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 Is my plant dead? 
#391275 - 03/28/10 04:00 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Pretty stupid question right lol
Anyways I just checked my plant for the first time in like 30 hours and it went from looking great except some burns around the leaves (which I added nutrients to fix, you can see about it another dd thread I just had). Anyways now it looks like this, but the bud still looks okay at least. So is there any saving this plant, or should I just begin drying my bud
  
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LOL not dead, but very close. You might (and this is a big might) be able to revive it. One question though, why would you add nutes to fix a nute burn?
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Well I was not sure what the burn was. But I mentioned in my post about the burn that I had not added nutes in about a week (and im using aerogarden nutes). They said my problem was probably no nutes because since my plant is budding its using up more nutes. So I added more nutes. Now it looks like this. Any suggestions? Or should I start drying
Edited by screekrunner (03/28/10 05:26 PM)
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flush it and see what happens in 24-36 hours
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Re: Is my plant dead? [Re: mhbound]
#391386 - 03/28/10 05:35 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Should I put any new nutrients or just straight water.
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mhbound
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straight water..make sure the pH is in check and you should be good to go. you can revive that thing
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I dont got anything to test the ph. Is tap water normally good. I'm going to try to go to the store tomorrow though and get stuff to test it
Also I just noticed the water in there is warm as bath water. Is that bad?
Edited by screekrunner (03/28/10 05:48 PM)
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use some room temp bottled water for now then
my tap water here is 6.2-6.5 so i can use mine if i choose which i do, but i let it sit out and add some conditioning liquids to get the ph, hardness etc to where i want it
it looks like the nutrients are locked out to me and possible burn
your plant needs a lot of nitrogen during vegetative growth but needs less during flowering and more phosphorous during flowering as well
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Re: Is my plant dead? [Re: mhbound]
#391426 - 03/28/10 05:54 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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use some room temp bottled water for now then
my tap water here is 6.2-6.5 so i can use mine if i choose which i do, but i let it sit out and add some conditioning liquids to get the ph, hardness etc to where i want it
it looks like the nutrients are locked out to me and possible burn
your plant needs a lot of nitrogen during vegetative growth but needs less during flowering and more phosphorous during flowering as well
Okay, so what does that mean I should do if flushing my plant revives it. I'm a first time grower and don't know a lot yet.
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It just means stop using the aerogarden nutes and get some proper hydro nutrients made for flowering specifically. People seem to like the foxfarm range.
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Re: Is my plant dead? [Re: Snurry]
#391454 - 03/28/10 06:18 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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It just means stop using the aerogarden nutes and get some proper hydro nutrients made for flowering specifically. People seem to like the foxfarm range.
Okay got it. I will get on that tomorrow, assuming my plant revives. Does anyone got any idea though why this would of happened completely out of nowhere. I have been flowering and using these nutrients for over a month after all.
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Probably several things, but I will let someone more experienced tell you whats up.
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It sucks, but that's the way problems usually show themselves. They'll semi-healthy the night before. After a good sleep you wake up to check your girls and their all fucked.
Growing indoors you have to recreate the ecosystem inside. As well as getting some proper nutrients, try and get a digital thermometer that shows relative humditity as well as a pH reader. That way you can make sure your girls stay happy and stop any problems early enough so they don't give you a scare like this.
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Re: Is my plant dead? [Re: Snurry]
#391481 - 03/28/10 06:30 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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the pH is extremely important i dont think you are understanding that part
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Re: Is my plant dead? [Re: mhbound]
#391497 - 03/28/10 06:38 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have used tap water since day one and been fine. But then again I never really knew the pH or flowered. So I'm going to hopefully test it tomorrow if not I'll just use bottled water from here on out cause this grow should not have to much longer left.
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well..........
the pH needed is different in flowering than in veggin stages
thats probably why you are just not seeing the problem, if it indeed happens to be a pH issue
tap water also has chlorine, nitrates in it and all this other shit
if you use it you need to let it sit out for 24 hours before using and adding the ferts
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Re: Is my plant dead? [Re: mhbound]
#391509 - 03/28/10 06:46 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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well..........
the pH needed is different in flowering than in veggin stages
thats probably why you are just not seeing the problem, if it indeed happens to be a pH issue
tap water also has chlorine, nitrates in it and all this other shit
if you use it you need to let it sit out for 24 hours before using and adding the ferts
Okay, so if that's the case would it actually be possible to use dechlorinator I have for fish tanks?
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yes, i have some of that stuff and it balances the pH to around 7 and removes the chlorine and shit
just follow the instructions on the back and get some pH test strips...a digital pH meter would be better but that are around 50 dollars and strips are about 5-10 until you can buy a nice one
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Well I was not sure what the burn was. But I mentioned in my post about the burn that I had not added nutes in about a week (and im using aerogarden nutes). They said my problem was probably no nutes because since my plant is budding its using up more nutes. So I added more nutes. Now it looks like this. Any suggestions? Or should I start drying
Dude did you even read what I said to you in that thread? I said that your plant was using up the WATER and leaving the nutrients behind, causing the burn. I said you should CHANGE your reservoir to get it back to the normal concentration, not give it more nutes. HUGE fucking difference man
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Well I was not sure what the burn was. But I mentioned in my post about the burn that I had not added nutes in about a week (and im using aerogarden nutes). They said my problem was probably no nutes because since my plant is budding its using up more nutes. So I added more nutes. Now it looks like this. Any suggestions? Or should I start drying
Dude did you even read what I said to you in that thread? I said that your plant was using up the WATER and leaving the nutrients behind, causing the burn. I said you should CHANGE your reservoir to get it back to the normal concentration, not give it more nutes. HUGE fucking difference man
Well maybe I should stop smoking when I care for my plant. Okay, now that we have realized the real issue, do you think the plant has a chance?
Although I am still slightly confused Harry. I water my plant everyday. So any water that gets used up is replaced. So shouldnt that keep it at a normal concentration
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buy some books and videos..you gots a lot to learn...A LTO LOT LOT
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Re: Is my plant dead? [Re: mhbound]
#391543 - 03/28/10 07:12 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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buy some books and videos..you gots a lot to learn...A LTO LOT LOT
I agree I have a lot to learn. But after all this has been my one and only problem in my first grow. So I think I'm doing pretty good for a first timer
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Dude, you just killed your plant, how is that "doing pretty good" ?
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Re: Is my plant dead? [Re: DieselB]
#391728 - 03/28/10 08:46 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Dude, you just killed your plant, how is that "doing pretty good" ?
LOL ok that was funny.
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Re: Is my plant dead? [Re: DieselB]
#391892 - 03/28/10 10:32 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Dude, you just killed your plant, how is that "doing pretty good" ?
Some of you guys really just are not helpful at all. Go to another thread, those of that did help. Thanks for everything. I got 1.5 grams of bud right now (not dryed of course) not alot but im pretty happy with my 5 inch plant and the bud i got from it 
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I really wish you had actually listened to the help I gave you man. you'd have 5 times that bud at 5 times the potency
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Dude, you just killed your plant, how is that "doing pretty good" ?
Some of you guys really just are not helpful at all. Go to another thread, those of that did help. Thanks for everything. I got 1.5 grams of bud right now (not dryed of course) not alot but im pretty happy with my 5 inch plant and the bud i got from it
So you got .5 grams dry? Not too bad..... . but seriously why did you chop it? you coulda saved it maybe.
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Re: Is my plant dead? [Re: Triptonic]
#391921 - 03/28/10 10:51 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Dude, you just killed your plant, how is that "doing pretty good" ?
Some of you guys really just are not helpful at all. Go to another thread, those of that did help. Thanks for everything. I got 1.5 grams of bud right now (not dryed of course) not alot but im pretty happy with my 5 inch plant and the bud i got from it
So you got .5 grams dry? Not too bad...... but seriously why did you chop it? you coulda saved it maybe.
Well I just woke up from a nap and it was worse. I didn't need to show you guys a picture to know it had no chance of reviving. I guess I just caught it to late. I guess I'm not as bummed as I thought I was cause I'm excited to start my second grow. And just from the experience from this grow I know I will do so much better.
BTW any suggestions on drying. I just have mine in front of a fan. Or is that perfectly fine?
Oh and Harry, I do too man. That was just me misunderstanding your post, which screwed me. At least it happened on this grow.
Edited by screekrunner (03/28/10 10:54 PM)
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Re: Is my plant dead? [Re: Triptonic]
#391932 - 03/28/10 10:57 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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 I thought he was going to try and save it.
There's no reason to cut it unless it was completely dead.
Once it's dry screen, you'll have a couple of cones of some bud packed full of chlorophyll and hardly any THC. You should have tried to save it. Or at least get clarification on what harry was telling you before overdosing it with nutes.
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Okay people. I have apologized now for killing my own plant. I know its like a crime to you guys to kill a perfectly good female plant, but I promise its gonna be okay
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You may as well dry it in the damn microwave with triptonic's seeds.
Have you done a search about drying or curing buds? No? You gotta dry them slowly, bro. Either throw the fan or the bud out the window, but don't fucking double-fail.
Put them in a paper bag and let them sit at room temperature for a week or so. Check DAILY for mold.
On second thought, you may want to consider throwing the bud away before you become an aspergillus statistic. I'm just saying. JOKING!
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You may as well dry it in the damn microwave with triptonic's seeds.
Have you done a search about drying or curing buds? No? You gotta dry them slowly, bro. Either throw the fan or the bud out the window, but don't fucking double-fail.
Put them in a paper bag and let them sit at room temperature for a week or so. Check DAILY for mold.
On second thought, you may want to consider throwing the bud away before you become an aspergillus statistic. I'm just saying. JOKING!
Ya I did do a search actually. I want other peoples opinions on how they do it
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The plant was dying from a nute overdose so you're still going to have a lot of that in your bud. So even if you do slow dry whatever you have the taste and sparkles from all the nutes.
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I wasn't trying to be "not helpful", homie. I was trying to keep it real with you to help you. If you were to go along with the theory that you're really doing pretty good, and it was just a fluke that killed your plant, you would very likely go and do the same thing again.
You blatantly ignored the advice given to you by a "Trusted Cultivator", advice you were asking for, by the way. You see what I'm gettin' at? Yesterday I found this pdf from Advanced Nutrients- 7 mistakes made by novice growers, though I consider myself pretty well past beginner, I opened it up and looked anyway. The first rule was to research before you grow, something I find myself telling people fairly often. It really pays off.
You can use this, mistakes are what gives you experience, not learning from your mistakes gives you frustration. Go and read all you can, make the search engine your bitch. Your next grow will go better.
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Re: Is my plant dead? [Re: DieselB]
#391966 - 03/28/10 11:37 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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I wasn't trying to be "not helpful", homie. I was trying to keep it real with you to help you. If you were to go along with the theory that you're really doing pretty good, and it was just a fluke that killed your plant, you would very likely go and do the same thing again.
You blatantly ignored the advice given to you by a "Trusted Cultivator", advice you were asking for, by the way. You see what I'm gettin' at? Yesterday I found this pdf from Advanced Nutrients- 7 mistakes made by novice growers, though I consider myself pretty well past beginner, I opened it up and looked anyway. The first rule was to research before you grow, something I find myself telling people fairly often. It really pays off.
You can use this, mistakes are what gives you experience, not learning from your mistakes gives you frustration. Go and read all you can, make the search engine your bitch. Your next grow will go better.
Im using my mistakes as experience. I just don't need everyone attacking for my killing my own plant and being a dickhead about it, Also I did no ignore any advice. I misread something and ya I did make one mistake. Theres a difference between criticism and being a dick. And there seems to be a lot of the second going around. I guess I originally just assumed this website would be more like the shroomery. I guess that was my mistake..
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I agree with you man, but it doesnt seem like anyone is really being a dick to you, only joking around. There is a difference between that too.
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Re: Is my plant dead? [Re: Triptonic]
#391974 - 03/28/10 11:46 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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I agree with you man, but it doesnt seem like anyone is really being a dick to you, only joking around. There is a difference between that too.
Triptonic I will admit I did over react there I apologize. But I have been getting a lot of negative comments from people cause I made a mistake and hurt MY plant. I appreciate help, and sometimes that includes criticism. But some people can go to far sometimes.
Edited by screekrunner (03/28/10 11:46 PM)
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I agree, just roll with the punches dude. If people didnt care about your plants they wouldnt post in your threads.
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Re: Is my plant dead? [Re: Triptonic]
#391977 - 03/28/10 11:59 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ya. Anyways this grow is done anyways. Time to look for some new seeds, and buying some equipment for my next grow
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I guess I originally just assumed this website would be more like the shroomery. I guess that was my mistake..
Among others, probably so. I think not researching was your biggest mistake but that is my own personal opinion. The problem with taking the approach, "learning from mistakes," is that a mistake when cultivating cannabis can cost you 3 months of time and lots of money. Your lucky your grow was so short anyway.
Better planning will no doubt make your next grow more successful.
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BTW any suggestions on drying. I just have mine in front of a fan. Or is that perfectly fine?
That's perfectly fine, but as others have already stated, your bud is probably not yet developed enough and is no doubt filled with nutes and chlorophyl. You might be able to make some butter with it and then make some awesome brownies. 
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Re: Is my plant dead? [Re: TomCollins]
#392023 - 03/29/10 08:53 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hey, I explained myself, its not my fault you got your undies in a twist over one comment. If I'm still a dick after my last comment well.. You're obviously just gonna kill more plants, go back to the shroomery, they will kiss your boo-boo's.
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Re: Is my plant dead? [Re: DieselB]
#392028 - 03/29/10 09:34 AM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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he only got 1.5 grams wet off of it spency...no butter to be made here
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Re: Is my plant dead? [Re: DieselB]
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he only got 1.5 grams wet off of it spency...no butter to be made here
...Firewood then? 
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Hey, I explained myself, its not my fault you got your undies in a twist over one comment. If I'm still a dick after my last comment well..
I'm beginning to see a pattern with screekrunner.
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Re: Is my plant dead? [Re: mhbound]
#392110 - 03/29/10 01:31 PM (14 years, 8 months ago) |
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yes, i have some of that stuff and it balances the pH to around 7 and removes the chlorine and shit
just follow the instructions on the back and get some pH test strips...a digital pH meter would be better but that are around 50 dollars and strips are about 5-10 until you can buy a nice one
NO. NO. NO.
aquarium conditioners are extremely toxic to plants they "remove" Chlorine by adding Sodium making table salt or NaCl (sodium chloride) big no no for plants.
This is probably the worst advice ever as it's worse than over fertilizing as there's residual damage and your medium remains toxic until the salt is gone.
If you want to remove Chlorine just degas your water with an airstone.
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yes, i have some of that stuff and it balances the pH to around 7 and removes the chlorine and shit
just follow the instructions on the back and get some pH test strips...a digital pH meter would be better but that are around 50 dollars and strips are about 5-10 until you can buy a nice one
NO. NO. NO.
aquarium conditioners are extremely toxic to plants they "remove" Chlorine by adding Sodium making table salt or NaCl (sodium chloride) big no no for plants.
This is probably the worst advice ever as it's worse than over fertilizing as there's residual damage and your medium remains toxic until the salt is gone.
If you want to remove Chlorine just degas your water with an airstone.
Better yet invest in an RO.
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The admins are tired of this shitfest being made the joke of the weed community on the Internet.
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captain.koons
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Dude, you just killed your plant, how is that "doing pretty good" ?
Some of you guys really just are not helpful at all. Go to another thread, those of that did help. Thanks for everything. I got 1.5 grams of bud right now (not dryed of course) not alot but im pretty happy with my 5 inch plant and the bud i got from it
K man, your attitude is fucking awful. 1.5grams of wet immature bud could be grown faster in a tea cup of yard soil.
I don't think anyone will help you if you say people aren't being helpful when you don't know SQUAT about growing. You had bathtub warm water, your aerogarden looks filthy as shit, you tried fertilizing your plant when it was having nutrient burn, I'm sure the list could go on. Doing a search and reading for 5 minutes would have answered all of these questions.
Cheers.
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let me find info on the stuff i use koons, im pretty sure its not toxic to the plants..ill see. i use it as a last resort anyway, but i didnt know it was toxic...it doesnt seem to be when i use it
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