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 Pandor
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40 percent. Highest I have ever seen it is 50 but it usually stays low 40s.
Yes, those pics look gorgeous. It's impossible to see. Mostly a few bottom leaves here or there are showing just a little powder here or there and just a little bit on the lowest stems. We have already thrown a couple plants away.
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Harry_Ba11sach
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 Re: sick noob grow  [Re: Pandor]
#543425 - 04/05/11 12:58 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well if it's just fan leaves then I would trim those leaves off instead of trashing the entire plant and see if you can fight it off for the next 4-5 weeks until harvest. You have a shit ton of an investment to pay back and I don't think it's prudent to trash your entire first crop for a tiny little splash of mildew. Try to keep the RH in there absolutely as low as you can, and maximize airflow (this might even mean investing in a dehumidifier which can be major $$$$). I would let all the current crop finish, and fight the problem as you go, but then clean out every square inch of the room after the harvest so this doesn't happen again.
Oh and also STOP GOING TO DISPENSARIES FOR CLONES. I think that should be lesson #1 for every new grower. I never even knew what spider mites looked like until I started going to dispensaries, Then I nearly lost two entire crops to them and only after taking 10 months off from growing have they finally disappeared (so far, knock on wood)
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Pandor
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I didn't go to a dispensary. I went to a grower that my friend followed religiously on youtube. He trusted him. We have no idea if this was the cause or not.
Realistically, WE DID NOT NEED CLONES.
I hope other new growers learn from my errors. I had beautiful plants that I had grown from seed. There was no reason for us to go out and buy more. Shitty planning. We figured the plants I grew from seed could be mothers and we would throw the clones right in to flower.
It's just fan leaves for now, but I have no idea if that shit is in the flowers. And don't dispensaries test for that shit anyway? I think we are fucked. I hope I am wrong.
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: sick noob grow [Re: Pandor]
#543430 - 04/05/11 01:24 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hmm weird. My guess would be that grower got his clones from a dispensary, or has another grower with the issue etc... It gets passed on in so many ways it's fucking infuriating.
Some dispensaries will test and others won't. Hopefully you'll be fine, and if you can increase your airflow and decrease the RH in the room then realistically the PM won't be spreading and you can finish the grow. If I were in your shoes I'd rather have a couple pounds of "I hope I can sell this" than 15 plants in the trash. 
Best of luck to you
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Pandor
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How low is too low with the RH? What do I want it to be ideally now with the mildew?
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: sick noob grow [Re: Pandor]
#543450 - 04/05/11 02:50 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't know about TOO low, but I grow in Colorado where people call 15% a "disgusting humid mess" so I'm thinking you'll be fine.
I usually grow around 10-20% RH and never have any issues
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Re: sick noob grow [Re: Damion5050]
#544689 - 04/09/11 08:59 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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hola
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: sick noob grow [Re: Pandor]
#544712 - 04/09/11 09:45 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sooo..... How's it going in here, Pandor?
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Pandor
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Not sure if I mentioned in this thread but we have a tent with 4 plants we are going to flower now too. So that's a total of 5000 watts of grow power.
All of my vegetative plants are in 7 gallon air pruning pots. They are going to be sick fucking huge when I flower them. 2 plants per light.
I try to remember to take some pictures in the flowering room when lights come on.
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Pandor
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Re: sick noob grow [Re: Pandor]
#545130 - 04/10/11 10:05 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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edit. bad post.
Edited by Pandor (04/10/11 11:50 PM)
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Pandor
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Re: sick noob grow [Re: Pandor]
#545257 - 04/11/11 12:10 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sorry for that last post. I was making excuses for myself not feeling like doing anything lately. I still don't have flower room pictures. Lights are out in there right now. I need to go take some tonight.
One of the original seeds I grew in the beginning of the thread.
Plan is to flower this next time around.
We sorted through all the clones we purchased.
Some were thrown away, some went in to our tent, and the very best ones were kept, transplanted in to 7 gallon air pruning pots. These clones have been difficult to train all along. Right now I am doing a combination of tying them down and clipping. Want to make them in to strong monster plants, as close to the condition of the plant shown above as possible.
The 4 clones that were chosen to go in to the tent. As soon as my room mate returns with the switch, these will go in to flower. We will have the 4000 watt room going, then when lights go out, one of the ballasts will be used to power this tent. Our goal is to either get 3 more tents, or just set up another room (running out of room in the house) so that we can have 4000 watts going for 12 hours during the day, and the other room will have 4000 watts going at night. This is in addition to the vegetative growth room. These plants did get some LST, and now I have just been pruning, clipping them down. I will probably end up taking a little more off of the tops of these plants because I worry about them growing too tall for the tent.
Remember the latest batch of seedlings? They are not seedlings anymore.
And finally, the clones. Not that we have room for more plants.....
Seedlings need to get transplanted in to bigger pots, and these are ready for coco.
  
Still need to get you an update on the flowering room. I am overdue to make a video too.
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Re: sick noob grow [Re: Pandor]
#545260 - 04/11/11 12:15 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mmmm hmmm, those ladies are looking mighty green. That's some mother material right there.
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Pandor
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Re: sick noob grow [Re: Dephect]
#545493 - 04/11/11 10:29 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Getting really close to the one month mark.
  
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Tank333
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Re: sick noob grow [Re: Pandor]
#545495 - 04/11/11 10:32 PM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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You don't have any Co2 in the rooms, do you?
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Re: sick noob grow [Re: Tank333]
#545532 - 04/12/11 12:56 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Your humidity dooms looks dry.
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Pandor
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Quote:
Tank333 said:
You don't have any Co2 in the rooms, do you?
no. we have a regulator but we want to have a grow under our belts before we use it.
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MushrooMan420 said:
Your humidity dooms looks dry.
it's been over a week and I thought it was OK to let the humidity drop a little.
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Pandor
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Re: sick noob grow [Re: Pandor]
#545563 - 04/12/11 10:06 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Pandor said:
Getting really close to the one month mark.
I know it's probably hard to tell from the pictures but are the plants too green?
Guy at the hydro store said they look like they are too green and I should lower the nitrogen.
I am using a slight variation of Lucas formula.
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: sick noob grow [Re: Pandor]
#545565 - 04/12/11 10:12 AM (13 years, 8 months ago) |
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What's your feeding rate? I think they're fine if they're not yellowing yet, but they should be starting to here in the next week or two.
You should tell us your ml/gallon for all your nutes so we can see where the N is at.
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Pandor
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Maryanne suggested I use these numbers:
N 100-140
P 40-60
K 200-250
Ca 125
Si 70
Mg 60
S 60
The recipe we created comes out to:
N 134
P 72
K 203
Mg 64
S 56
Ca 128
This was after fucking with different a combination everything, could not get K just right without high P.
Exact amount of fertilizer per gallon:
4ml Flora Grow
7ml Flora Micro
8ml Flora Bloom
8ml Liquid Karma
5ml Sweet
5ml Pro Silicate
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