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 cloneufc
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 My first mutation! 
#607594 - 01/31/12 06:01 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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I planted about fifty Sour Diesel seeds. I got a strange mutation on one of them. Out of the fifty, one of them has a bright cherry red stem. The camera on my phone is not doing the color of the stem justice for some reason. I'm gonna grow this bad boy or girl out. I'm hoping it's a female!
The first picture is what all the other seedlings look like.
The second picture is of the mutation.
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RasJeph
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Re: My first mutation! [Re: cloneufc]
#607597 - 01/31/12 06:22 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Not to be a buzzkill or a dick or anything, but I was under the impression that red stems = the beginning of a N deficiency...
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cloneufc
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Re: My first mutation! [Re: RasJeph]
#607600 - 01/31/12 06:27 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Im using fertilizer and the PH is correct. Why would one out of fifty be bright red from the start? I have grown many plants from seeds and this is the first I have seen. It's cherry red unlike the others. I'm pretty sure it's a unique phenotype.
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Miscusi
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Re: My first mutation! [Re: RasJeph]
#607627 - 01/31/12 10:07 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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RasJeph said:
Not to be a buzzkill or a dick or anything, but I was under the impression that red stems = the beginning of a N deficiency...
I have gotten seedlings of any strain that do that.
I never thought anything of it, few weeks and it begins to fade to normal coloration. 
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Dimo114
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Re: My first mutation! [Re: Miscusi]
#607635 - 01/31/12 10:39 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Woa dude you shouldnt be feeding yet.
And I really doubt thats a mutation, prolly a weak pheno
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Miscusi
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Re: My first mutation! [Re: Dimo114]
#607637 - 01/31/12 11:10 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Dimo114 said:
Woa dude you shouldnt be feeding yet.
I agree, I dont start feeding nutrients until after they're 3rd, n 4th leafs start showing.
(Of course I am using FFOF...So they do get nutrients from the soil.)
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RasJeph
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Re: My first mutation! [Re: cloneufc]
#607645 - 01/31/12 12:43 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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cloneufc said:
Im using fertilizer and the PH is correct. Why would one out of fifty be bright red from the start? I have grown many plants from seeds and this is the first I have seen. It's cherry red unlike the others. I'm pretty sure it's a unique phenotype.
I guess you have a point. But I always notice clones doing it, so I figured it was a deficiency or sign of some sort of stress.
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 Hawksresurrection
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Re: My first mutation! [Re: Dimo114]
#607651 - 01/31/12 01:21 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Miscusi said:
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RasJeph said:
Not to be a buzzkill or a dick or anything, but I was under the impression that red stems = the beginning of a N deficiency...
I have gotten seedlings of any strain that do that.
I never thought anything of it, few weeks and it begins to fade to normal coloration.
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Dimo114 said:
Woa dude you shouldnt be feeding yet.
And I really doubt thats a mutation, prolly a weak pheno
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
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phrostbyte
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hawksapprentice said:
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Miscusi said:
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RasJeph said:
Not to be a buzzkill or a dick or anything, but I was under the impression that red stems = the beginning of a N deficiency...
I have gotten seedlings of any strain that do that.
I never thought anything of it, few weeks and it begins to fade to normal coloration.
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Dimo114 said:
Woa dude you shouldnt be feeding yet.
And I really doubt thats a mutation, prolly a weak pheno
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FurrowedBrow
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Re: My first mutation! [Re: phrostbyte]
#607830 - 02/01/12 03:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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i didn't realize there was anything of significance to this occurrence. it's happened to me several times. I didn't think anything of it. Looks like i should do a bit more research. also, i can't tell if its the lights or not, but those leaves are kinda yellow on your plant. that's indicative of a deficiency, if true.
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Harry_Ba11sach
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hawksapprentice said:
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Miscusi said:
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RasJeph said:
Not to be a buzzkill or a dick or anything, but I was under the impression that red stems = the beginning of a N deficiency...
I have gotten seedlings of any strain that do that.
I never thought anything of it, few weeks and it begins to fade to normal coloration.
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Dimo114 said:
Woa dude you shouldnt be feeding yet.
And I really doubt thats a mutation, prolly a weak pheno
This is the fact. Or it's an extra strong pheno, it could be the only seedling showing signs of deficiency because it's the most aggressive feeder.
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cloneufc
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I start my seedlings on fertilizer and never had a problem. I use to use just plain distilled water. Then I started using nutes and it seemed to increase the growth and health of the plants.
After doing some reading it could be red for a number of reasons. Having red stems could be an N,P or K deficiency.
Some people claim the red stemmed plants were their best plants. This seems to be common. I guess time will tell.
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Miscusi
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Re: My first mutation! [Re: cloneufc]
#607841 - 02/01/12 04:46 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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cloneufc said:
Some people claim the red stemmed plants were their best plants. This seems to be common. I guess time will tell.
The few red stems i got seemed to be very vigorous plants... Thats IME. So id rule out deficiency in that case. But not ever case is the same 
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Nanook said:
" People learn differently. Some can observe and gather what they need, others need to do it and experience all the options. One of those options being: burning down a mini fridge. "
Anything posted by me related to cultivation or illegal activities is purely fictional. It is intended for educational or entertainment purposes only.
Please help support the fight for Medical Marijuana in Florida
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: My first mutation! [Re: cloneufc]
#607842 - 02/01/12 04:48 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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That's more than just a red stem though. That thing is pretty yellow.
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
-niteowl
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: My first mutation! [Re: Miscusi]
#607845 - 02/01/12 04:55 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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cloneufc said:
Some people claim the red stemmed plants were their best plants. This seems to be common. I guess time will tell.
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Miscusi said:
The few red stems i got seemed to be very vigorous plants... Thats IME. So id rule out deficiency in that case.
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Harry_Ba11sach said:
extra strong pheno, it could be the only seedling showing signs of deficiency because it's the most aggressive feeder.
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Miscusi
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hawksapprentice said:
That's more than just a red stem though. That thing is pretty yellow.
Who knows.. lol
One thing I can say for sure,Its not going to die if given love and care, It will turn out to be a nice plant (if it doesn't grow balls n bananas)
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Nanook said:
" People learn differently. Some can observe and gather what they need, others need to do it and experience all the options. One of those options being: burning down a mini fridge. "
Anything posted by me related to cultivation or illegal activities is purely fictional. It is intended for educational or entertainment purposes only.
Please help support the fight for Medical Marijuana in Florida
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RasJeph
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Re: My first mutation! [Re: cloneufc]
#607849 - 02/01/12 05:56 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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cloneufc said:I guess time will tell.
True! Keep us updated
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cloneufc
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Re: My first mutation! [Re: RasJeph]
#607951 - 02/02/12 04:37 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Check this out. Here's a unique pheno call Asian Fantasy. It's reported to be one of the stronger strains to exist. The stem is all red. Click the green box, the growery upload is currenty down at the moment.
Edited by cloneufc (02/02/12 04:38 AM)
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RasJeph
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Re: My first mutation! [Re: cloneufc]
#607959 - 02/02/12 05:50 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Pheno of what strain?
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: My first mutation! [Re: cloneufc]
#608021 - 02/02/12 10:11 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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cloneufc said:
It's reported to be one of the stronger strains to exist.
Strongest in what way? Potency, Yield, Voracity, Tolerance? That doesn't look like a very healthy plant.
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Miscusi
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Harry_Ba11sach said:
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cloneufc said:
It's reported to be one of the stronger strains to exist.
Strongest in what way? Potency, Yield, Voracity, Tolerance? That doesn't look like a very healthy plant.
Looks like somebody took a bunch of cuttings and let the poor girl hang out to dry.
Not a nice way to treat a mother plant 
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"You cant arrest me, im high I cant understand my rights!"
Nanook said:
" People learn differently. Some can observe and gather what they need, others need to do it and experience all the options. One of those options being: burning down a mini fridge. "
Anything posted by me related to cultivation or illegal activities is purely fictional. It is intended for educational or entertainment purposes only.
Please help support the fight for Medical Marijuana in Florida
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FurrowedBrow
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Re: My first mutation! [Re: cloneufc]
#608041 - 02/02/12 11:46 AM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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^ya, it def. looks worked over.
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cloneufc said:
Check this out. Here's a unique pheno call Asian Fantasy. It's reported to be one of the stronger strains to exist. The stem is all red. Click the green box, the growery upload is currenty down at the moment.
reported by whom? the seller of the seeds, or a grower who has worked with the strain for years and years. big difference there. looks interesting though.
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cloneufc
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Asian Fantasy is legendary. It was horded by a grower that breed it for years and years. He never released it or the seeds. He finally died and his wife released it to the public. It's a very rare strain. I'm trying to get a hold of it. It's a low yielding medical strain. It's reported to be very potent. I have never tried it personally but a dispensary about an hour from me has it and I'm going to pick it up if they have any left. The strain is unlike other types of marijuana. I know it looks sickly but that's just the way it is. The buds are covered in red hairs.
This is from 420times:
“Looks: A dense bright green nug that is curved like a crab claw. Covered with trichomes that look like dew drops will make anyone’s eyes pop out of their head. Bright red hairs peek out of this flower but even the hairs have some crystals on them. Asian Fantasy is a sight to behold.
Aroma: A sweet and sour pungent aroma that overtakes the senses. One sniff will linger in your senses and haunt your dreams. The aroma of the Asian fantasy has such a kick to it that you can almost taste the potency.
Taste: Asian Fantasy has an unmistakable fresh intense taste to it. Some say spicy some say sweet but however it hits you that hit will be harsh and memorable to your lungs. The after taste is not like cotton mouth at all, more like an exploration into the different flavors you can pick up on from the last hit.
Effects: I describe it as a “mini Burning Man trip”. This is a psychedelic trip without taking LSD. Your thoughts will be like veins in the body….branching off in different directions and leading to unknown places. The sky’s the limit with this high! There is no peak to the mountain top or in other words the high just keeps on coming. There is no heavy body high other than a slight floaty or tingling sensation.
Target Patients: This is for the artist or creative being in everyone. Asian Fantasy is for someone who wants to be energetic, alert and have inspirational thoughts. This is not the type of strain that a novice should try on a whim. Asian Fantasy is for those who are prepared for and enjoy a mind-boggling riproaring time! HTC says buckle up and enjoy the ride!”
While it may be impossible in the end to say one strain is the strongest weed in the world, the search is a fascinating, and quite enjoyable. One thing is for sure: enhanced genetics and improved growing technology means that cannabis will continue to get stronger. Whatever is the strongest weed today may find itself supplanted from the throne tomorrow.
Edited by cloneufc (02/02/12 01:31 PM)
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: My first mutation! [Re: cloneufc]
#608076 - 02/02/12 02:10 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Sounds like a bunch of hype to me.
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
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RasJeph
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hawksapprentice said:
Sounds like a bunch of hype to me.
^
Wheres Magash?
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: My first mutation! [Re: RasJeph]
#608106 - 02/02/12 04:16 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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RasJeph said:
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hawksapprentice said:
Sounds like a bunch of hype to me.
^
Wheres Magash?
Funny
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
-niteowl
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cloneufc
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I can't really say if it's hype or not because I have not tried it. It's definately a medical strain so it has to be decent. I read it gives off potent popcorn buds. It's reported when grown outdoors the stem is green but when grown indoors it's red. Potency of the same strain of cannabis can vary a lot. Check this link out for an example
http://www.straingeniuslabs.com//search?title=white%20widow
If I ever get ahold of this strain I will get it tested at Straingeniuslabs, it's only about $50 to get it tested.
I called around for this strain today and while I found buds for sale I did not find any clones for sale.
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RasJeph
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hawksapprentice said:
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RasJeph said:
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hawksapprentice said:
Sounds like a bunch of hype to me.
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Wheres Magash?
Funny
Lol, no man, I was agreeing. I just assumed he'd know something about it since hes generally really on top of strains and breeders and stuff 
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: My first mutation! [Re: RasJeph]
#608120 - 02/02/12 05:08 PM (12 years, 9 months ago) |
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Oh i know. I just thought it was funny is all
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
-niteowl
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