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Sirius
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Re: DIY Carbon Scrubber (moved) [Re: Evan]
#43558 - 05/30/08 03:08 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Evan said: Fuck Walmart, I won't shop there, plus I live in the mountains and our very little town voted against ruining the local economy with another god damn wallyworld competing against mom and pop shops.
Ruining the local economy means not having the goods you want to purchase available to you? 
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Walmart has turned so many small towns into ghost towns.
Probably not, but its neither here nor there as far as this thread is concerned.
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Re: DIY Carbon Scrubber (moved) [Re: Evan]
#44194 - 05/31/08 11:17 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Evan said: Yes, I live in a town of under 10,000 people and probably 50% are retired and the others commute very far to go to work. If a walmart enters and these Mom and Pop stores which make up my town can't compete, which they obviously can't, that means that when they go out of business the people who work there have no job and the only place in town is Wal-mart.
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because we chose to live in the mountains to not be near walmarts and all the bullshit that comes along with american consumer culture. We just want to chill in the mountains.
There is nothing wrong with preferring that one's local commerce stays with smaller, locally-owned stores, or with preferring that a big-box store and that which comes along with it remains out of one's town for aesthetic or any other reason, but the idea that a Wal*Mart or any other large, commercially-owned store is bad for local economy is false. One opening up might change the dynamics of the local economy, such that smaller businesses unable to compete go out of business, but that doesn't mean it is negative for the local economy itself. Once again, whether or not those kinds of changes to the dynamics and nature of the local economy is preferable is an entirely different manner, but the idea that it wouldn't be good for the local economy itself is false. These stores hire people as well and pay a lot of local taxes.
I'll move this section into its own thread in the off-topic forum so as to not interrupt the on-topicness any longer.
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Sirius
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Re: DIY Carbon Scrubber (moved) [Re: Evan]
#44713 - 06/01/08 03:06 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Evan said: My town has survived on small businesses for over 75 years if all the small businesses go out of business how is that not bad for the local economy. everything else would close down and walmart would be left standing. The new dynamic would be walmart in the mountains with a bunch of poor fools.
How many small businesses in this area would actually face competition from Wal*Mart, and how many people do they employ? Your idea of Wal*Mart coming in and everything else vanishing and only a bunch of poor fools left is quite the gross exaggeration.
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Re: DIY Carbon Scrubber (moved) [Re: highasfuck]
#44714 - 06/01/08 03:07 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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highasfuck said: Theyre putting alot of people out of business. Thats the big deal. Doesnt effect the consumer but if effects the average joe looking for a job.
Wal*Mart accounts for 10% of all non-automotive retail sales. Where are all of these people going out of business?
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Re: DIY Carbon Scrubber (moved) [Re: kidaihuan]
#45499 - 06/01/08 05:39 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Obviously, but it isn't as if other businesses are dying from the plague. You still haven't suggested why its so horrible that one business would be more successful than another business. You were living in a fantasy land earlier, saying that Wal*Mart only hires enough people to do the work they need done and will only pay as much as they need to pay in order to keep that many people working there, while suggesting that these small businesses go the opposite way - which, logically, would be hiring as many people as they can and paying them as much as they can. Of course, this obviously isn't true, and if it were, its no wonder they went out of business because they wouldn't know how to run a business.
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Re: DIY Carbon Scrubber (moved) [Re: kidaihuan]
#45547 - 06/01/08 05:45 AM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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kidaihuan said: The small shops, also, take the money they make and since the owners live locally, all of the money goes back into the local economy. However with Walmart, a lot of the profit leaves the local economy and goes elsewhere to the owners.
Actually, most of the profit that one store generates covers the cost of the operations of the company which sets the stage for the store to do business. Any profit the company collectively generates is only due to the fact that there are thousands of stores, and this profit margin is pretty slim compared to other corporations. Any profit that the owner of a local business ( a truly local business where the guy actually lives there) is probably not that large to begin with. The savings on consumer items is passed along to the consumer, who lives in the locality, as well as the income all of the workers generate, which is taxed, not to mention the other taxes the company would have to pay for the store. You also asserted that the combination of smaller businesses which would close due to Wal*Mart would equate into the same amount of taxes being paid, but I doubt this is true.
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Re: DIY Carbon Scrubber (moved) [Re: kidaihuan]
#47840 - 06/01/08 12:56 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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kidaihuan said: So you are saying Wal+Mart is better because you advocate paying more taxes to the government?

Fund the drug war!
I appreciate your attempt at honest discussion.
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Re: Wal*Mart [Re: Sativus]
#48098 - 06/01/08 06:16 PM (16 years, 9 months ago) |
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Sativus said: The thing is, Walmart just hires enough people that they can have everyone work less than fulltime. They refuse to let employees work fulltime if at all possible.
Source?
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