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fungi
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Roots Excelurator, awesome product
#445705 - 07/12/10 11:35 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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I had some freshly rooted clones in rockwool cubes, threw them in 2 gallon soil pots and applied a light dose of this for after the initial watering. Them seem to have grown faster then clones without this product.
If anything works, I think this product actually does something. Also I'm using Fox Farms Ocean Forest and Happy Frog soil. I've found that you do not want to use nutrients, or you have to be very careful with what you use regarding Fox Farms Ocean Forest soil. It already has lots of nutrients so maybe someone can enlighten me on what the plants actually need.
I have the General Hydroponics line of organic nutrients; BioThrive http://www.generalhydroponics.com/genhydro_US/biothrive.html?PHPSESSID=0ca7f891e73f1c47c591c4b991181f43 I read on Fox Farms website that their Ocean Forest Soil has nitrogen in it already. I'm really clueless on what I should be adding to feed.
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: Roots Excelurator, awesome product [Re: fungi]
#445706 - 07/12/10 11:41 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yep, I used Roots Excelurator on my last grow and I'll never grow without it again. I wish it wasn't so damn expensive, but man it really does the trick. The roots in my bucket were so thick I couldn't even poke my finger into the soil
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: Roots Excelurator, awesome product [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#445732 - 07/13/10 12:27 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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I use it as well, wonderful product. Like Harry said, expensivo, but well worth the money.
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Lucid
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Re: Roots Excelurator, awesome product [Re: fungi]
#445767 - 07/13/10 07:02 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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fungi said: I had some freshly rooted clones in rockwool cubes, threw them in 2 gallon soil pots and applied a light dose of this for after the initial watering. Them seem to have grown faster then clones without this product.
If anything works, I think this product actually does something. Also I'm using Fox Farms Ocean Forest and Happy Frog soil. I've found that you do not want to use nutrients, or you have to be very careful with what you use regarding Fox Farms Ocean Forest soil. It already has lots of nutrients so maybe someone can enlighten me on what the plants actually need.
I have the General Hydroponics line of organic nutrients; BioThrive http://www.generalhydroponics.com/genhydro_US/biothrive.html?PHPSESSID=0ca7f891e73f1c47c591c4b991181f43 I read on Fox Farms website that their Ocean Forest Soil has nitrogen in it already. I'm really clueless on what I should be adding to feed.
I use fox farm ocean forest soil and I using GH Flora nova veg and bloom at same levels as any other soil grower. Not sure what you mean by you have to be careful when using nutes with this soil? where did you get that info?
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Jeff Funk
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Re: Roots Excelurator, awesome product [Re: Lucid]
#445794 - 07/13/10 09:18 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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I was wondering how this stuff is, the new hydro shop owner in town gave me 3 pints of it for free. I guess it's another one of those products he just doesn't like. He told me to test it out, and if I like it he has something better that I will definately like. When's the best time to use the Root Excelurator? Just during the cloning stage, or throughout veg also?
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kyuzo
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Re: Roots Excelurator, awesome product [Re: Jeff Funk]
#445799 - 07/13/10 09:24 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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I wonder if it's just vitamin solution with NAA in it?
Any useful info on the label?
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Jeff Funk
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Re: Roots Excelurator, awesome product [Re: kyuzo]
#445802 - 07/13/10 09:39 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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well the bottles he gave me I think were for promotional use or something. It has a different label
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: Roots Excelurator, awesome product [Re: Jeff Funk]
#445804 - 07/13/10 09:43 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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wait seriously, three PINTS of it for free? Are you sure we're talking about the same product here? That's literally like $600 worth of this product, how the hell did you score that deal? Oh and also,
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Jeff Funk
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Re: Roots Excelurator, awesome product [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#445809 - 07/13/10 09:51 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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We just had a conversation about how he hated flora nova, and he was just walking me around the store bs'ing and he brought up root excelurator. I told him I never used it, and about 20mins later when I was checking out he goes "you remember the root excelurator I was telling you about? Take these let me know if you like it" Since I'm growing out my moms for my upcoming journal, I haven't needed them yet. They've just been chilling. I thought it was just crap since he gave me 3 bottles. Not until recently I've found that a lot of growers are using it. So in about 2-3 weeks when I cut clones I'll give it a try. Also it says you shouldn't use an airstone in your reservoir. I'm not using a stone but I do grow using aeroponics. Will this screw up the stability of the solution?
Oh yeah Harry was that in your message meant for me?
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Edited by Jeff Funk (07/13/10 09:54 AM)
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: Roots Excelurator, awesome product [Re: Jeff Funk]
#445811 - 07/13/10 09:54 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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I got terrible algae problems when I tried using it in Aeroponics
But seriously, he just gave you like $600 worth of this shit for free? send some this way homie
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Jeff Funk
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Re: Roots Excelurator, awesome product [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#445813 - 07/13/10 09:59 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Actually now that I looked at the bottle there probably more like half pint bottles maybe a little smaller. But it still looks like a decent amount. The bottle says it's by House and Garden use 1.1ml per gallon. Does that sound like the right stuff?
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: Roots Excelurator, awesome product [Re: Jeff Funk]
#445863 - 07/13/10 11:09 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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yep definitely. Little aluminum bottles? 250ml each? Those retail for about $80 each
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Jeff Funk
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Re: Roots Excelurator, awesome product [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#445875 - 07/13/10 11:17 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yea these gotta be promo bottles sent to retailers. they are little glass umber colored bottles with droppers attached about 6-8oz
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: Roots Excelurator, awesome product [Re: Jeff Funk]
#445877 - 07/13/10 11:24 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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weird. You should mail one this way so I can inspect it
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Jeff Funk
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Re: Roots Excelurator, awesome product [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#445918 - 07/13/10 01:17 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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lol. shoot me a pm and I'll send you one.
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coda
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Re: Roots Excelurator, awesome product [Re: Jeff Funk]
#445987 - 07/13/10 04:31 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Weird, never saw the Excelurator in a glass vial. Always those shiny aluminum ones. I'm gonna give this stuff a go when I do my next clone run. I'll plop down the 60 bucks on the small bottle to check it out, wouldn't dare drop the 100$ the hydro store wanted for a slightly larger bottle. That amount of money would give me enough nutes to last an entire year lol.
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: Roots Excelurator, awesome product [Re: coda]
#446010 - 07/13/10 05:27 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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I hesitated investing the money into it at first as well. But it was WAY worth the price. You wont regret it.
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Jeff Funk
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I wish I could personally give it a try, but I'm an aeroponic grower. I guess I could try it out in a seedling try the next time I cut clones. Otherwise I'm giving them to a buddy, and sending one to Harry if he hits me up. Do you guys know of any good rooting products that can be used in aero/hydroponic setups?
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coda
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Re: Roots Excelurator, awesome product [Re: Jeff Funk]
#446357 - 07/14/10 04:52 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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You could always supplement the water supply with a B1 additive like super thrive or thrive alive. I'd say you could probably even use the roots excelurator (god i fucking HATE how that's spelled) in an aero system as well.
I'm planning on using it pretty much just for cloning. If it can help shave days off my cloning cycle I'll be a believer for life.
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: Roots Excelurator, awesome product [Re: coda]
#446359 - 07/14/10 04:56 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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I haven't used it for cloning. You should report back here and let us know how it worked. In soil grows it's the shit
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coda
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I figured I'd soak my rooting cubes in a solution of Roots Excelurator and see if that helped any. That's actually how I first heard about this product.
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Jeff Funk
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Re: Roots Excelurator, awesome product [Re: coda]
#446433 - 07/14/10 08:23 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah I was gonna try that method but I really hate using cubes. I guess that's the only choice I have since the hydro guy, and Houuse and Garden website says not to use it in aerated systems. Plus I guess I can use up all the Root Riot cubes I have chilling in ziplocks taking up space. I kinda can't wait to give it a whirl. Coda let us know how it works out.
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coda
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Re: Roots Excelurator, awesome product [Re: Jeff Funk]
#446486 - 07/14/10 10:04 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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It will be a while before I can test it out, but when I do I'll make a thread about it. Interesting that it can't be used in an aero system, wonder why.
I tried out those root riot cubes and they worked out pretty well. I liked them a little more then the peat pellets because the medium comes into better contact with the stem. They were a little unstable in my tray though and had a tendency to tip if I jostled the cloning chamber too much. Other then that they were pretty easy to work with and gave me some good results.
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Re: Roots Excelurator, awesome product [Re: Jeff Funk]
#446490 - 07/14/10 10:07 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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I use it as well, wonderful product.
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Yep, I used Roots Excelurator on my last grow and I'll never grow without it again. The roots in my bucket were so thick I couldn't even poke my finger into the soil.
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Them seem to have grown faster then clones without this product. If anything works, I think this product actually does something.
jeff funk are all these other peoples words not enough? i know harrys reliable and hawks too, i bet fungi is too obviously it works good man just read
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SmOakland
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What is it? Is it the same as B vitamin stuff?
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Jeff Funk
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Re: Roots Excelurator, awesome product [Re: SmOakland]
#446862 - 07/15/10 10:18 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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jeff funk are all these other peoples words not enough? i know harrys reliable and hawks too, i bet fungi is too obviously it works good man just read
Hey cicken maybe if you took time to read you would know that it can't be used in hydro or aeroponics. Both methods in which "I" use to grow. And trust me I know who's reliable on the board, so when I need tips on phototron growing I'll shoot you a pm. Not trying to be a dick or anything.
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: Roots Excelurator, awesome product [Re: Jeff Funk]
#446863 - 07/15/10 10:24 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Jeff Funk said: so when I need tips on phototron growing I'll shoot you a pm.
Oh fucking Lolzies.
But for the record, I used RE in Hempy and coco, both of which are considered hydro. Just don't use it in nutrient immersion systems like NFT, DWC or aero
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Jeff Funk
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Re: Roots Excelurator, awesome product [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#446865 - 07/15/10 10:27 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks Harry. I predominately use aeroponics, so I'm gonna steer clear of using it myself. Just wondering what some other people were using as root stimulator's in their aero setups.
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maryanne3087
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Re: Roots Excelurator, awesome product [Re: Jeff Funk]
#447096 - 07/16/10 12:58 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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pics of your aero unit? Did you use plans off the internet or a purchased unit? I'm amazed at how many homemade units there are!
I know a guy who made a stink buddies unit and said it maximized his yield which is important for him because he is a registered grower for Health Canada. It really seems like hydro is spreading like a disease it's more and more understood, getting more and more simplified, it's no longer taboo!
I even thought indoor growing was nonsense until a few years ago. I still believe it is, I can grow outdoors enough weed to last me the year and have even developed a system to trade on credit with my friends so I have their fresh buds during the off season.
Works like a charm
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fungi
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Re: Roots Excelurator, awesome product [Re: maryanne3087]
#447153 - 07/16/10 03:35 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'll try it for the clones on rockwool cubes before I flower these babies; if you goto grow journals, you can see the plants.
In fact I'll do half the clones with Roots Execelurator and have the roots with Clonex and see which one wins?
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: Roots Excelurator, awesome product [Re: fungi]
#447278 - 07/16/10 10:10 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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no you should give them both clonex because RE is NOT a cloning hormone. That just wouldn't be a fair test. Basically just clone them all normally until they're well rooted, then apply RE to half of them and watch the progress from there
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Jeff Funk
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Re: Roots Excelurator, awesome product [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#447407 - 07/17/10 07:37 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Did you use plans off the internet or a purchased unit?
I've been messing around with homemade syatems for like the past 10yrs. I use a stinkbud style setup with a modifications I found to work better.
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I even thought indoor growing was nonsense until a few years ago. I still believe it is
Well I don't believe that at all. Here where it's cold most of the year, I would only get one crop a year. And I don't have all summer to wait for just one crop. I may do an outdoor grow next year, but even then unless it's very well hidden the helicopters spot most grows.
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maryanne3087
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Re: Roots Excelurator, awesome product [Re: Jeff Funk]
#447416 - 07/17/10 08:20 AM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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Do you have an accurate idea of how many outdoor grows get busted where you live? Having lived in British Columbia which is notorious for fly over helicopters I'd say the most they get is 1/4-1/3 of the big grows. Small plots are nearly never looked into by law enforcement unless they're very close together at least that's the policy in BC.
What modifications have you made to the Stink Buddy unit? Any pictures? I thought the setup I saw was amazing it was more or less exactly as instructed online.
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Jeff Funk
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Re: Roots Excelurator, awesome product [Re: maryanne3087]
#447714 - 07/17/10 10:04 PM (14 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have no accurate idea as of how many, but from talking to my ex-girlfriends dad a few years back who worked in TNU for the state police he would talk about it all the time. But I didn't wanna get into all the details at that particular time. Come to think of it I never ask for too many details. Weed busts always come up as a topic of discussion amongst cops. Whenever I mod one of their little kids wii's it just comes up. Besides around here indoor grows are just common. And me being a cardholder, outdoor grows is something I just wouldn't rely on for many different reasons.
All modifications are minor like measurements, for the down spout that goes into the reservoir I use flexible tubing instead of PVC pipe. I found it be a lot easier when it comes time to switch out the nutes. Some systems I added holes to see if I could fit more plants in without affecting the yield of the original 6 or 14 plants he uses in his setups. I've used wide PVC pipe instead of the fence posts he uses to hold the 2in pots. PVC has so many different connectors you can use to connect pipes. Where with the fence posts you are kinda limited. Mostly simple stuff like stated before. I used his plans as a base, and take the size and shape of the grow room I'm working with into consideration. My new room is smaller, and systems are basic with just the minor mods as stated above. Pics will be up in a few weeks when I start my White Widow and Kings Kush grow log.
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Do you have an accurate idea of how many outdoor grows get busted where you live?
I'll try to get that info next time.
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Edited by Jeff Funk (07/17/10 10:10 PM)
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