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 ninja cat 09
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 Re: What's your opinion on Kratom?  [Re: still beLIEve]
#581278 - 08/26/11 08:30 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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It sounds like a great, legal, recreational plant that I plan to try in the future!
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 openmind
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Re: What's your opinion on Kratom? [Re: sean]
#581279 - 08/26/11 08:32 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't even bother with making the tea....I'll just toss a few grams in my mouth then wash it down with a beer or something. I also like holding 0.5g or so under my tongue (Sublingual) during the come up.
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sean said:
i like kratom i have some bags of it
edit-btw does it cause a stimulant effect?
I notice a stimulant effect initially then it turns a little more sedating. Lower doses are said to generally be more stimulating. It also really depends on the strain 
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Re: What's your opinion on Kratom? [Re: openmind]
#581406 - 08/27/11 12:41 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's an opiate.
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Re: What's your opinion on Kratom? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach] 1
#581475 - 08/27/11 07:49 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Harry_Ba11sach said:
It's an opiate.
What I find interesting about the active alkaloids in kratom, though, is that they are more structurally related to psychedelic tryptamines than they are to classic opiate alkaloids. But they do no produce psychedelic effects, rather, they're mostly mu-opioid receptor agonists.
At lower doses, Mitragynine exhibits a yohimbine-like binding to alpha-adrenergic receptors, as well as some binding to the delta opioid receptors. As doses increase, binding to delta receptors increases, and in yet higher doses, crossover to mu receptors occurs....So the character of the effects are very dose dependent, not to mention each strain of kratom has a different make up/ratio of alkaloids.
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Re: What's your opinion on Kratom? [Re: openmind]
#581476 - 08/27/11 07:52 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Could you drop dirty on kratom?
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Re: What's your opinion on Kratom? [Re: Shroomofdoom]
#581479 - 08/27/11 08:04 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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You gotta lurve it, not drop dirty on it, maybe a little dirty dropping though ;b
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Re: What's your opinion on Kratom? [Re: Shroomofdoom]
#581480 - 08/27/11 08:17 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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what is this dirty dropping you speak of  ....
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Re: What's your opinion on Kratom? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#581482 - 08/27/11 08:34 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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that you wont fail drug tests for!
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niteowl said:
See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.
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Re: What's your opinion on Kratom? [Re: still beLIEve]
#581486 - 08/27/11 08:54 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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but if we round it up round.
Put it in a sack
Tie a string around it, what do we get? :p
something very evil.
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Re: What's your opinion on Kratom? [Re: still beLIEve]
#581528 - 08/27/11 11:36 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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still beLIEve said:
that you wont fail drug tests for!
No you won't, as far as I know. Even though the alkaloids have action on opioid receptors, they (as well as their metabolites) are not related to the "classic" opiates so I am damn near positive they will not show up on a drug test.
But I have heard drug tests to detect kratom are in development, which is fucked because the plant isn't even illegal...yet.
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Re: What's your opinion on Kratom? [Re: openmind]
#581531 - 08/27/11 11:40 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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openmind said:
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Harry_Ba11sach said:
It's an opiate.
What I find interesting about the active alkaloids in kratom, though, is that they are more structurally related to psychedelic tryptamines than they are to classic opiate alkaloids. But they do no produce psychedelic effects, rather, they're mostly mu-opioid receptor agonists.
At lower doses, Mitragynine exhibits a yohimbine-like binding to alpha-adrenergic receptors, as well as some binding to the delta opioid receptors. As doses increase, binding to delta receptors increases, and in yet higher doses, crossover to mu receptors occurs....So the character of the effects are very dose dependent, not to mention each strain of kratom has a different make up/ratio of alkaloids.
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Just maybe us humans aren't using it right.
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Re: What's your opinion on Kratom? [Re: King Koopa]
#581591 - 08/28/11 09:31 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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As mentioned above, we are not exactly using our heads.. right.
Anyways! I recently went to the psychiatry ward (again, boo  )for 3 months for.. lets just call it jailtime.
Anyways, They did piss tests on me there, after like 2 months, and my opiate line was very vague, same as my thc line, will all other drug lines were all fresh and clear, that means that after two months I still had opiates in my system and the thc was from a small amount of budder and a half bongrip I took while I was locked up, but the line was still there so I got in no trouble ;D
So it might show up on drug tests, if you cant use your damned head right.
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