bowl for over a decade, and the fact that the people making the loans are little more than gangsters (the interest itself makes "paying" them nearly impossible)
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: kyuzo]
#607857 - 02/01/12 07:03 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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ok but can we agree that if their seeds are/were drought and pest resistant, like they proclaim it to be to those farmers as a saving grace, they would have harvestable crops. Only thing is... THEY DON'T! Their seed grown crops aren't doing well at all and are being inundated w/ pests and blight!
So b/c there products don't live up to their claims the farmers are that much more worse off. If it delivered as marketed/promised (at ridiculous prices and stipulations) then the farmers would atleast be able to survive... but as it is they have no chance b/c Monsanto put that final nail in their coffin.
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: OoBYCoO]
#607859 - 02/01/12 07:23 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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the monsoons have been failing for over a decade, so the type of seed isn't really going to change much
http://www.economist.com/node/14259028
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: kyuzo]
#607873 - 02/01/12 08:20 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Did you see the date on that article?
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: OoBYCoO]
#607893 - 02/01/12 09:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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OoBYCoO said:
Did you see the date on that article?
Like what? As far as i am aware nothing in it would be considered controversial
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: kyuzo]
#609024 - 02/11/12 08:17 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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kyuzo said:
Quote:
OoBYCoO said:
Did you see the date on that article?
Like what? As far as i am aware nothing in it would be considered controversial
https://foodfreedom.wordpress.com/2011/10/02/india-sues-monsanto-for-biopiracy/
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: OoBYCoO]
#609035 - 02/11/12 10:49 AM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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ok, and?
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: kyuzo]
#609078 - 02/11/12 04:25 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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Did anyone mention the actual physiological dangers of GM crops? Animal studies have shown problems with sterility, still-birth, stunted growth, babies dying after a short time, etc...
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffrey-smith/genetically-modified-soy_b_544575.html
http://www.responsibletechnology.org/
http://www.i-sis.org.uk/GM_Soya_Fed_Rats.php
Pharmaceuticals are supposed to be tested for many years before they are determined to be safe for human consumption. When that process gets pushed aside in the name of profits, we end up with people dying. Because the for-profit corporations producing their medicine can make more money by rushing a deadly product to market (and killing people with inadequately tested drugs, then pulling them from shelves, paying out on a few lawsuits and starting again with a freshly untested drug) than they can by paying and waiting for a safe drug to be approved.
Does anyone else see the parallels between that and what Monsanto is doing?
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: NobodyImportant]
#609082 - 02/11/12 05:09 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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NobodyImportant said:
My problem with GMOs besides the fact that I dont agree with modifying nature on a global scale is this, what happens when the pollen from the GM crops blows out into true nature, we could get some weird mutant plants, or we could create plants that cant survive their normal environment or who knows, anything could happen really
ITT; people who don't understand how genetic engineering works, OR how procreation happens.
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Re: The World According To Monsanto [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#609086 - 02/11/12 05:58 PM (12 years, 8 months ago) |
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science is gay
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