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6, 12 or 24 hours for canna butter ???
#583222 - 09/03/11 12:23 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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So I have read to cook cannabutter anywhere from 6-24 hours.
So whats the consensus here?
I think its more than 6 but less than 24
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Re: 6, 12 or 24 hours for canna butter ??? [Re: niteowl]
#583543 - 09/04/11 12:58 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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never ever done it anywhere close to that long with coconut oil
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Re: 6, 12 or 24 hours for canna butter ??? [Re: anonymouse]
#583596 - 09/04/11 08:43 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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never ever heard of using coconut oil
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Re: 6, 12 or 24 hours for canna butter ??? [Re: niteowl]
#583663 - 09/05/11 10:07 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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really? coconut oil can absorb more thc than alot of other oils due to half of it being lauric acid, surprised you never heard of it being used before it will bring out the full effect
Edited by anonymouse (09/10/11 10:24 AM)
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Re: 6, 12 or 24 hours for canna butter ??? [Re: niteowl]
#584041 - 09/06/11 02:16 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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I use 5.33 oz of trim to 4 lbs of butter, in a Hamilton Beach crock pot ($45 on Amazon) set to "warm", for 48 hours. Note, you'll have to re-set the crock pot every 15 hours or something, as it has an auto-shutoff timer. To the point, this method of making butter is hands off, just stir it a couple of times throughout, strain, and you'll have some KILLER cannabutter.
The 5.33 oz of trim to 4 lbs butter typically yields about 5 - 5.5 cups of finished product.
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Re: 6, 12 or 24 hours for canna butter ??? [Re: geokills]
#584082 - 09/06/11 06:16 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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geokills said: I use 5.33 oz of trim to 4 lbs of butter, in a Hamilton Beach crock pot ($45 on Amazon) set to "warm", for 48 hours. Note, you'll have to re-set the crock pot every 15 hours or something, as it has an auto-shutoff timer. To the point, this method of making butter is hands off, just stir it a couple of times throughout, strain, and you'll have some KILLER cannabutter.
The 5.33 oz of trim to 4 lbs butter typically yields about 5 - 5.5 cups of finished product.
Why so long tho?
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Re: 6, 12 or 24 hours for canna butter ??? [Re: c99hunter]
#584120 - 09/06/11 08:39 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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I dont know how its done with butter as i've never used it, but with coconut oil I think the longest i've left it on is 2 hours and I think even then it might be too long since it was pulling it alot of chlorophyl
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Re: 6, 12 or 24 hours for canna butter ??? [Re: anonymouse]
#584468 - 09/07/11 07:55 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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4 hours.
The method I like best is to put a couple inchest of water in the bottom of a pot. Add 4 sticks of butter and an ounce of what ever I have. I remove all the stems first then I grind my pot in a coffee grinder. Bring the water to a simmer. Add the butter and let it melt. Then add the pot. Whisk together. Simmer for 4 hours. Stir often in the first hour and only once an hour for the remaining three. Now strain the water butter pot through cheese cloth into other containers that you can lid up. Put those in the fridge. The butter will rise to the top the water will fall. The butter will harden. Remove the butter from the top and discard the water. This method removes a lot of the crud you don't want to eat anyway. Also the water prevents the butter from burning or scorching during the long simmer.
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Re: 6, 12 or 24 hours for canna butter ??? [Re: chucklehead]
#584482 - 09/07/11 09:35 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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From personal experience I know that 4 hours is not nearly enough time to extract all of the goodies from the plant materiel @ 210F.
Go for an 8 hour extraction and you will know what I mean
For my next round of cooking I may take a small pot and about ~2 cups of oil and heat it to ~300F and let a couple of ounces of weed sit in that for a couple of hours
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Re: 6, 12 or 24 hours for canna butter ??? [Re: niteowl]
#584644 - 09/08/11 05:10 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Worked well for me. I guess the thing to do is a side by side test. Split the batch and do one for four hours and one for eight and so on. It's a shame there isn't some magical dipstick that gives you ppm of the THC THCA CBD CBN. Wouldn't that be nice.
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Re: 6, 12 or 24 hours for canna butter ??? [Re: chucklehead]
#587108 - 09/18/11 01:25 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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The bottom line is that there are a lot of ways to make a functional cannabutter. I choose the crock pot and 48 hour on warm because it's hands off, doesn't require any babysitting, stir it to mix at the beginning when the butter first melts, and then maybe once or twice more. Strain and cool. Ready for use.
I have in the past used boiling water, throw in the butter and the herb, and let that go for an hour or two. But really, that method requires considerably more effort, particularly when you're done and you have to separate the water from the butter. It can be done, but there is definitely more loss involved, in that sludgy scummy watery butter that doesn't ever harden quite right.
With the slow cooker, water is completely removed from the equation, no watching over a boiling pot, and you are left with an easily strained, cooled and hardened product with negligible added moisture and minimal sediment that can easily be scraped off the bottom of your cannabutter bricks and used as a B-grade product if you prefer.
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Re: 6, 12 or 24 hours for canna butter ??? [Re: geokills]
#588412 - 09/24/11 10:30 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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i just did mine for 1 hour and im high as hell with some cookies i made with it.
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SalviaNshrooms9090 said: i just did mine for 1 hour and im high as hell with some cookies i made with it.
how much herb did you use was it buds or trim?
did you use coconut oil or butter or something else?
did you use high -med - low heat?
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SalviaNshrooms9090 said: i just did mine for 1 hour and im high as hell with some cookies i made with it.
Dude!!
1 hour isn't NEARLY enough time to extract all the goodies.
Yea, you got high from it, but you could have gotten MUCH higher had you been more patient with it
Im not sure why I even bothered asking this kind of question here
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Re: 6, 12 or 24 hours for canna butter ??? [Re: niteowl]
#590475 - 10/05/11 09:08 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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yeah well it was my first time.. i used trim.. and some budsand stems..i used butter i started freaking out after an hour because everything was pretty dark.. and i thought i over cooked it..it didnt taste great either, but it worked.
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Did you not do any reading prior to attempting to make your cannabutter?
I've not read one single tek that calls for a 1 hour cook. All the teks I've read called for no less than 6-8 hours
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Re: 6, 12 or 24 hours for canna butter ??? [Re: geokills]
#590584 - 10/05/11 04:50 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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geokills said: The bottom line is that there are a lot of ways to make a functional cannabutter. I choose the crock pot and 48 hour on warm because it's hands off, doesn't require any babysitting, stir it to mix at the beginning when the butter first melts, and then maybe once or twice more. Strain and cool. Ready for use.
I have in the past used boiling water, throw in the butter and the herb, and let that go for an hour or two. But really, that method requires considerably more effort, particularly when you're done and you have to separate the water from the butter. It can be done, but there is definitely more loss involved, in that sludgy scummy watery butter that doesn't ever harden quite right.
With the slow cooker, water is completely removed from the equation, no watching over a boiling pot, and you are left with an easily strained, cooled and hardened product with negligible added moisture and minimal sediment that can easily be scraped off the bottom of your cannabutter bricks and used as a B-grade product if you prefer
See, I've tried using butter up to 24 hours in a slow cooker and the results were .... meh
The best results I've had to date is using Coconut Oil. Its solid like lard @ room temperatures.
Warm the oven up to ~300f put coco oil in to liquify add cannabis and stir well let sit in oven ~2 hours stirring every ~20 minutes strain and use/store for later use
This method made a product that was easily 2x more potent than any of my prior cannabutter attempts.
And FYI I have been making just enough for a single batch of brownies. Eight cleaned grams of the same cannabis to 1/3 cup of butter/oil in all my batches. The only difference has been the way I made the cannabutter/oil. This way everything is the same except the process. So I can know what actually works, and what doesn't Plus I have been getting feed back from some friends as well
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Re: 6, 12 or 24 hours for canna butter ??? [Re: niteowl]
#591435 - 10/10/11 11:35 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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niteowl said:
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geokills said: The bottom line is that there are a lot of ways to make a functional cannabutter. I choose the crock pot and 48 hour on warm because it's hands off, doesn't require any babysitting, stir it to mix at the beginning when the butter first melts, and then maybe once or twice more. Strain and cool. Ready for use.
I have in the past used boiling water, throw in the butter and the herb, and let that go for an hour or two. But really, that method requires considerably more effort, particularly when you're done and you have to separate the water from the butter. It can be done, but there is definitely more loss involved, in that sludgy scummy watery butter that doesn't ever harden quite right.
With the slow cooker, water is completely removed from the equation, no watching over a boiling pot, and you are left with an easily strained, cooled and hardened product with negligible added moisture and minimal sediment that can easily be scraped off the bottom of your cannabutter bricks and used as a B-grade product if you prefer
See, I've tried using butter up to 24 hours in a slow cooker and the results were .... meh
The best results I've had to date is using Coconut Oil. Its solid like lard @ room temperatures.
Warm the oven up to ~300f put coco oil in to liquify add cannabis and stir well let sit in oven ~2 hours stirring every ~20 minutes strain and use/store for later use
This method made a product that was easily 2x more potent than any of my prior cannabutter attempts.
And FYI I have been making just enough for a single batch of brownies. Eight cleaned grams of the same cannabis to 1/3 cup of butter/oil in all my batches. The only difference has been the way I made the cannabutter/oil. This way everything is the same except the process. So I can know what actually works, and what doesn't Plus I have been getting feed back from some friends as well
Finally somebody who has used coconut oil as well can comment on a low hour cook with great results like I've had!
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Re: 6, 12 or 24 hours for canna butter ??? [Re: anonymouse]
#591459 - 10/10/11 02:27 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yea, the coconut oil works the best of all the oils I've tried so far.
DO NOT USE EXTRA VIRGIN OLIVE OIL
I have some soy lecithin on the way too its supposed to help the thc bind to the oil and help your body to absorb the thc
I have also started powdering my cannabis, sifting out the lil pieces of stems and not straining the oil. Leaving the cannabis in the oil will allow whatever you make to get stronger as it sits.
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Re: 6, 12 or 24 hours for canna butter ??? [Re: niteowl]
#593203 - 10/21/11 01:25 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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niteowl said: Yea, the coconut oil works the best of all the oils I've tried so far.
DO NOT USE EXTRA VIRGIN OLIVE OIL
I have some soy lecithin on the way too its supposed to help the thc bind to the oil and help your body to absorb the thc
I have also started powdering my cannabis, sifting out the lil pieces of stems and not straining the oil. Leaving the cannabis in the oil will allow whatever you make to get stronger as it sits.
Or better yet to increase potency but loose the flakey bits (not that its always bad). Let it chill over night (or longer) than reheat and strain and let chill again.
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