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Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843]
    #4 - 04/18/08 10:53 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

 
 


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Today, a bill to eliminate all federal penalties for marijuana
possession was introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives.


Would you please take one minute to ask your representative to support this bill?
MPP's easy online action system makes it simple - just enter your name and contact
info and they'll do the rest.

"The Personal Use of Marijuana by Responsible Adults Act of 2008," introduced by
Congressman Barney Frank (D-Mass.), would eliminate the threat of arrest and prison
for the possession of up to 3.5 ounces of marijuana and/or the not-for-profit transfer
of up to one ounce of marijuana. It would not affect federal laws prohibiting selling
marijuana for profit, importing and exporting marijuana, or cultivating marijuana.  It
also would not affect any state or local laws and regulations.

Because almost all marijuana arrests are made by local and state police, the primary
impact of this federal bill is twofold:  First, it would offer protection to people who are
apprehended with marijuana in federal buildings or on federal land (such as national
parks); and, second, the bill sends a message to state governments that the federal
government is now open to the notion of states reducing their marijuana penalties,
too.

This historic legislation comes 36 years after the National Commission on Marihuana
and Drug Abuse made a similar recommendation to President Richard Nixon,
suggesting that he decriminalize small amounts of marijuana.

MPP has worked closely with Congressman Frank's staff over the last year, helping to
craft the legislation and build political support for the proposal on Capitol Hill.

Now that the bill has been introduced, members of Congress need to hear from their
constituents who want to see it passed. It takes only a minute or two to use MPP's
online action system to send a quick note to your member of the House.




Now, take just one moment to [click here]
and send a message to your representative
supporting this new legislation.




If you can spare an additional two minutes, make a phone call!


  • You can reach your member of Congress by dialing the U.S. House switchboard
    operator at (202) 225-3121 and asking the operator to connect you to your
    representative (click here to lookup your representative). A staff member or
    intern will take your message and relay it to your representative. You can say:

    My name is [your name] and I am calling from [your town, your state].
    I wanted to ask my representative to please support Barney Frank's
    Personal Use of Marijuana by Responsible Adults Act.



If you believe non-violent marijuana users should stay out of jail...
If you believe the federal government should set precident on this issue...
If you want to do what you can to help make this a reality...

Take action! :tongue2::spliff:



Here is an email message I composed for my family and (more conservative) associates.  Feel free to use it if you like.
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For the first time in 24 years, a new bill was proposed today that would end the federal authority to arrest adults for marijuana possession, in effect leaving this decision to individual states, just as it had been for 161 years up until 1937. 

This bill [H.R. 5843 - The Personal Use of Marijuana by Responsible Adults Act of 2008], was introduced by US Congressman Barney Frank (D-MA) and co-sponsored by presidential candidate Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX), and seeks to eliminate all federal penalties prohibiting the personal use and possession of up to 100 grams (3.5 ounces) of marijuana.  Under this measure, adults who consume cannabis would no longer face arrest, prison, or even the threat of a civil fine.  The bill also eliminates all penalties for the not-for-profit transfers of up to one ounce of pot.

The bill incorporates the basic recommendations of the National Commission on Marijuana and Drug Abuse (also known as the Shafer Commission), which was implemented by Richard Nixon, but the scientific results and recommendations of which Nixon chose to ignore.  Instead he promoted one of the longest, most expensive and socially damaging wars - a war on the American public - the War on Drugs.

If you believe as I do, that the federal government has no business prohibiting an individual's right to choose what they put into their bodies (particularly when that substance is proven to cause less physical and social harm than other commonly enjoyed substances such as alcohol), I urge you to take just a moment to write and call your representative on this matter.

It will only take a few minutes, and your voice is important!

Then call the capital switchboard at (202) 225-3121 and ask the operator to connect you to your representative (you may give the operator your zip code and they will find your rep for you if you don't know their name).  Once connected to your representatives office, you can say something to the effect of:

My name is [your name] and I am calling from [your town, your state].
I wanted to ask my representative to please support Barney Frank's
Personal Use of Marijuana by Responsible Adults Act.


Thank you for hearing me out, and please feel free to forward this message to any and all potentially receptive peoples.




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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: geokills]
    #627 - 04/20/08 04:56 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Whether this passes or not, it is extremely important that this gets the attention it deserves.

I've been searching for a way I could make an impact politically for weeks. After being pretty apathetic about that idea for weeks, I stumbled across this same post on the shroomery.org.

I've already personally mailed a letter to my district representative and I am going to get some of my more politically active friends, family, and associates to do the same. I feel that if my representative gets a large handful of letters, we might just change his mind (if that even needs to be changed). Remember, some of our representatives may not even have a position and may not even plan to vote at all. Why not do the same: tell your local representative how you feel. Don't forget to remind him that you vote!

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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: labrat265]
    #840 - 04/20/08 11:41 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

it is very important that everyone email their congressional representatives in support of this legislation.

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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: SlashOZ]
    #844 - 04/20/08 11:42 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

We on our way!
everyone do this please!

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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: erb]
    #882 - 04/20/08 11:57 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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AlteredAgain said:
Do consider that every call received by your representative on a particular issue is statistically recorded to represent about 10,000 people in the United States population. I'm not completely certain about the exact number but this method of estimating total potential voters does exist.

Your call does matter.




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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: ScYiNs47]
    #952 - 04/20/08 12:20 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Like somebody else said in the shroomery version of this thread, I think that the internet is eventually what will bring about the decriminalization of weed. So much info out there, people eventually find it for themselves and see why it needs to be legalized.

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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: Guruu]
    #1715 - 04/20/08 03:10 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

you know what would be sick, if that southercomfort was loaded with keif

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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: ScYiNs47]
    #1726 - 04/20/08 03:13 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

ScYiNs47 said:
Quote:

AlteredAgain said:
Do consider that every call received by your representative on a particular issue is statistically recorded to represent about 10,000 people in the United States population. I'm not completely certain about the exact number but this method of estimating total potential voters does exist.

Your call does matter.




:thumbup:





Thanks for posting that!  I didn't realize they really monitored that stuff.  I have been planning on calling my congressman anyway, this just further strengthens my commitment!


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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: geokills]
    #1830 - 04/20/08 03:50 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Done and done. Although I doubt it will ever be passed this time around, it does let those in power know how the majority of people feel about this issue.


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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: Toiletduk]
    #3004 - 04/20/08 07:04 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Why is this not a sticky yet?


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you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.  :twobooks:

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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: THEBats]
    #3332 - 04/20/08 08:42 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

THEBats said:
Why is this not a sticky yet?


because there are no mods.

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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: highasfuck]
    #3471 - 04/20/08 09:39 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Already did my part, my whole address book got spammed twice with this.


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It's funny how when you're talking about testing the first nuclear weapon, which some scientists thought could possibly set off a chain reaction that would burn off our entire atmosphere and leave a lifeless barren rock floating in space, the risk is justified. But if a few extra people might get stoned it's just too dangerous to try.
-FF

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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: dill705]
    #4452 - 04/21/08 01:41 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Even though i dont smoke anymore, ill shoot some emails.

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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: Script]
    #4520 - 04/21/08 03:56 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

I did my part :cool:

can i be a mod here site gods?


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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: rodfarva]
    #5199 - 04/21/08 02:13 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

it says it wouldn't affect the federal laws regarding cultivation. so how would the marijuana be produced? by pharmaceutical companies?


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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: araucaria]
    #5230 - 04/21/08 02:27 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

In Canada, because we have a secret law that outsources all of our jobs.


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It's funny how when you're talking about testing the first nuclear weapon, which some scientists thought could possibly set off a chain reaction that would burn off our entire atmosphere and leave a lifeless barren rock floating in space, the risk is justified. But if a few extra people might get stoned it's just too dangerous to try.
-FF

I got $50 on Barack!!!

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Re: ATTENTION: ALL ELIGIBLE U.S. VOTERS - FEDERALLY DECRIMINALIZE MARIJUANA! [H.R. 5843] [Re: dill705]
    #5288 - 04/21/08 02:46 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

that sounds right


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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843] [Re: geokills]
    #5425 - 04/21/08 04:17 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

I emailed my congressman:grin:

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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843] [Re: night train]
    #5441 - 04/21/08 04:28 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

This is awsome I'm glade I live in colorado its getting closer and closer to legalization. Hell Yeah!


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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843] [Re: Acidistic]
    #5486 - 04/21/08 04:45 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Email your congressman a few times. Im sure they get more than enough emails and probably only veiw half of them.

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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843] [Re: geokills]
    #5738 - 04/21/08 06:25 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Word


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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843] [Re: highasfuck]
    #6169 - 04/21/08 08:18 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Just to note, calling carries more weight than an email.
So does a physical letter delivered through the postal system.


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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843] [Re: geokills]
    #6381 - 04/21/08 08:58 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

What about showing up to their doorstep in person with a loaded weapon?

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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843] [Re: andyistic]
    #6431 - 04/21/08 09:03 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

andyistic said:
What about showing up to their doorstep in person with a loaded weapon?




This may cause them to vote no...


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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843] [Re: andyistic]
    #6433 - 04/21/08 09:03 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Wouldn't recommend it. :nonono:


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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843] [Re: geokills]
    #6454 - 04/21/08 09:05 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

I'm just saying - someone is likely to pull a stunt like that.

Won't be me of course.

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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843] [Re: andyistic]
    #10201 - 04/23/08 07:46 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

I have sent e-mails from every e-mail address I have, have sent letters from myself as well as from various aliases at various addresses within my district, and called frequently, from as many phone numbers as possible.

Not that it will make a bit of difference. There's no way that this bill gets 2/3 thirds of the congress to give it an aye, but what the hell. It can't hurt.


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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843] [Re: Ziggen]
    #10252 - 04/23/08 09:17 AM (16 years, 8 months ago)

this bill might not pass, but each and everytime a new bills comes up, we got closer to the day when it will happen. I believe the last bill only lost by 40%-60%, rather than 5%-95%


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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843] [Re: citricacidx]
    #10443 - 04/23/08 12:59 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Nice. I'll write something up when I get the chance.


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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843] [Re: night train]
    #10481 - 04/23/08 01:11 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

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I emailed my congressman:grin:



I did, my wife did, and my son did, Do I get a rating for it, I feel bare with out it, I wish they would transfer from tha Shroomery!

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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843] [Re: highasfuck]
    #18212 - 05/03/08 12:19 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Well I emailed my dude, but he wont do it. Joe Donnelly (R-IN) is a piece of shit and appears to be trying to bring pain and suffering to indiana and the country in any way possible. Just a few days ago he told me how poor young single mothers are very good for the economy.

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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843] [Re: Rickster]
    #18268 - 05/03/08 12:49 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

I'd give you one but i need another 45 posts first.

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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843] [Re: larrythescaryrex]
    #20628 - 05/06/08 12:23 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

so, when do we get to see the results of this passing or failing?


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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843] [Re: Laysthepipe]
    #23420 - 05/09/08 07:39 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

good question


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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843] [Re: Dunno]
    #24272 - 05/09/08 09:17 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

I would like to know aswell. Someone please update.

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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843] [Re: highasfuck]
    #24325 - 05/09/08 10:41 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

consider this thread updated


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Dying to be heard for the simple art of letting this heavy wall finally fall
I'm an equal being of no race or color
A hallucination if you will
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To a new rhythm, just to feel better

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    #24772 - 05/10/08 10:13 AM (16 years, 7 months ago)

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    #27623 - 05/12/08 04:30 PM (16 years, 7 months ago)

Fuck. How long till they will know.

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    #60695 - 06/19/08 12:12 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)





This is the response I got :frown:

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    #60958 - 06/19/08 03:04 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

send him an intellectual, point by point rebuttal.


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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843] [Re: rodfarva]
    #61412 - 06/19/08 03:31 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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Who thinks this bill is even going to move? Dont kill it just stop it.

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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843] [Re: rpm2004]
    #62224 - 06/20/08 08:41 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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This is the response I got :frown:




Jesus, he really gives you a lecture there.  Lol, god that is sad.  I would do as rod farva suggested and send him a rebuttal to all those points he made.  Use references, cite experts he would likely have respect for, etc.  I think his logic is flawed.


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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843] [Re: rpm2004]
    #62685 - 06/20/08 10:17 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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On his comparison to the poppy plant, and morphine and heroin......heroin is turned into morphine in the body. Only orally supposedly, not IV, but still. Anyways an opiate is an opiate, they ALL have high abuse potential and can ALL be dangerous. Hardly a good comparison when we're talking about a non-physiologically addictive substance that's impossible to overdose on.

And a synthetic like marinol can't really be compared to the real thing when you're leaving out all those other cannabinoids. His thrown-in statistic of 1 joint being equal to 25 cigarettes is a little bit cliche and he happens to choose to use one of the unhealthiest methods for his argument, ignoring stuff like vaporizers.

Also the "devastating young Americans lives", typical......oh noes Save the childrens, he doesn't support peoples' right to make their own decisions, also typical politician, he is doing what needs to be done to "protect us from teh evil weeds". God bless him :smile:

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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843] [Re: Ombient]
    #62688 - 06/20/08 10:20 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Hence, the greatness of American government at work.

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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843] [Re: rpm2004]
    #62732 - 06/20/08 10:52 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Wow, I am blown away by Dean Heller's ignorance. :jawdrop:

Of all the misinformation in his statement, I have the hardest time even understanding how this guy could be so outrageous as to suggest that "a likely unintended consequence of legalizing marijuana is that the drug would be more readily available to children and teenagers."  He should be well aware that many youths will tell you it is easier for them to score illicit substances than it is to acquire age-restricted legal substances such as alcohol.  This is because legalization takes away most of the incentive for the black market to deal in a substance... and if kids can't find the stuff on the streets anymore, that means they'll have to purchase from licensed establishments that check ID. 

Unbelievable Representative Heller. :nonono:  How sad to think that you can represent so many people with such lunacy.  :sad:


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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843] [Re: geokills]
    #62957 - 06/21/08 11:20 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I'm probably not gonna right a response to him because it wouldn't do me no good,he wants to hate pot and nothing is gonna change his mind.

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    #63778 - 06/22/08 01:02 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I don't think writing an intelligent, cited response to each of his statements could hurt... I think it's worth a try.


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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843] [Re: godspeedyou]
    #64437 - 06/23/08 05:12 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Perhaps you should start a thread, we could write it for you? If your not into it, i would be happy to head the effort. Its obviously a form letter to counter your type of request/objection, it would not get back to you. It prolly wont get read either, perhaps there is a local news outlet that we could submit our work to?


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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843] [Re: rodfarva]
    #65398 - 06/24/08 10:20 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

got my response back too.  Todd Tiahart says marijuana is bad and he's uber anti.
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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843] [Re: Ombient]
    #68735 - 06/29/08 08:22 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

what a crock of shit. he goes from the opium poppy to heroin like we all know and have the tools to do this complex procedure...

i agree with what everyone else said as well.

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    #81142 - 07/12/08 08:40 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

LEGALIZE IT

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    #88975 - 07/20/08 05:18 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843] [Re: Legalize Me]
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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843] [Re: moho456]
    #105571 - 08/07/08 02:07 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I got a response back from my Congressman today:

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Dear Mr. ----,



Thank you for contacting me with your thoughts regarding the legalization of marijuana. I appreciate hearing from you about this issue and welcome the opportunity to respond.



The negative effects of marijuana are well proven by the American Medical Association and the National Institutes of Health (NIH). Daily use of marijuana affects the parts of the brain that control memory, attention, and learning, and also causes some changes in the brain that are like those caused by cocaine, heroin, and alcohol. Additionally, smoking marijuana causes similar lung damage as smoking cigarettes. Scientists are still learning about the many affects of marijuana. I do not believe that we can in good conscience fully decriminalize marijuana when there is still so much unknown information about the long-term health risks associated with it, both mentally and physically.



While we may disagree on this particular issue, I respect your opinions and your insight. It is an honor to serve you in Washington. If you would like more information on issues, or would like to share your thoughts with me via e-mail, you may visit my website at http://sullivan.house.gov. Please do not hesitate to contact me again should you have further concerns on federal legislation or programs.





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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843] [Re: CaptTrip]
    #105905 - 08/07/08 10:08 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Damn, it seems like every congressman and senator has opinions based solely on government sponsored research (and agencies) and the AMA.  I saw a video of Irvin Rosenfeld talking to a whole bunch of doctors about this issue.  it was really great.  He really encouraged them to become active within the AMA with the goal of advancing within the leadership of the AMA in order to try to change the opinion they seem to hold about cannabis use.  You should respond to Mr. Sullivan with a well written letter with references cited regarding the safe use of cannabis.


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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843] [Re: highasfuck]
    #118837 - 09/05/08 04:07 PM (16 years, 3 months ago)

im glad i live in a decriminalized state.:thumbup:


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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843] [Re: highasfuck]
    #121517 - 09/13/08 10:49 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

i wish this would of been implemented before i got arrested for possesion about 4 days ago... $30 worth of weed (quater) and my bond was $2700.... INJUSTICE I SAY!

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    #121524 - 09/13/08 11:00 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

we definitely do not have a justice system.
we have a legal system.
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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843] [Re: Calibrate]
    #121845 - 09/14/08 02:12 AM (16 years, 3 months ago)

But the Executive Branch is full of the idiots


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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843] [Re: freepain]
    #126432 - 09/29/08 04:13 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I just emailed my congressman, Though I doubt he'll read it.

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    #126482 - 09/29/08 10:48 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I'm gonna vote for it write-in style.

Please choose the best candidate for President of The United States;
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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843] [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #136575 - 10/24/08 08:14 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Who is marijuana's running mate?

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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843] [Re: islandgrower]
    #136871 - 10/26/08 09:55 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Blunty the Frog, the frog w/ a blunt in his mouth.



I am tired of getting those automated responses "be sure that I am fighitng for education, old people, yadda yadaa..." -  I had emailed my governor and gotten back an actual response, they said the first step is actually speaking to the legislative side (senators, congressman) & that there was no defintive time in which my state would re-review the information concerning medical marijuana.

This House bill has been going for a few years, it just seems that each year it goes w/o review, it makes it to a certain "board" or "committee" and fails to be reviewed before the house closes.  HR 5842 is for Medical Marijuana, while HR 5843 is for Responsible Adult Use, so both are great steps and the latter choice is the last step to decriminalizing


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Re: Attention U.S. Voters: Federal Decriminalization of Marijuana! [H.R. 5843] [Re: t0ad]
    #192635 - 02/05/09 02:18 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

This bill was was held in a permanent "review" stage until the term ended; they didn't want it so they swept it under the rug until that session of congress was over. It's dead, and a lot of people out there don't seem to notice.


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    #192817 - 02/05/09 11:47 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

that is true, but most likely it will be reintroduced in the new session of congress.


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    #192832 - 02/06/09 12:08 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

that is also what I heard a few months ago from an unremembered source.


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    #196229 - 02/15/09 12:49 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

its come into congress for the last few years, thats what other people dont know.

there has been compassionate / responsibile bills for the last few years that go to a committee and then they just put it on the side to ignore


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    #196535 - 02/16/09 04:33 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

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This bill was was held in a permanent "review" stage until the term ended; they didn't want it so they swept it under the rug until that session of congress was over. It's dead, and a lot of people out there don't seem to notice.




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