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 perosiste
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 Re: HID lights DON'T use a lot of power!  [Re: captain.koons]
#194834 - 02/11/09 06:31 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Honda makes some really good and quiet gas generators.
Alot of times I have been able to run these inside (accounting for exhaust ducting) without anyone noticing.
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 Psilomind2
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Re: HID lights DON'T use a lot of power! [Re: Chronica]
#196054 - 02/14/09 07:12 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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This is what the transformer is for, it supplies the power to the bulb. HID's use far less power than regular lights and produce many times more lumens. Almost every transformer is a "multi-tap", you can check this by looking at the wiring on the transformer. If it is a multi tap you will see the 120v lead being used and usually 3 others capped off. These are for higher voltages, they are labled right on the wire so if you have a 220,240,277,480 etc outlet available, check and see if your transformer has that lead, then follow the wiring diagram on the transformer to hook that up properly. The benefit of using the higher voltage leads is faster warm up and yes, less resistance and heat on your homes wiring. Any extra safety is worth it.
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BulkBread
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Re: HID lights DON'T use a lot of power! [Re: Hanky]
#202940 - 03/04/09 02:32 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Hanky said:
I'm constantly seeing posts where people are scared to get or run a HID light because they think it'll use massive amounts of power.
Compare a 400w or 600w light to the following items in your home.
Clothes dryer or electric oven... 5000w
Medium sized window mounted AC unit... 900w
Full ducted AC... 3500w
Electric water heater... 3800w
Toaster or microwave oven... 1500w
Coffee maker... 900w
PC with 17inch CRT monitor... 240w
xbox 360... 165w
But running it 12/24 hours a day, also it goes by amps, not watts. With a 600W setup it would cost a lot....
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Dr. Penguin
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Re: HID lights DON'T use a lot of power! [Re: BulkBread]
#203242 - 03/05/09 09:04 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Amps are included in the calculation for watts (W(watts)=A(amps)*V(voltage)) so a 600w light uses 5.45A. Lets see how much that would cost to run 24 hours per day...
Now I don't know what you're talking about when you say 'it goes by amps, not watts' because if you've ever paid for your own electricity you would know that it is charged by the kilowatt-hour (KW*h). A 600w lamp run 24 hours a day = 14.4KW*h per day. Around me the cost for a KW*h is about .07$ so it costs me almost exactly 1$ per day to run my light 24h; or .50$ per day when in flower. So if I say a standard grow is 3 months (1 veg 2 flower) the cost of lighting my entire grow with a single 600w light is about 60$. I don't know about you but 60$ is nothing when I pull some top quality ganja out of my closet... Priceless
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ethnoguy
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Re: HID lights DON'T use a lot of power! [Re: Dr. Penguin]
#203260 - 03/05/09 10:25 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Exactly.
I have a suggestion: lock this thread and add a link in the power consumption sticky by coda. This thing needs to die already.
EG
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Cuban Strain
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Re: HID lights DON'T use a lot of power! [Re: Chronica]
#209066 - 03/26/09 04:54 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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What about fear of infrared radars from choppers? from all of you opinions I can see that a 400w or 600w is nothing, but what about the heat it produces? I live right behind a hwy that has 1000w along the road, and there are about 10 choppers a day that fly by. Is it too risky?
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ethnoguy
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Re: HID lights DON'T use a lot of power! [Re: Cuban Strain]
#209079 - 03/26/09 09:08 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Just run the lights when its daylight outside, and have them off for the coolest part of the night. They aren't going to catch someone with a couple of lights IMO. You are at least going to need a good bit of heat. They are suppose to have a warrant to do this, but we know how that works. If they can get a warrant is is probably going to be a search warrant. Why would they spend all that money on personal grows?
EG
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bnutz
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Re: HID lights DON'T use a lot of power! [Re: ethnoguy]
#240052 - 06/15/09 11:51 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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ronjohn7779
Registered: 02/01/09
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Re: HID lights DON'T use a lot of power! [Re: bnutz]
#240086 - 06/16/09 09:19 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
bnutz said:
http://michaelbluejay.com/electricity/howmuch.html this should tell you how much shit cost.
Yup that's a legit source of info too. This guy is a mathematical gambling god his good friends with the wizard of odds (the mathematical gambling god).
Nice link man!
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4747
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Re: HID lights DON'T use a lot of power! [Re: Chronica]
#240964 - 06/18/09 09:30 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Chronica said:
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Full ducted AC... 3500w
The HPS's Heat will be turning this on.
eh 
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ethnoguy
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Re: HID lights DON'T use a lot of power! [Re: 4747]
#240967 - 06/18/09 09:35 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
4747 said:
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Chronica said:
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Full ducted AC... 3500w
The HPS's Heat will be turning this on.
eh
Didn't you hear? 400W equals 400 degrees.....Celsius. 
EG
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Buddy
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Re: HID lights DON'T use a lot of power! [Re: Hanky]
#245079 - 07/01/09 07:55 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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I completely agree with you. I'm set on getting a cheap HPS maybe 175W or 250w to flower stinky. I'm thinking 50 squid will do it on ebay, make a reflector and wuallah. Even if it meant a reasonable increase in flower production, you could sell a bit to your friends and pay for the leccy bill.
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Buddy
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Re: HID lights DON'T use a lot of power! [Re: Dr. Penguin]
#245092 - 07/01/09 08:46 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Dr. Penguin said:Around me the cost for a KW*h is about .07$
In Ireland, electricity costs 16 c for a Kilowatt hour. That's over twice what you're paying. How's that fair? Is your leccy generated in a nuclear power station?
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supersiege
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Re: HID lights DON'T use a lot of power! [Re: Chronica]
#255410 - 07/26/09 11:10 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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heres how to do it we'll do 400 watts for example so first 400 x 12 hrs is 4800 or 4.8 kilowatts of energy per day so 4.8 times 30days is 144 kilwatts per month so take that and multiply it by how much your energy company charges per kilowatt hour and there you have it so the formula is (watts)x(hours perday)=Daily consumption
(Daily Consumption). divided by (1000)= kilowatts per day used
(kwatts per day) x (30 days) = monthly power usage
(monthly power usage) x (electric companys energy cost)= price to use light per month
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Buddy
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Re: HID lights DON'T use a lot of power! [Re: supersiege]
#255411 - 07/26/09 11:13 AM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just invested in a 400W HPS/MH switchable. It's a bit high powered for what I want. But I'll do a bigger grow next time to get something near efficient use out of it. Testing it out to see how hot it gets now.
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supersiege
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Re: HID lights DON'T use a lot of power! *DELETED* [Re: Chronica]
#255440 - 07/26/09 12:23 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Buddy
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Re: HID lights DON'T use a lot of power! [Re: supersiege]
#255466 - 07/26/09 01:33 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm not confused about figuring out how much electricity costs. I was only saying I've bought a light. Seeing as I'm all excited about putting it to use.
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Buddy
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Re: HID lights DON'T use a lot of power! [Re: Buddy]
#255467 - 07/26/09 01:34 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Why did you post the exact same post twice?
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supersiege
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Re: HID lights DON'T use a lot of power! [Re: Buddy]
#255494 - 07/26/09 02:09 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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i dunno did it on its own i guess lol
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FurrowedBrow
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Re: HID lights DON'T use a lot of power! [Re: supersiege]
#255535 - 07/26/09 02:43 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Welcome to the growery supersiege! HID lights are great. it's like having a really good pressure cooker.
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