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OfflineTrippin509
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What's your opinion on Kratom?
    #580364 - 08/23/11 11:27 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I'm looking to try it here soon. Sounds like a great high.

Anyone experienced it?

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Re: What's your opinion on Kratom? [Re: Trippin509]
    #580409 - 08/23/11 02:02 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Wonderfull.

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Re: What's your opinion on Kratom? [Re: Fisherman]
    #580413 - 08/23/11 02:13 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I like it! :shrug:


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Re: What's your opinion on Kratom? [Re: Trippin509]
    #580420 - 08/23/11 02:41 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Harry_Ba11sach said:
I like it! :shrug:



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Re: What's your opinion on Kratom? [Re: nannybooboo]
    #580426 - 08/23/11 02:49 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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nannybooboo said:
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Harry_Ba11sach said:
I like it! :shrug:







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Re: What's your opinion on Kratom? [Re: RasJeph]
    #580435 - 08/23/11 03:34 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

i dont like it

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Re: What's your opinion on Kratom? [Re: sean] * 1
    #580437 - 08/23/11 03:37 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

wai not sean?

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Re: What's your opinion on Kratom? [Re: Trippin509]
    #580441 - 08/23/11 03:44 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Never tried it.


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Re: What's your opinion on Kratom? [Re: Stoneth]
    #580551 - 08/23/11 10:45 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

what's kratom? :rolleyes:


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Re: What's your opinion on Kratom? [Re: iStoner]
    #580571 - 08/24/11 12:01 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

:coaster:


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you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.  :twobooks:

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Re: What's your opinion on Kratom? [Re: Trippin509]
    #580583 - 08/24/11 02:18 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I recently tried kratom for my first time and really enjoyed it. I experienced a nice euphoric buzz, somewhat stimulating at first then became more sedating, left me with a happy clear and calm feeling. I have social anxiety/awkwardness occasionally, kratom melted that away more so than what alcohol or benzos does for me and while keeping my mind lucid.

The buzz is relatively short (1.5 to 3 hours for me) but you can always re-dose. And I experienced a headache during the comedown on two different occasions, but it wasn't that bad.




I think it's an awesome plant, on par with cannabis in my opinion :yesnod: .



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Re: What's your opinion on Kratom? [Re: openmind]
    #580590 - 08/24/11 05:16 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Never been all that social on it, usually take too much and just lie around n space out ^^

Anyawy whats your social dose for kratom? o: might wanna try that for the cozyness of it.

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Re: What's your opinion on Kratom? [Re: Fisherman]
    #580746 - 08/24/11 07:14 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I love kratom, take it every day. I usually get capsules so idk how much im taking but i start with like 15 caps and then couple hours later like 8 more.

Good stuff, makes my work day go by quicker.

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Re: What's your opinion on Kratom? [Re: Shroomofdoom]
    #580763 - 08/24/11 08:38 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I got no effects from it and I used a half OZ made into tea, two separate occasions, might have been bunk tho


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Re: What's your opinion on Kratom? [Re: Trippin509]
    #580965 - 08/25/11 08:57 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Trippin509 said:
I'm looking to try it here soon. Sounds like a great high.

Anyone experienced it?





Man the kratom high is fucking FANTASTIC!! Be wary on high doses the comedown is pretty horrid. Doesnt make you feel to great...

If ya can get the vile green powder down youll be in bliss. Blast the trance and voila youll be flying in heaven

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Re: What's your opinion on Kratom? [Re: Wonderland]
    #580995 - 08/25/11 10:07 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

i like kratom i have some bags of it

edit-btw does it cause a stimulant effect?

Edited by sean (08/25/11 10:09 PM)

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Re: What's your opinion on Kratom? [Re: sean]
    #581003 - 08/25/11 10:24 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Problem is it gets expensive if you buy capsules, I should buy powder and capp it myself but I just dont feel like it.

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Re: What's your opinion on Kratom? [Re: Shroomofdoom]
    #581068 - 08/26/11 03:50 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

To be honest, Kratom doesn't do much for me that I notice but I use it anyway

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Re: What's your opinion on Kratom? [Re: sean]
    #581086 - 08/26/11 05:20 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Trust me and yourself, if ya wanna try kratom it is really mellow! and lucid o:

If you get a regular powder like regular bali, just use, 10-20gram, id start in the 10-15g dose(20 if you think u got a good stomach), down it with orange juice or something, just put it in the orange juice and drink it, looks nasty, doesnt taste like much, only annying thing is the kratom gets stuck in small bubbles in the juice it might get a little powdery in there. Yo call - :yesnod:

I usually have a great time on it, I dont move around much during the trip, mostly to pee or go lie in bed for the rest of the night after a few albums of music. Feels real mellow as long as you dont always do it too often I guessed, your spiritual call.
I noticed sometimes id get reeeeeaaal warm sensations on the day after as long as I didnt puke any of it up, my best reccomendation is do a large dose and lie in bed all day the day after, just do the kratiom in the afternoon-evening, and dont have too much food in your stomach.

Love it.

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Re: What's your opinion on Kratom? [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #581137 - 08/26/11 08:09 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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NobodyImportant said:
I got no effects from it and I used a half OZ made into tea, two separate occasions, might have been bunk tho




probably bunk, i though the same for a while but recently tried some high quality stuff and was blown away

id recommend not making tea and just mixing what you were going to take in water and chugging it.


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See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.

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Re: What's your opinion on Kratom? [Re: still beLIEve]
    #581278 - 08/26/11 08:30 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

It sounds like a great, legal, recreational plant that I plan to try in the future!


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Re: What's your opinion on Kratom? [Re: sean]
    #581279 - 08/26/11 08:32 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I don't even bother with making the tea....I'll just toss a few grams in my mouth then wash it down with a beer or something. I also like holding 0.5g or so under my tongue (Sublingual) during the come up.








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sean said:
i like kratom i have some bags of it

edit-btw does it cause a stimulant effect?





I notice a stimulant effect initially then it turns a little more sedating. Lower doses are said to generally be more stimulating. It also really depends on the strain :yesnod:




:stoner:

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Re: What's your opinion on Kratom? [Re: openmind]
    #581406 - 08/27/11 12:41 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

It's an opiate.


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Re: What's your opinion on Kratom? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach] * 1
    #581475 - 08/27/11 07:49 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Harry_Ba11sach said:
It's an opiate.






What I find interesting about the active alkaloids in kratom, though, is that they are more structurally related to psychedelic tryptamines than they are to classic opiate alkaloids. But they do no produce psychedelic effects, rather, they're mostly mu-opioid receptor agonists.


At lower doses, Mitragynine exhibits a yohimbine-like binding to alpha-adrenergic receptors, as well as some binding to the delta opioid receptors. As doses increase, binding to delta receptors increases, and in yet higher doses, crossover to mu receptors occurs....So the character of the effects are very dose dependent, not to mention each strain of kratom has a different make up/ratio of alkaloids.





:stoner:


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Re: What's your opinion on Kratom? [Re: openmind]
    #581476 - 08/27/11 07:52 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Could you drop dirty on kratom?

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OfflineFisherman
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Re: What's your opinion on Kratom? [Re: Shroomofdoom]
    #581479 - 08/27/11 08:04 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

You gotta lurve it, not drop dirty on it, maybe a little dirty dropping though ;b

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Re: What's your opinion on Kratom? [Re: Shroomofdoom]
    #581480 - 08/27/11 08:17 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

what is this dirty dropping you speak of :strokebeard: ....




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Re: What's your opinion on Kratom? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #581482 - 08/27/11 08:34 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

that you wont fail drug tests for!


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niteowl said:
See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.

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Re: What's your opinion on Kratom? [Re: still beLIEve]
    #581486 - 08/27/11 08:54 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

but if we round it up round.

Put it in a sack

Tie a string around it, what do we get? :p

something very evil.

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Re: What's your opinion on Kratom? [Re: still beLIEve]
    #581528 - 08/27/11 11:36 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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still beLIEve said:
that you wont fail drug tests for!






No you won't, as far as I know. Even though the alkaloids have action on opioid receptors, they (as well as their metabolites) are not related to the "classic" opiates so I am damn near positive they will not show up on a drug test.


But I have heard drug tests to detect kratom are in development, which is fucked because the plant isn't even illegal...yet.





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Re: What's your opinion on Kratom? [Re: openmind]
    #581531 - 08/27/11 11:40 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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openmind said:
Quote:

Harry_Ba11sach said:
It's an opiate.






What I find interesting about the active alkaloids in kratom, though, is that they are more structurally related to psychedelic tryptamines than they are to classic opiate alkaloids. But they do no produce psychedelic effects, rather, they're mostly mu-opioid receptor agonists.


At lower doses, Mitragynine exhibits a yohimbine-like binding to alpha-adrenergic receptors, as well as some binding to the delta opioid receptors. As doses increase, binding to delta receptors increases, and in yet higher doses, crossover to mu receptors occurs....So the character of the effects are very dose dependent, not to mention each strain of kratom has a different make up/ratio of alkaloids.





:stoner:


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Just maybe us humans aren't using it right.


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Re: What's your opinion on Kratom? [Re: King Koopa]
    #581591 - 08/28/11 09:31 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

As mentioned above, we are not exactly using our heads.. right.

Anyways! I recently went to the psychiatry ward (again, boo :frown: )for 3 months for.. lets just call it jailtime.

Anyways, They did piss tests on me there, after like 2 months, and my opiate line was very vague, same as my thc line, will all other drug lines were all fresh and clear, that means that after two months I still had opiates in my system and the thc was from a small amount of budder and a half bongrip I took while I was locked up, but the line was still there so I got in no trouble ;D

So it might show up on drug tests, if you cant use your damned head right.

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