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Re: any of you believe in god? [Re: Mr. Kite]
#457707 - 08/10/10 01:39 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Mr. Kite said: Gravity is scientific law not a theory. There is a difference, I shall post the information soon. Off to google.
The theory of Gravity will always be a theory until we understand how gravity works.
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Re: any of you believe in god? [Re: Mr. Kite]
#457711 - 08/10/10 01:41 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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You are wrong on so many levels
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Re: any of you beleive in god? [Re: THEBats]
#460195 - 08/14/10 04:48 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: any of you believe in god? [Re: THEBats]
#460885 - 08/15/10 06:09 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Now let's get back to an intelligent argument about religion
Isn't that an oxymoron
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A Girl said: i just think everyone has their own set of beliefs. i dont think i was talking about religion....i was just saying that you can't ever prove anything about God's existence so believing is trusting and so forth without any evidence
A set of beliefs regarding God is religion.
My whole spin on God and consciousness = what we perceive as 'god' is just the next level of consciousness
"God" in the Judea-Christian religions does not exist IMO
When we feel god isn't the creator of the universe....its just Gaia
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Re: any of you believe in god? [Re: kyuzo]
#461181 - 08/16/10 12:37 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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I believe that all you need is some form of ritual associated with your god for it to be a religion
not real sure about that though
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Re: any of you believe in god? [Re: kyuzo]
#461398 - 08/16/10 02:08 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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THEBats said: A set of beliefs regarding God is religion.
Wouldn't that set of beliefs need to be more systematic? In fact looking at Websters they seem to confirm: all the definitions deal with systematic belief in a god, or gods, accompanied by worship, ethics, etc
Most definitions regarding the subject are not set in stone.
Of course definitions change over time. However, yours seemed overly broad and useless.
Overly broad and useless.....kinda like religion
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religion - 5 dictionary results re·li·gion /rɪˈlɪdʒən/ Show Spelled[ri-lij-uhn] Show IPA –noun
1.a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2.a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3.the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.
4.the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.
5.the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.
6.something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience: to make a religion of fighting prejudice.
7.religions, Archaic . religious rites.
8.Archaic . strict faithfulness; devotion: a religion to one's vow.
Thats a pretty broad definition
So saying that A set of beliefs regarding God is religion is a pretty spot on short definition of religion
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Re: any of you believe in god? [Re: kyuzo]
#461422 - 08/16/10 02:26 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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lol you left out especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies
You cant have a religion without god
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Re: any of you believe in god? [Re: King Koopa]
#461425 - 08/16/10 02:27 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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King Koopa said: You can't have god without religion and religion can be found without god.
You have that all backwards mate
you cant have a religion without a god but you can believe in a god without a religion
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Re: any of you believe in god? [Re: kyuzo]
#461441 - 08/16/10 02:46 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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I do not believe that god created the universe its just another part of creation, not something to be worshiped
no need for religion with a god like that
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Re: any of you believe in god? [Re: King Koopa]
#461453 - 08/16/10 02:57 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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A set of moral guidelines is NOT religion
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Re: any of you believe in god? [Re: kyuzo]
#461470 - 08/16/10 03:06 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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King Koopa said: It's a part of religion. The same way the 10 commandments are. Even if the 10 commandments were apart of my moral code and not the Christians, it'll still be a part of my religion.
Ethics and morals are a part of many things is the US constitution a religion.....I think not
but just because someone has ethics/morals does not mean they are part of a religion
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kyuzo said: You seem to be confusing religion for ethics and morals
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