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 GreenHavens
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Registered: 07/08/11
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 Sad little droopy leaves... 
#573672 - 07/21/11 05:47 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Anyone have any ideas on what is causing our leaves to droop like this? And what do we need to change? Thanks!
 
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lucas_southoz
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Re: Sad little droopy leaves... [Re: GreenHavens]
#573741 - 07/21/11 08:09 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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GreenHavens
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Re: Sad little droopy leaves... [Re: lucas_southoz]
#573774 - 07/21/11 09:57 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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1. Are you growing from seed or clones?
Clones
2. How old are your plants?
They are 8 days into 12/12
3. How tall are your plants?
20 Inches
4. What type of hydro system are you using?
Ebb n Flow
5. What brand/type of nutrients are you using?
Bontanicare/Hydrozyme/H2O2
6. What is the Ph of your nutrient solution?
6.1
7. What is the PPM/EC of your tap water?
100
8. What is the PPM/EC of your nutrient solution?
2000+
9. What is the temperature of your nutrient solution?
69 F
10. Does your PPM/EC show a rise or fall when you do your daily PPM check?
Usually a slight rise
11. Does your pH show a rise or fall when you do your daily check?
A rise
12. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything?
No
13. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights")
2 600W HPS
14. How close are your lights to the plants?
18 Inches
15. What size is your grow space in square feet?
156 Square Feet
16. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space?
Humidity 70-80% Temp 75 F
17. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space?
No
18. How much experience do you have growing?
First time
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Pernicious
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Re: Sad little droopy leaves... [Re: GreenHavens]
#573885 - 07/22/11 10:05 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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to me it looks like overwatering/lights too close
since your doing hydro how often are you changing your reservoir? aside from too much light/water dirty water will make them look like that too.
for instance im growing soil but i am only using a 400w and anything closer then 20" is too close for my girls because i dont have a cool tube reflector and the space is small.
whats your room temp at?
Edited by Pernicious (07/22/11 10:09 AM)
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 Magash
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Re: Sad little droopy leaves... [Re: GreenHavens]
#573986 - 07/22/11 10:31 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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The plants look like they were fed to much phosphorus. (Flowering nutrient)
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GreenHavens
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Re: Sad little droopy leaves... [Re: Magash]
#574440 - 07/24/11 09:12 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Alright, so we fixed the lights being too close to the SSH, and moved all of the SSH under one light to keep them at bay for now. We also changed the watering schedule for the ladies. We had them at 8 flood times per 24 hrs, they are now at 4 flood times (4 floods x 15 min, 3 times during the day, and 1 time at night).
I also have another problem arise...I bought a Hanna digital pH meter, but it only goes up to 2000 ppm, then the screen throws me "---" which I assume is it's maximum threshold. What should I do to measure the ppm in the reservoir? Is there another way to measure it?
I will change the nutrients over to the base and bloom formula later when I change out the reservoir, maybe that could remedy the phosphorus problem we were having? We were running the Base, Grow, and Bloom nutes 1000 ml each to prepare for the aggressive transition phase, but I will switch over to full bloom status.
Thanks guys for all the feedback! Keep growing!
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brainsOplenty
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Registered: 05/14/11
Posts: 769
Loc: zion
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Re: Sad little droopy leaves... [Re: GreenHavens]
#574573 - 07/25/11 06:00 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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isn't 2000 ppm a bit heavy?
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GreenHavens
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Re: Sad little droopy leaves... [Re: brainsOplenty]
#574647 - 07/25/11 10:33 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's what I thought, however, all of the other strains are kicking serious ass with it, so maybe it's just the Silvers? A 100 gallon reservoir is easy to get a high ppm in.We had to use quite a bit of nutrients to get the formula correct.
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Pernicious
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Re: Sad little droopy leaves... [Re: GreenHavens]
#574957 - 07/27/11 06:38 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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iunno man ive never had good results with anything going over the 1400-1600 mark. if its working stick with it but thats a pretty heavy ppm.
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brainsOplenty
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Re: Sad little droopy leaves... [Re: GreenHavens]
#574967 - 07/27/11 07:09 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
GreenHavens said:
That's what I thought, however, all of the other strains are kicking serious ass with it, so maybe it's just the Silvers? A 100 gallon reservoir is easy to get a high ppm in.We had to use quite a bit of nutrients to get the formula correct.
you may want to get some advice from one of the TC's around here, but i tend to operate on the "less is more philosophy" i'd seriously consider bringing the ppm down a bit, like 1400-1600 like pernicious said.
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muse42
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Re: Sad little droopy leaves... [Re: brainsOplenty]
#574984 - 07/27/11 08:33 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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2000+ is too high. Your plants look over watered and over fed. Also, 2000+ tells me you don't know your ppm. It could be 2001 or 2500 or more.
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Edited by muse42 (07/27/11 08:35 PM)
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GreenHavens
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Re: Sad little droopy leaves... [Re: muse42]
#574996 - 07/27/11 09:45 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hey all! Thanks for all the help. We just did a reservoir change tonight, and it looks as though the plants are much happier. One big change that I think helped them out was purchasing a dehumidifier. Knocked our humidity down by 50%! So now our room is averaging a 80F/45% temp to humidity level. Oh and after the full bloom nutes our ppm is chilling right around 1500 ppm. Oh yeah, Muse : the 2000+ ppm is what I was trying to explain above...the meter got up to 2000 and then said "---".So yes, I had no idea what it was at. At the end of the day, all is well in the land of our green women...
Edited by GreenHavens (07/27/11 09:51 PM)
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Pernicious
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Re: Sad little droopy leaves... [Re: GreenHavens]
#575035 - 07/28/11 07:07 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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lol they do look much happier. plants are good at bouncing back when you treat them well 
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brainsOplenty
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Re: Sad little droopy leaves... [Re: Pernicious]
#575325 - 07/29/11 08:26 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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yay...happy plants
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muse42
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Re: Sad little droopy leaves... [Re: brainsOplenty]
#575327 - 07/29/11 08:33 PM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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Great news!
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trikki
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Re: Sad little droopy leaves... [Re: muse42]
#581377 - 08/27/11 10:42 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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1. Are you growing from seed or clones?
clones
2. How old are your plants?
about 8 weeks
3. How tall are your plants?
1 1/2 feet
4. What size containers are they planted in?
2.6 litter containers
5. What is your soil mix?
miracle grow
6. How often do you water and what type of water do you use?
once a day with filtered water
7. What is the pH of your water?
I dont know
8. What kind of fertilizer do you use and what is its NPK ratio?
Im using humbolt county oneness p-n-k is 5-9-4
9. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything?
no
10. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights")
4 ft 2 lamp t-5 flourescent not sure of watts
11. How close are your lights to the plants?
about 7-10 inches
12. What size is your grow space in square feet?
4 1/2 ft x 3 1/2 ft
13. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space?
the temp is about 76-78
14. What is the pH of the soil?
not sure
15. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space?
found out yesterday I had spider mites. I sprayed with a mite killer
16. How much experience do you have growing?
this is my second grow please help
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muse42
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Re: Sad little droopy leaves... [Re: trikki]
#581402 - 08/27/11 12:31 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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um... help with what? The spider mites or something else?
Plus it would be best if you started your own thread in this forum for better responses.
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sean
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Re: Sad little droopy leaves... [Re: muse42]
#581403 - 08/27/11 12:35 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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MY tree has two strands that are drooping too, maybe too much water
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muse42
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Re: Sad little droopy leaves... [Re: sean]
#581415 - 08/27/11 01:03 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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I would say too much water, if you are watering every day.
Proper watering should be only as the plant needs it. You will get use to the weight of you plants wet and dry over time, but until then you can check buy sticking your finger in the soil. When the first 2-3 inches feel bone dry, then it is time to water. Your temps look great so you should not have to water but every 2-3 days I would guess. You want to water until you get run off. Which means you should have plenty of holes in you pots. I add holes to the store bought pots is use. 10-20 more 1/8 inch holes at least.
I would also say, bad choice of soil, small pots, and above all else you need to know your water and soils pH. This is very important.
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trikki
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Re: Sad little droopy leaves... [Re: trikki]
#581445 - 08/27/11 03:00 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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my plants have popped back up after a watering but I also think I have a calcium and magnesium deficiency. how do I fix that? the tips of my fan leaves are curling downward and turning brown
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sean
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Re: Sad little droopy leaves... [Re: trikki]
#581817 - 08/28/11 11:07 PM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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U can see the two drooping strands near the TV. i think it just naturally grows like that
Edited by sean (08/28/11 11:09 PM)
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I_AM_SWIM
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Re: Sad little droopy leaves... [Re: sean]
#582093 - 08/30/11 12:08 AM (13 years, 2 months ago) |
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nice quality pics man, ya it just grows naturally like that
u will have budz in no time
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