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Re: Fuck coir. [Re: A To The K]
    #592910 - 10/19/11 10:40 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Coco coir is a hydro method.
Mhbound is right about the ph.
As well as being a little early to start feeding.
I've done tons of research on coco because I'be started my first coco grow.
It appears you can water/feed every day or every other day and water in between.
Some even choose to feed several times a day.
You should check ppm's and ph of feeding mix before feeding, and every now and then check the run ppms and ph to monitor for salt built ups.
Here's a good thread to help get you started with the coco experience.

http://www.growery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/126598#126598

Hope this helps a bit.


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Re: Fuck coir. [Re: maryanne3087]
    #593112 - 10/20/11 06:31 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

:lol:
I never think about soil or amending, mainly because hydro is all I know.
And in this case his question was about straight coco coir.
But I see where you're coming and yeah I agree as well.
Is there a reason you choose to feed several times a day?
I just started using coco myself, and I'm kinda following Heads plan just to get  a good grip on things.
Also how often do you flush, when feeding several times a day?
Just curious to how quickly salt built ups begin.
I prefer to stay a head on things like that.


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Re: Fuck coir. [Re: maryanne3087]
    #593289 - 10/21/11 12:38 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Stoneth said:
Is there a reason you choose to feed several times a day?
I just started using coco myself, and I'm kinda following Heads plan just to get  a good grip on things.
Also how often do you flush, when feeding several times a day?
Just curious to how quickly salt built ups begin.
I prefer to stay a head on things like that.




I choose to feed several times a day because you're providing nutrient rich irrigation with lots of dissolved oxygen several times a day which increases growth rate since you're turning your "passive hydro" into "active hydro" since there's an active exchange of nutrient solution and oxygen. You also can't over water using this method since every time you water you're bringing in fresh oxygen into the root zone.

H3ad waters like this too, however my "formula" is modified from H3ad's to suit a wider range of plants and to avoid deficiencies (although he and other 6/9 growers claim to get none or next to none).

Every time you water you're flushing so long as you water to run off which I do each time. The the main reason salt build up occurs is watering less frequently to the point where the medium gets a chance to dry out. In case it's not obvious if you start with a 1300+ ppm nutrient solution (not uncommon for most growers) and 70% of that water is taken up by plants or evaporated you're going to be left with ~4000 ppm nutrient solution in the remaining 30% of the medium. In a case where a coco grower uses/does 1. high ppm 2. doesn't flush 3. doesn't water to run off that grower will run into problems with salt build up / overly acidic medium very quickly.



Cool deal then, I'm actually doing things right at this point, other than I'm only watering once a day.
I think I'll set up a drip system, to change that.
I'm using Flora Duo at 9/3 veg, 3/9 flower, and staying around 600 ppm in veg, and 900 in flower.
So far so good, I think I'm falling in love with this stuff.


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Re: Fuck coir. [Re: maryanne3087]
    #593310 - 10/21/11 03:17 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

No it's the new GH line.
Flora Duo A and B is a two part nute that hasn't been out long.
http://www.generalhydroponics.com/blog/2011/02/16/what-does-it-do-floraduo/

There's a link to their blog.
I haven't experience any ph issues, or seen any sighs of mg issues as of yet.
And with one N sensitive plant of mine I had to cut back to 2/1 ratio.
And she took off.
I'm using it in a drip system with hydroton, also a bubble bucket DWC, and in coco.
In coco they recommend sub-culture m and b which I don't use atm, waiting to see if it's truly needed or not.
I also use florablend, floralicious Plus, and FadidStarter, in the flowering I'll be adding in the koolblooms, and carbo load.
Can't wait til harvest day, to taste the results.
Can say it's much cleaner than the FloraNova, and I haven't had any clogged drip lines since starting using it 3 months back.


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