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OfflineDungenessDank
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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: DungenessDank]
    #430256 - 06/09/10 09:30 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

The main problem here is that the dispersant will help the oil break down into the environment FASTER than if they had left it as a slick. Before long we will be seeing microscopic amounts of oil making their way up the food web to humans for decades to come.

Its basically poison to every living thing on the planet. Just because it doesn't look like its there, doesn't mean that its not gonna ALL be here for the next 30-50 years.

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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: DungenessDank]
    #430257 - 06/09/10 09:32 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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DungenessDank said:
The main problem here is that the dispersant will help the oil break down into the environment FASTER than if they had left it as a slick. Before long we will be seeing microscopic amounts of oil making their way up the food web to humans for decades to come.

Its basically poison to every living thing on the planet. Just because it doesn't look like its there, doesn't mean that its not gonna ALL be here for the next 30-50 years.





Check the videos of the plumes though.  The dispersant is hiding the oil more than anything and just separates it into smaller droplets.


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you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.  :twobooks:

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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: THEBats]
    #430258 - 06/09/10 09:33 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

That's the point. They make it LOOK better while actually doing nothing to solve the problem. Just like after the Exxon Valdez, they still find oil under rocks, and in pockets along the coast line where it deposits.

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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: DungenessDank]
    #430259 - 06/09/10 09:36 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

They are just NOW entering their 3rd (and potentially final) phase of environmental / economic recovery in Prince William Sound.

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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: DungenessDank]
    #430260 - 06/09/10 09:38 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)



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kickin-two-hundo said:
you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.  :twobooks:

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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: THEBats]
    #430261 - 06/09/10 09:39 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I heard yesterday that the entire clean-up effort is going to cost as much as BP itself is worth :facepalm:

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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: DungenessDank]
    #430262 - 06/09/10 09:43 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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I heard yesterday that the entire clean-up effort is going to cost as much as BP itself is worth :facepalm:




100 billion dollars?  All the estimates I have read put it at much less than that, at around 20-30 billion dollars.  BP can likley afford to clean this up, pay off the fishermen and continue to make a profit.

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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: DieCommie]
    #430263 - 06/09/10 09:50 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

LOL.

Ignorance is a cheap laugh.

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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: DungenessDank]
    #430267 - 06/09/10 10:05 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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LOL.

Ignorance is a cheap laugh.





Well considering they will continue to be making profit as they are cleaning it up.


I would say that they will be just fine.


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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #430270 - 06/09/10 10:11 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

This is where the ignorance mostly is.

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clean this up, pay off the fishermen




1. No

and

2. Fuck no.

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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: DungenessDank]
    #430274 - 06/09/10 10:17 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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This is where the ignorance mostly is.

Quote:

clean this up, pay off the fishermen




1. No

and

2. Fuck no.




Lol, they are already being forced to do both.

Didn't obama fine them a few million just to start paying the fishermen back?


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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: DungenessDank]
    #430277 - 06/09/10 10:21 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I forget everyone isn't from the coast.

Most fisherman who we're effected by the Exxon Valdez DIED OF OLD AGE before they received any kind of compensation for the destruction of their fishery, effectively ruining their livelihood and bankrupting their business'. This was in a state where the economy, up before the oil boom, was basically supported by commercial fishermen.

Those that got their payments before dying, received on average about 40,000 dollars a piece, 20 some years later. I don't think I have to explain why this was not adequate payment.

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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: DungenessDank]
    #430278 - 06/09/10 10:21 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Im sure not everybody will be happy with the fines and litigation results.  But they will certainly be held financially responsible for the clean up and restitution.

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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: DieCommie]
    #430282 - 06/09/10 10:24 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

The only one's who will be happy with it are BP.

Everyone else can go fuck themselves as far as this corporation is concerned. They will spend as much on lawyers as anything.

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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: DungenessDank]
    #430283 - 06/09/10 10:25 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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I forget everyone isn't from the coast.

Most fisherman who we're effected by the Exxon Valdez DIED OF OLD AGE before they received any kind of compensation for the destruction of their fishery, effectively ruining their livelihood and bankrupting their business'. This was in a state where the economy, up before the oil boom, was basically supported by commercial fishermen.

Those that got their payments before dying, received on average about 40,000 dollars a piece, 20 some years later. I don't think I have to explain why this was not adequate payment.




Just because it happened that way before, does not mean it will not happen this time.


You are just assuming things.


And will all know what assuming things does.


It makes an ass out of YOU! :rofl:


But really, it is bad to assume things.

Because it is a fallacy of persuasion.


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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: DungenessDank]
    #430284 - 06/09/10 10:27 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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The only one's who will be happy with it are BP.

Everyone else can go fuck themselves as far as this corporation is concerned. They will spend as much on lawyers as anything.




Lol, to bad obama can just keep fining them and giving the money to people affected.

They try to lawyer up the government really will just go LOL NO U!


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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #430286 - 06/09/10 10:28 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

We'll see. :smirk: History seems to repeat itself.

Let's say I owned a business that made a profit out of raping this planet to begin with. Do I give a fuck if a bunch of poor fisherman can work? Hell no. I'm here to minimize loses.

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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: DungenessDank]
    #430287 - 06/09/10 10:29 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Dont think for a minute that smooth talking alabama lawyers arent going to gouge BP using alabama juries as well.  It goes both ways.

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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: DungenessDank]
    #430288 - 06/09/10 10:30 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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We'll see. :smirk: History seems to repeat itself.

Let's say I owned a business that made a profit out of raping this planet to begin with. Do I give a fuck if a bunch of poor fisherman can work? Hell no. I'm here to minimize loses.




Exactly, but when the government forces you to. LITERALLY FORCES YOU TO, you will. Whether you want to or not.

:smirk:


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Re: Motherfuck British Petroleum [Re: DungenessDank]
    #430289 - 06/09/10 10:31 AM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Educate yourselves before you look like fools to real life people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exxon_Valdez_oil_spill#Litigation_and_cleanup_costs

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