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kidaihuan
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Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

#55184 - 06/10/08 10:40 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Here's my thought process,

Quote:

For 2C-I
1g = $109
Trips (theoretical) = 50 (20mg per)
Trip time = 5+ hours
Cost per trip = $2.18
Cost per tripping hour = $0.44

Advantages
- Low hourly cost
- Longer trips
- No paraphernalia/smoking

Quote:

For Salvia Divinorum 20x
1g (70+mg S.A.) = $17
Trips (theoretical) = 70 (1mg S.A. per)
Trip time 15+ minutes
Cost per trip = $0.24
Cost per tripping hour = $0.97

Advantages
- Short trip
- Low tolerance
- Low startup cost

Now that I think about it, I really should get both. But I would rather not spend even more money yet.

I've never done either, by the way, so I have no way to compare trips.

For a bit of personal stuff... I like mushrooms very much, I am OK with pot and alcohol - but pot pretty much only in a social setting.

Oh, and by the way.

How long and how should the 2C-I be stored? Because a gram of that would last a LONG time.

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: kidaihuan]
#55187 - 06/10/08 10:42 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

You got your salvia all wrong. That would be good for about 4 trips. Maybe less. Lasts way less that 15 mins. 5 tops for me.

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: kidaihuan]
#55188 - 06/10/08 10:43 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

i wouldn't get 2C-I personally. heard that iodine on it gives people problems such as thyroid problems and shit. the other 2c's are supposedly safer. like 2c-e

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: usg543]
#55190 - 06/10/08 10:48 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

2C-e is the one I'm interested in.

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kidaihuan
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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: highasfuck]
#55191 - 06/10/08 10:52 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

highasfuck said:
You got your salvia all wrong. That would be good for about 4 trips. Maybe less. Lasts way less that 15 mins. 5 tops for me.

I shot high, which is why I said theoretical, but it's not that low.

Much more than four.

BTW, I'm probably going to need to pick up a mg scale, huh?

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: kidaihuan]
#55192 - 06/10/08 10:56 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

2c-i is great. very visual, and synergizes beautifully with ganja but then again what doesn't. imo definitely go with the 2c-i.

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: andyistic]
#55193 - 06/10/08 10:57 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

reading up on 2c-e and 2c-i awhile back, i wanted to try 2c-e

never did, figured lsd, mdma, and ketamine were better choices.

i only did mdma twice just to try it, but god i miss that feeling. hated the ketamine though.

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: usg543]
#55194 - 06/10/08 10:58 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

usg543 said:
reading up on 2c-e and 2c-i awhile back, i wanted to try 2c-e

never did, figured lsd, mdma, and ketamine were better choices.

i only did mdma twice just to try it, but god i miss that feeling. hated the ketamine though.

why only twice. e is awesome.

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: kidaihuan]
#55195 - 06/10/08 10:59 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

kidaihuan said:
Quote:

highasfuck said:
You got your salvia all wrong. That would be good for about 4 trips. Maybe less. Lasts way less that 15 mins. 5 tops for me.

I shot high, which is why I said theoretical, but it's not that low.

Much more than four.

BTW, I'm probably going to need to pick up a mg scale, huh?

Trust me. Its about 4 good times. I gots z dank salvia from bouncing bear.

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: Doitagain]
#55198 - 06/10/08 11:01 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

i believe all those rumors about it fucking up your head. i mean look at coaster :wink:

:wink:

anyways i'm more of a guy who likes to try new things, i try not to make anything a habit. once or twice is enough. :wink:

:wink:

only have a few drugs left i want to try... heroin (or oxycontin) and mescaline

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: usg543]
#55200 - 06/10/08 11:07 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

So much pedro in my town.

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: highasfuck]
#55229 - 06/10/08 11:48 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Where do you buy 2c-i and 2c-e

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: NobodyImportant]
#55231 - 06/10/08 11:49 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

NobodyImportant said:
Where do you buy 2c-i and 2c-e

www.bobs-2c-i-emporium.com

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: Doitagain]
#55232 - 06/10/08 11:50 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

its not illegal though right ?

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: NobodyImportant]
#55235 - 06/10/08 11:53 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Why should that stop you from persuing your desires?

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: andyistic]
#55236 - 06/10/08 11:53 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

andyistic said:
Why should that stop you from persuing your desires?

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: usg543]
#55239 - 06/10/08 11:55 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

usg543 said:
Quote:

andyistic said:
Why should that stop you from persuing your desires?

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ltd said:
fgts just don't understand

keep the shit

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: usg543]
#55241 - 06/10/08 11:56 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

oh trust me it wont, just wondering why that dude was posting a stupid fake site :p

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: Doitagain]
#55242 - 06/10/08 11:56 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Doitagain said:
Quote:

usg543 said:
Quote:

andyistic said:

:angrykidface:

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: NobodyImportant]
#55248 - 06/11/08 12:01 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

NobodyImportant said:
oh trust me it wont, just wondering why that dude was posting a stupid fake site :p

cause im nodding.

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: kidaihuan]
#55301 - 06/11/08 03:59 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

i say 2ci

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

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#55305 - 06/11/08 04:14 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

NO ONE is going with Salvia?

I guess my choice is made.

:awesome:

:awesome:

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: kidaihuan]
#55345 - 06/11/08 06:47 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

I cant believe you even need to ask.

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: Hanky]
#55348 - 06/11/08 06:49 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

I just needed to have full justification for spending $109 instead of $17.

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: kidaihuan]
#55353 - 06/11/08 06:58 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

dood ur nub get em both

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: kidaihuan]
#55357 - 06/11/08 07:02 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

kidaihuan said:
I just needed to have full justification for spending $109 instead of $17.

]

Sell ten doses for $15 each. Le Derrrrrrr.

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: Hanky]
#55362 - 06/11/08 07:30 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Since my wife is Chinese, I have to go to China or she has to come to Canada.

I can't go to China with a criminal record.

I can't bring her to Canada if I have a criminal record.

So if I get busted, I am FUCKED for life.

Which is why I won't sell. (and conveniently, why it is good that 2C-I is legalish)

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: kidaihuan]
#55363 - 06/11/08 07:31 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

lul is she mail order bride

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: kidaihuan]
#55365 - 06/11/08 07:35 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Get a real wife and you'll be able to stop worrying about stupid shit all the time.

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: Doitagain]
#55369 - 06/11/08 08:04 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

personally ide go with the 2c.

I had 2ci a few years ago and loved it the trip was a total mindfuck but I was still able to function and no body high.

Salvia floored my ass showed me some crazy shit and then it left as soon as it kicked in. real fun but 2ci is a better high imo

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: Doitagain]
#55494 - 06/11/08 11:16 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

I would go for the 2C-I if you had to pick between the two.....2C-I is pretty fun but very drawn out unlike 20x salvia which will just make you feel weird for 5 minutes..you should hold off the salvia until you find some really good non-headshop salvia...im getting 100x from this guy tomorrow actually :eek:

:eek:

but if you wanted to try something that would be similar to 2C-I try mescaline :crazy2:

:crazy2:

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

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#55498 - 06/11/08 11:21 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Sure you can trust that it's really 100x?

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: kidaihuan]
#55507 - 06/11/08 11:50 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

gawd. just eat some arsenic

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: wowitch420]
#55543 - 06/11/08 12:35 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Jenkem?

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: Doitagain]
#55545 - 06/11/08 12:36 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

lol @ the vote for salvia

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See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: still beLIEve]
#55547 - 06/11/08 12:40 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

you know no one with a decent supply of acid or shrooms available?

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: StorkOfLife]
#55553 - 06/11/08 12:42 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

my mom

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niteowl said:
See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: StorkOfLife]
#55564 - 06/11/08 12:45 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

StorkOfLife said:
you know no one with a decent supply of acid or shrooms available?

I don't know anyone that has seen acid or shrooms.

I live in a really small conservative catholic-priest-buttfucking-children community when I'm not in Shanghai.

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: kidaihuan]
#55572 - 06/11/08 12:52 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

i hear theres all kinds of shrooms and acid in shainghai so yeah save the bill and trip out insanely :mikemyers:

:mikemyers:

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: StorkOfLife]
#55573 - 06/11/08 12:52 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

just go to laos and get some tina and opium

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: StorkOfLife]
#55576 - 06/11/08 12:55 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

StorkOfLife said:
i hear theres all kinds of shrooms and acid in shainghai so yeah save the bill and trip out insanely

?

shrooms where?

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: kidaihuan]
#55577 - 06/11/08 12:55 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

dude in thailand they are practically legal or so i hear

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: wowitch420]
#55579 - 06/11/08 12:56 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

That's fucking Thailand.

CHINA we're talking about.

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: kidaihuan]
#55581 - 06/11/08 12:57 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

yeah China too

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: kidaihuan]
#55582 - 06/11/08 12:58 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

kidaihuan said:
That's fucking Thailand.

CHINA we're talking about.

:rofl2:

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niteowl said:
See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: StorkOfLife]
#55583 - 06/11/08 12:58 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

So how do I find them then?

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: kidaihuan]
#55588 - 06/11/08 01:01 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

go to a lot of nightclubs

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: StorkOfLife]
#55589 - 06/11/08 01:01 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

:smirk:

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: kidaihuan]
#55590 - 06/11/08 01:03 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

seems to be of no problem to you considering your wife is going to want to know what that colorfull square of greatness is doing on your tongue when you go to kiss her

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Re: Should I buy 20x Salvia or 2C-I?

[Re: StorkOfLife]
#55594 - 06/11/08 01:07 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

She knows I do drugs, however, she has never seen them nor knows what they look like or how they work.

I don't club, though, and I don't like the idea of trying to make a cheap purchase from a theoretical guy in a club.

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