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 Oatman2000
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 cheap vs expensive hps bulbs? 
#496557 - 11/09/10 06:08 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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what's the difference between the $60 1000w bulb and the $130 1000w bulb.
is it just for the grow portion and not bloom? they are bot multi spectrum bulbs????
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 CrayolaHalls
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Re: cheap vs expensive hps bulbs? [Re: Oatman2000]
#496600 - 11/09/10 11:57 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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You are going to need to provide manufacturer names and model numbers. Manufacturer name alone is not enough, since most make multiple versions of HID lamps.
Without providing those details the only difference you can be sure of is the price.
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Oatman2000
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Re: cheap vs expensive hps bulbs? [Re: CrayolaHalls]
#496614 - 11/09/10 12:46 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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awesome. I will provide details later tonight. I took pics of both the spectrum from the box.
I bought a $130 hortilux 1000w and am using it as a go off of bulb.
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Building a flood table out of 2 kiddie pools
Ebb and Gro - Buckets 2000w
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Oatman2000
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Re: cheap vs expensive hps bulbs? [Re: Oatman2000]
#496689 - 11/09/10 05:01 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ok product I bought
HORTILUX
EYE Series
LU1000B/HTL/EN
1000 WATT
(use only with Ballast for ANSI S52 Lamps) - I don't know what this is?
-Next to the comparison for $69
-Comparing the two spectrums
$130 on Left $69 on Right
The cheaper one gives a life on the box of 24,000+ hours. The one I bought does not give a lifespan. Doing internet research to see what the prices are online for this type of bulb.
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Spawning to COIR
Building a flood table out of 2 kiddie pools
Ebb and Gro - Buckets 2000w
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Oatman2000
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Re: cheap vs expensive hps bulbs? [Re: Oatman2000]
#496694 - 11/09/10 05:13 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Local Store: $130
Online: $70.91
Brand: EYE Lighting
Part Number: 66785
Shape: E25
Bulb Details
Wattage: 1000 watts
Color Temperature: 2100 Kelvin
Color Rendering Index (CRI): 26
Average Life: 24000 hours
Lumens (Initial) 145,000
**Added Life hours and Initial Lumens for this bulb
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Local shop: $69
Online:$32 found a case of 12 on a site for = $358.80
UltraSun 1000W HPS Grow Lamp
* Operates on 1000W HPS ballast
* Universal operating position
* High output 140,000 initial lumens for flowering and fruiting growth
* Operates on magnetic and electronic ballasts
* E25 bulb shape with E39 mogul base
* 1-year lamp warranty
I see the difference in findings being one displays in Kelvin and the other displays in Lumens. From what I hear so far... Lumen count is the way of telling them apart?? Anyone?
-Okay, a little edit of this post, but the difference is 5,000 initial lumens and the spectrum which is pictured above.
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Building a flood table out of 2 kiddie pools
Ebb and Gro - Buckets 2000w
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Edited by Oatman2000 (11/09/10 05:16 PM)
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Re: cheap vs expensive hps bulbs? *DELETED* [Re: Oatman2000]
#497055 - 11/11/10 08:54 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oatman2000
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i like your post, anyone else like to chime in?
I found a case of 12 of those cheaper one's for like $350 online
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Building a flood table out of 2 kiddie pools
Ebb and Gro - Buckets 2000w
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Goombah
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Quote:
lampshadehelmet said:
I worry more about the lumens than spectrum and replace my bulbs often.
Lumens are important but spectrum is too - you wouldn't deprive your lovies of nitrogen or other nutrients. You need the right spectrum for chlorophyll production and plant metabolism.
The spikes show where optimum growth is going to occur. Thats why you need lights that cover the blues and reds. Blue is optimum for veg and red for flowering.
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grogan
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Re: cheap vs expensive hps bulbs? [Re: Goombah]
#497567 - 11/13/10 01:26 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Oatman I will provide some insight.. (more christmas TC's please lol)
Cheap HPS bulbs are cheaper, and may not offer as broad of a spectrum range for your plants, however this is not true for all of them, I would suggest comparing the spectrum charts to a well known one that is contoured to horticultural use. ( Eye Hotrilux as you have displayed is a good choice) A cheap bulb can still be a good choice ( I have had great results from sunleaves brand hps bulbs) as long as its made for plants 
I am currently using a 600w hortilux, and previously had been running a sylvania (I think). I am not able to give a full conclusion on the comparision as I have only one grow almost done with the hortilux, however I can say the old bulb was great for the price.
As a few side notes, you may want to consider PAR, instead of just lumens.
Lumen count is the power of light perceived by the human eye.
This important to note, because plants don't have human eyes!
PAR is what you are looking for, which means Photosynthetically Active Radiation.
PAR is used in agriculture, forestry and oceanography.
The range is 400-700nm.
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