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 FurrowedBrow
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#562403 - 06/06/11 02:40 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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I wanted to start with providing some information to those who lack it. Bongs have come a long way over the years. We've not got them with multiple percolators, diffusers, ash catchers, etc to help increase the enjoyment of hitting the bong. The rationale behind the use of a bong is the claim that the cooling effect of the water helps to reduce the chance of burning the mouth, airways, and lungs, thus using a bong to smoke is safer. The water can trap some heavier particles and water-soluble molecules, preventing them from entering the smoker's airways. (note there's a maps study cited below, which contests this)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bong
Percolator - A water pipe percolator (perc for short) is a small additional sub chamber within the shaft of a water pipe that provides in-line smoke-water interaction via heat exchange and dissolution. Percolators come in different forms, such as dome, pedestal, tree and the more recent double helix. Depending upon the form of the percolator, it may or may not be diffused. However, the primary purpose of the percolator is to act as an extra chamber to filter smoke through water.Here's an example of a single and multiple percolators....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_pipe_percolator
See here for popular types of percolators available
Single Dome Percolator
Another Single Dome Percolator
Ph(x) Trinity bong with three inline percolators
A secondary function of a percolator is to trap certain components contained within the smoke. Water soluble substances enter into solution as the smoke/vapor contacts the water, while less soluble substances pass through with relative ease. However, studies conducted by MAPS and CA-NORML have demonstrated that filtration by solvation is ineffective when consuming smoked cannabis.[1] The studies infer that the solubility of Cannabinoids, the active components in the smoke, are similar to or greater than that of tar, and so no (or negative) "filtration" takes place.
http://www.maps.org/news-letters/v06n3/06359mj1.html
Diffuser - As diffusers can mostly be found on male downstems, the only percolator that diffuses smoke is the tree percolator. A diffuser works by utilizing a pressure differential between its bottom and top in/outlets. Reduced pressure at the outlet end is usually provided by the users lungs. The fluid at the inlet (i.e.: a smoke, vapor, and air mixture) is directed to the bottom of a column of water, where the pressure differential causes the inlet fluid to pass though the water in small pockets (liquid bubbles), and then rise to the outlet. In short, diffusers make smoke cooler, and rise evenly through the pipe, due to the water bubbles hitting the surface simultaneously.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_pipe_percolator#Function_and_purpose_of_a_diffuser
Diffused downstem - There are lots of different kinds. Here are a few....
Inline diffuser -
Ash catchers (A/C) and precoolers - Ash catchers slide into the downstem and you put the bowl piece on top of the ash catcher. It filters out all the ash in the ashcatcher before it reaches the bong which helps you get a cleaner hit. It isn't really about smoothness (a perk yes) but rather to keep you from using up pounds of salt and tons of rubbing alcohol cleaning the main piece. Instead the ash catcher gets the brunt of the nasties while the bong takes on a lighter more brownish resin instead of tar black. I think the differences in a precooler vs. an ashcatcher are apparent.
traditional ash catcher
Pre-Cooler 4 arm
http://www.grasscity.com/smoking-pipes/spare-parts/ashcatchers-pre-coolers/pre-cooler-4-arm-black-leaf.html
Pre-cooler with inline diffuser
I think the worst thing about an ash catcher is that, if you fill it with water, you must remove it from the piece before releasing your suction. otherwise water will go up the stem and get your weed all wet.  so, what did i miss here?! Feel free to post your own bongs/water pipes!
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I would break all those little pieces and then just say fuck and use a pipe.
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T-Rex
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Excellent thread FB, love my bong so much
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FurrowedBrow said:
what device is that in his hand?
I want one.
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Slave of Cthulhu
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It's not a bong but I just love the pic, haha.
There's always so much random shit on my table.
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Dr. Siekadellyk
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Good thread idea FB! 
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iwasaClown
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I want a nice bong so bad.
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Ben18
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Thebooedocksaint said:
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FurrowedBrow said:
what device is that in his hand?
I want one.
phedor lighter
http://www.phedor.com/
they are sweet but pricey
clean smoke though.
 
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Data
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FurrowedBrow said:
  fuck that is beautiful
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what device is that in his hand?
looks to me like a little resistance heating element, which would reduce the amount of shit you inhale from the incomplete combustion of butane (yes it is incomplete otherwise you would see blue or no flame when you light it, the reason simple (bic-style) lighters have a yellow flame is because the soot generated during the incomplete combustion absorbs the heat generated and radiates near-blackbody radiation in the form of visible light. Using a resistance heating element such as the one above would allow the user to (with careful trial and error) semi-vaporize the greens below, and with a bit of finesse one could probably completely vaporize, but its probably used to reduce nasty shit in your smoke.
On a different note, I know that you mentioned (FurrowedBrow) that tar and Cannabinoids may have similar solubilities in water, but I was wondering about the vaporization temperature range for most plant-based pyrolysis tars. If the vaporization temperature is decently higher than that of the bulk of cannabinoids, and assuming you could size the diffuser openings to get the perfect temperature range, then you could effectively condense tars out while leaving cannabinoids vaporized. This seems highly unlikely though, as people can super cool their smoke using multiple stages of diffused water filtration followed by a large ice bed, and still get high. What this indicates is that the condensation is forming tiny aerosols that stay trapped in the bubbles for the most part, otherwise there would be a very noticeable decrease in high for every new stage of water filtration. 
bongs are lovely,    
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Re: Bongs! [Re: Data]
#562574 - 06/06/11 09:15 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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i love my bong <3
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Re: Bongs! [Re: coda]
#562578 - 06/06/11 09:37 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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Data
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how do i get my hands on that green monster
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Re: Bongs! [Re: Data]
#562590 - 06/06/11 10:11 PM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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Bad ass thread FB!
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Here's mine, I know its cheap, but does the job 
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Moi qui avait accepté leurs lois
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J'ai besoin de me trouver une histoire à me conter
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Re: Bongs! [Re: Manitou]
#562623 - 06/07/11 04:14 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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my new piece just came in the post  but i got no bud to try it out
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Re: Bongs! [Re: Data]
#562626 - 06/07/11 07:05 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
agmotes165 said:
how do i get my hands on that green monster
Pay like $8000 because its an Illadelph.
My bong is simple, with ice pinches and a fixed diffused stem. I'd like something more complex, but its just not a priority right now. I rarely smoke the bong anymore, its just a pain in the ass I don't feel like fucking around with
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Re: Bongs! [Re: RasJeph]
#562643 - 06/07/11 09:12 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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this one is only 2000 USD haha
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Re: Bongs! [Re: Data]
#562647 - 06/07/11 09:18 AM (13 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's cool and all, but the mark-up on these things just for the name is disgusting. Find a local glass blower and give them 300-400 bucks and you will receive their masterpiece.
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