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 mother showing more than preflower. help 
#580693 - 08/24/11 03:48 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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(jack h clone from seed mother. most vigorous clone from batch taken from mature seedplanted mother)
and i really want to keep her around
obviously i have clones from her, they are still very young, not even veg yet.
but if i move her to flower, i will have a pretty significant gap where i will not have the ability to clone this strain.
im sorry the pictures are shitty, no camera besides my phone atm. the pictures are kind of an illusion
they make it seem like preflower
but looking at the plant, i can tell its going into flower. whether due to age, or?(not photoperiod, i can guarantee)
im wondering if its going to take more time to MAKE SURE SHE CONTINUES VEGGING, and continue to take clones (with the obvious time gap coming from the amount of time it will take the clones to revert to vegetative growth)
or if it would take more time if i forget about her as a mom, and flower her, and raise her strongest clone up and turn to the new mother?
which is going to be most effective (time, quality of product,energy(more physical, than electrical  ) that kinda stuff
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 Re: mother showing more than preflower. help [Re: just me]
#580698 - 08/24/11 04:08 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Make a new mother. Lot less time.
From that you can do as many mothers as you want.
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Re: mother showing more than preflower. help [Re: KaptKid]
#580707 - 08/24/11 04:43 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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ok. 
one of her original clones was going to be a mother anyway
so go ahead and flower jh mom #1?
im just trying to minimize that gap of time not having j.h. for a mother 
thanks for the help.
does this factor in at all
she and 3 other strain mothers are all on 24 hours of light
if shes trying to flower, its genetically related right? and cant be due to photoperiod.
-is it a vegging plant that is attempting to flower
-or a flowering plant that is in veg conditions?
you know what i mean? like what hormones she got going on at this point?
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 Magash
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Re: mother showing more than preflower. help [Re: just me]
#580725 - 08/24/11 05:59 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Check if the plant is root bound. I've grown J.H. more times then I can count and if she gets root bound she tends to start flowering. There are several strains like this one of the best that is known for it is Mikado. Like Mikado J.H. tends to do it, not in every case but often enough.
By the way you can clone flowering plants they root just as fast but it takes a little longer to get them vegging cause they have to revert growth. 
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Re: mother showing more than preflower. help [Re: Magash]
#580740 - 08/24/11 06:53 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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shes not root bound, but shes ready for a transplant
sucks i gotta use huge pots for a mom
Magash, there was no fluctuation in photoperiod
not even since she started "flowering",
has she been out of 24hr light
so there has to be some mixed signals going on in her right now, yes?
if it were up to you, would you continue her as the mother, (because of reasons you select her in the first place) and put her in a bigger pot. and not worry too much about her little hiccup
or would it be best to flower her now that shes sort of started
i understand that one of the up and coming clones from her previous prunings/clonings will make a suitable mother
but if i can keep my JH mom with my other Moms and them all be relatively equal in most ways, then i like that better
i also wonder, the period of time it takes for this "hiccup" to be over and all her hormones be back to veg...
or is it too late
round and round
i want to keep her and im kinda out of room fo flower
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Re: mother showing more than preflower. help [Re: just me]
#580742 - 08/24/11 06:58 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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also, Magash, im sure you know, but anyone else who knows,
any good sites, or really informative info online on strains.
wait a minute! growery might have this info.
i remember a friend showing me a site that basically we could pull up any strain thru history, and present. read about the high, it had a rating, strain dominance, flowering time, etc etc
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Re: mother showing more than preflower. help [Re: Magash]
#580754 - 08/24/11 08:16 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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I may have to try this reveg sometime just to ck it out.
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Re: mother showing more than preflower. help [Re: KaptKid]
#580792 - 08/24/11 09:54 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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ive revegged plenty
but im getting more dialed with
selective genetics, etc
and for once id like to not freak my ladies
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Re: mother showing more than preflower. help [Re: just me]
#580819 - 08/25/11 03:49 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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http://www.strainguide.org/faq
Scroll down to the list of seed company names, it's the old Overgrow strain guide.
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Re: mother showing more than preflower. help [Re: Magash]
#580842 - 08/25/11 08:44 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks!
hey, i recently asked the question about topping once
12 hour photoperiod is initiated
and the reply was its a no no
im reading thru Cervanted book, and he is very opposed to pruning/descrowling a plant
im still in my diapers of indoor growing, but outdoor, i like to remove much of the junk. and ive done this countless times thru flowering cycle, with no noticable adverse effects.
im wondering tho, how my indoor would respond, if i went out and removed the lower unnecessary branches, flowerheads, and leafs.
any thoughts on this?
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Re: mother showing more than preflower. help [Re: just me]
#580847 - 08/25/11 09:33 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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If its yellowing I remove it but other wise leave it.
All that plant material can be use to make hash oil and I have found the popcorn buds can be very potent.
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Re: mother showing more than preflower. help [Re: KaptKid]
#580859 - 08/25/11 11:08 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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true
im just wondering how much it takes away from my main flowering sites
i did not do this before putting them into the room
theyre not seedlings tho, so its not SO much unnecessary foliage and branching, minimal, but seems enough to share vital nutrients with the main heads.
and shared means dispersed right?
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Re: mother showing more than preflower. help [Re: just me]
#580862 - 08/25/11 11:32 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Someone with more experience will have to answer that.
Its a good question. Will it help the buds be larger?
Also another question that goes right along with this,
Would this help air flow enough to prevent mold?
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Re: mother showing more than preflower. help [Re: KaptKid]
#581019 - 08/25/11 11:30 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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i ALWAYS ALWAYS prune my plants
take the unwanted crap from the bottom for circulation, and for better nutrient, and growth displacement
helps prevent molds, and fungus in and around the soil
etc
but its usually a life long process for the plant.
these particular set of clone, i left alone for quite awhile to strengthen them up
about 2 weeks before i put them into flower, i pulled clones off all them. but only enough to fill a box, which meant there was a lot of lower scrag branch remaining.
this never got removed, and the plants were put into flowering as such
EVERY time i go say hi to the girls, i want to pick, and poke, etc etc
but im actually taking professional advice this time, and gonna try the way Cervantes claims to be the best, and see what i feel about that.
the closet it getting gorgeous. im too noid bout the girls to post up pics, but maybe ill figure somethin out
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