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lucas89
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first grow nearing harvest

#536652 - 03/13/11 06:45 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

how do they look?

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Re: first grow nearing harvest

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#536663 - 03/13/11 07:46 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

fine prob a few more weeks

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Re: first grow nearing harvest

[Re: the man]
#536693 - 03/13/11 09:31 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I would give her at least 1 more week man if not 2. I am still seeing a lot of white pistils. If your going by pistil color you want at least 75% of pistils to be amber. If you want it to be knock out couch lock go for 100% amber.

Your also looking for very swollen calyxs and those don't look all that swollen to me.

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Re: first grow nearing harvest

[Re: Dephect]
#536698 - 03/13/11 10:00 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

you are talking 2 dif things pistils are teh red hairs not the crystals and have nothing to do with stone. trichomes however turn amber and do effect change in cannibinoid content.

Edited by the man (03/14/11 01:03 AM)

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Re: first grow nearing harvest

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#536741 - 03/14/11 12:52 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Trichomes change color and wither, thus affecting the pistil color.

Some other indications of ripe buds are;
Swollen Calyxs
Production of crystals has stopped
Production of bud mass has stopped
Fan leaves start to turn yellow and drop off

Edited by Dephect (03/14/11 01:59 AM)

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Re: first grow nearing harvest

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#536743 - 03/14/11 01:00 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

:facepalm:

^^^ dude pistils dont even globe headed trichs. please dont spread misinfo if you dont know morphology thats fine. red hairs are pistils and have no trichs

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Re: first grow nearing harvest

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#536747 - 03/14/11 01:37 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

.

Edited by Dephect (03/14/11 01:48 AM)

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Re: first grow nearing harvest

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#536748 - 03/14/11 01:46 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Oh and if its misinformation you might want to send Greg Green a message and tell him trichomes don't form on pistils and he should take that information out of his book, because from what I am reading they do. Maybe you should read up before correcting people.

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Re: first grow nearing harvest

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#536749 - 03/14/11 01:50 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

As the pistils grow out from the calyx they form resin glands (trichomes), which gradually change in color before they shrink and wither. This withering of the trichomes affects the look of the pistils, which in turn fade and tend to look burn and dry.

:shrug:

:shrug:

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Re: first grow nearing harvest

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#536752 - 03/14/11 02:51 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

umm looks good but u need to kill that big ass fly on the last pic in the bottom left corner of the plant... other wise nice..

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Re: first grow nearing harvest

[Re: Dephect]
#536785 - 03/14/11 08:53 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Trichs growing on the pistils eh?

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#536803 - 03/14/11 11:22 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: first grow nearing harvest

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#536806 - 03/14/11 11:37 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Dephect said:
I would give her at least 1 more week man if not 2. I am still seeing a lot of white pistils. If your going by pistil color you want at least 75% of pistils to be amber. If you want it to be knock out couch lock go for 100% amber.

Your also looking for very swollen calyxs and those don't look all that swollen to me.

your clearly talking about "red hairs" and not trichome color. calyx color is a bad indicator as they can vary alot. trich heads however are pretty reliable.

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#536807 - 03/14/11 11:43 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: first grow nearing harvest

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#536808 - 03/14/11 11:46 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

oh sorry redhairs are stigmas part of the pistil but usually people just call red hairs pistils. the red hairs def dont have trichomes(globeheads) and he was refering to the calyx and is sort of confusingly written. the rest of the pistil is inside the calyx and you dont see it. red hairs are not resinous (thc sense) and you can test that yourself.

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Re: first grow nearing harvest

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#536816 - 03/14/11 12:39 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Huh. I'll be damned.

I honestly don't think its the trichs changing that makes the pistils turn color. I mean, thats just in my opinion though.

Think of your preflowers, those brown up way before the others, sometimes before any (significant) trichome production.

:shrug:

:shrug:

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Re: first grow nearing harvest

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#536819 - 03/14/11 01:03 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

It was not really all that confusing. I said the pistils change colors, due to withering of the trichomes : You disagreed with that part, I use the correct term for everything really.

I also said the CALYXS SWELL : Which is also very very true, and not confusing if you know what they are.

Quote:

Dephect said:
Trichomes change color and wither, thus affecting the pistil color.

Some other indications of ripe buds are;
Swollen Calyxs
Production of crystals has stopped
Production of bud mass has stopped
Fan leaves start to turn yellow and drop off

Anyways Lucas you got your verdict :smile:

:smile:

:bongload:

WAIT A FEW MORE WEEKS FOR THAT PERFECT SMOKE

:awehigh:

:awehigh:

No doubt Trichome color is a expert indicator when you have access to a magnifying glass. A easier way to tell is to look at pistils though. Do 75% percent of pistils turn amber before trichome production? Nope. If they do that means you have a problem.

Edited by Dephect (03/14/11 01:23 PM)

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Re: first grow nearing harvest

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#536828 - 03/14/11 01:41 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

all i will say is stigma browning and trich browning have a bit of a correlation but its not a causation from trich>stigma. they stigma dry up and die not change cannibinoid content. anyway

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Re: first grow nearing harvest

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#536833 - 03/14/11 02:06 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Well just PM me the info and Ill certainly read up. I don't want to continue this in his thread.

Because from what I read man, change in trichomes DO affect the overall pistil appearance.

I value what I read in books and valid internet articles before what others tell me.

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Re: first grow nearing harvest

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#537312 - 03/15/11 11:13 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

thanks for the extensive information guys! have already begun flushing and ive removed most of the fan leaves. they look to be getting closer every single day. i will keep updating.

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Re: first grow nearing harvest

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#538220 - 03/19/11 06:02 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

update 20/3

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Re: first grow nearing harvest

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#538248 - 03/19/11 07:56 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

:trees:

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Re: first grow nearing harvest

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#538281 - 03/19/11 10:01 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Lookin good. :awehigh:

:awehigh:

I would still give her another week

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Re: first grow nearing harvest

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#538335 - 03/20/11 01:32 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

awesome as. i have a bit of a fungus gnat problem; a lot of my buds have quite a few of the little mofo's on them. should i just ignore it and get rid of them once i harvest?

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Re: first grow nearing harvest

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#538347 - 03/20/11 03:08 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

lucas89 said:
awesome as. i have a bit of a fungus gnat problem; a lot of my buds have quite a few of the little mofo's on them. should i just ignore it and get rid of them once i harvest?

it is going to taste like you scraped the bottom of a bug zapper and threw it in your pipe. id try to get rid of them,,

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I bring gloom when I step in the room,
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Re: first grow nearing harvest

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#538352 - 03/20/11 04:42 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

ok. what would be the best way to get rid of them? i dont exactly want to spray my buds with soapy water etc seeing as though im so close to harvest, i was thinking of just doing it the safe but hard way and picking them out once i harvest. would be a bitch of a task though lol.

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Re: first grow nearing harvest

[Re: Dephect]
#538381 - 03/20/11 09:48 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Dephect said:
Well just PM me the info and Ill certainly read up. I don't want to continue this in his thread.

Because from what I read man, change in trichomes DO affect the overall pistil appearance.

I value what I read in books and valid internet articles before what others tell me.

Well then you better buy another book cause trichomes have nothing to do with why the hairs change colors.

What book has this nonsense in it?

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Re: first grow nearing harvest

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#538382 - 03/20/11 10:03 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Dephect said:

As the pistils grow out from the calyx they form resin glands (trichomes), which gradually change in color before they shrink and wither. This withering of the trichomes affects the look of the pistils, which in turn fade and tend to look burn and dry.

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Re: first grow nearing harvest

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#538415 - 03/20/11 12:21 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

At most the trichomes will change the color only slightly because there color has changed and they are on the hairs. Time is the biggest factor in the color change of the hairs and the trichomes. Anybody can figure out that trichomes don't change hair color after growing just one crop with a few different strains in it.

Examples:

All clear trichomes on plants with red hairs.
The picture of the book cover by Ed Rosenthal that I put up down below you can see that the hairs are turning red but what color are the trichomes still? :wink:

:wink:

Now further down it says all the trichomes can take up to 2 weeks for all the trichomes on the plant to change color. Anybody who has grown a plant knows for a fact that this is not true. The first trichomes appear within the first weeks of buds forming and don't change color for 4 to 6 (or longer on certain strains esp Sativa's) weeks cause if they matured in two weeks like he claims then buds would be considered mature at 2 to 4 weeks old.

Then the book is written by a guy named Greg Green. He gets his information from other peoples books and old science studies many of them from the 70's and earlier. He is also very well known for being the guy who use to ask a ton of questions at Overgrow then came out with a book.

I don't claim to be any kind of a expert or any better of a grower then anybody else but I have picked up a few thing along the way considering this is my 25th year under the lights. :flyhigh:

:flyhigh:

The best grow book out right now is

and here is the site for the book when things need to be updated or if you actually want to ask the author a question.

http://mjgrowers.com/home.htm

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Re: first grow nearing harvest

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#538467 - 03/20/11 04:12 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for clearing it up :thumbup:

:thumbup:

I know there are some books I have read that are probably outdated. Its better then the book I read saying that dipping your seeds in estrogen pill solution will increase chances of females :facepalm:

:facepalm:

I have seen amber trichomes on pistils though under a magnifying glass. I now know its not the main reason they turn amber.

But the real thing was the statement that I was trying to clear up;

Quote:

the man said:
dude pistils dont even globe headed trichs. please dont spread misinfo if you dont know morphology thats fine. red hairs are pistils and have no trichs

Edited by Dephect (03/20/11 04:22 PM)

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Re: first grow nearing harvest

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#538470 - 03/20/11 04:38 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

well chicken and egg i guess, i was trying to clear up what you were saying was wrong as pointed out by magash. :smile:

:smile:

aaaanyway movin right along

Cheers

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Re: first grow nearing harvest

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#538537 - 03/20/11 11:24 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

fuck this gnat problem is pretty bad. i hear that this far into flowering getting rid of them can be hard. ive done quite a bit of research but i cant find out how to get rid of them during flowering. the buds are so sticky, and all the little motherfuckers are just getting stuck to them.

how do i get rid of them?

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Re: first grow nearing harvest

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#538546 - 03/20/11 11:33 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

tobacco tea??

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Dephect

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Re: first grow nearing harvest

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#538568 - 03/20/11 11:53 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Fungus Gnats? Little fruit fly looking things?

If its a container plant you can use Beneficial Nematodes. Make sure you keep it damp. I don't know if mosquito dunks will influence your final products taste (I haven't heard of it), but that is another option. Just crush it up over your plants base and it will work. You can also use neem oil as a soil additive. Do not apply it as a foliar spray since you are so far in flowering. Neem oil can be used as a soil additive up until flush, I don't know dilution rates but you can find them somewhere.

I would honestly brave it out for the next 1-2 weeks.

Its not the flies that you have to worry about they don't do much damage to the plant, its their larvae they lay that eat your roots.

I have smoked some bud that probably had some spider mites :shrug:

:shrug:

Still got me super ripped and tasted the same.

Edited by Dephect (03/20/11 11:58 PM)

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Re: first grow nearing harvest

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#538591 - 03/21/11 12:46 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

im not real concerned about the larvae atm seeing as though ive only got about a week to go. my only concern is my buds being covered with gnats.

anyway, i covered the top of my pot with foil, i heard that this will prevent them from turning into adults and also eventually kill the larvae. i also put a few dishes of balsamic vinegar around my plants. i heard the adults are attracted to it. as for my buds being covered in them, i clipped off a little nug just before, and they seem really easy to just pick off with tweezers. so i dont think its going to be too big of a problem.

just going to be a pain in the arse picking them off thats all lol.

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Re: first grow nearing harvest

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#538601 - 03/21/11 01:11 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Sounds like your good to go :thumbup:

:thumbup:

Have fun picking them gnats off.

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Re: first grow nearing harvest

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#538603 - 03/21/11 01:14 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

lol clipping is horribly boring enough as it is, i sure wont have fun considering the god damn gnats :frown:

:frown:

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Re: first grow nearing harvest

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#538604 - 03/21/11 01:16 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

I love trimming.

Its not boring, its a art :wink:

:wink:

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Re: first grow nearing harvest

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#538608 - 03/21/11 01:33 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Dephect said:
I love trimming.

Its not boring, its a art

I take it you've never had to trim more than a couple oz's at a time? I had a guy I'd get mine from that hardly ever trimmed anything. I'd sit there for hours, me and my girl, trimming already dried and cured buds... Man, I won't say I don't like it, but it is definitely boring after the first couple hours!

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Re: first grow nearing harvest

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#538610 - 03/21/11 01:42 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

well yeah thats what i mean, its fun for the first hour or so then its.... fuck it have a cone :vaped:

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#538611 - 03/21/11 02:05 AM (13 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Tank333 said:
Quote:

Dephect said:
I love trimming.

Its not boring, its a art

I take it you've never had to trim more than a couple oz's at a time? I had a guy I'd get mine from that hardly ever trimmed anything. I'd sit there for hours, me and my girl, trimming already dried and cured buds... Man, I won't say I don't like it, but it is definitely boring after the first couple hours!

I guess its just the serenity of the task. If it gets boring then take a break. If I get in a comfy chair though I can go for hours.

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Re: first grow nearing harvest

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#539331 - 03/23/11 06:20 PM (13 years, 9 months ago)

One thing you can do for the gnats is to add about a half inch of sand to the top of your soil... this prevents adults from laying eggs and can trap the larvae...

The vinegar sounds good, also sticky traps work pretty good on them... they have a short life cycle so if you do the above mentioned they should be getting sparse pretty quick.

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#539906 - 03/25/11 03:04 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

25/3

so i took off a little nug a few days ago and tried it out yesterday... first time smoking in about a month. and it got me absolubetely ripped!

anyway, here is another nug i picked today.

i heard that leaving plants inside in darkness for the last 36-48 hours can end up making the plant slightly stronger. and if it doesnt im pretty sure it wont do it any harm anyway. will it be ready it 2 days? opinions please!

once again, i thank you all for your help. the growery and the shroomery sure are awesome places with great helpful people!

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Re: first grow nearing harvest

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#539979 - 03/25/11 11:43 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Looking nice :wink:

:wink:

Glad you waited.

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#540115 - 03/25/11 06:49 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

awesome! just to clarify; shall i rip within the next day or so?

also, once this plant is out of the way i have a few little ones that are getting close, id say 2 or so weeks away and one afghan kush plant that has a while to go. ill post them soon. i think i planted the afghan kush too late... planted her in december, so she didnt veg for long enough and flowered too soon, shes only about 3ft tall :frown:

:frown:

. but im not complaining seeing as though its my first grow, and everything came out female and all the buds look really dank :vaped:

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#541873 - 03/31/11 10:18 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Looks good. :thumbup:

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