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 Picklez
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 First Indoor Grow 
#351738 - 01/22/10 12:23 AM (15 years, 29 days ago) |
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Ive decided to give my brother a hand with his first indoor grow and figured I would document it here and ask questions as he runs into any problems
Today I went to his place and we finished building the closet which is 4'x 2'x 6'
There are maybe 12 seedlings that made it and will be placed under the light starting some time this weekend
I will post updates and pictures as I get the chance. I appreciate any tips and suggestions
Here is the closet with a nifty heavy plastic sheet door:
Here are the seedlings in dixie cups before he placed them in the closet:
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 NightGrower
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Re: First Indoor Grow [Re: Picklez]
#351750 - 01/22/10 02:10 AM (15 years, 29 days ago) |
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keep us updated, I will be following this thread.
What are the seeds? Looks like two different crosses.
You said you built that cab? how? it looks pre-fabricated. WHat kind of sheeting is that, that you use for the door?
Good luck to you and your brother.
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dutc2006
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Re: First Indoor Grow [Re: NightGrower]
#351781 - 01/22/10 06:17 AM (15 years, 29 days ago) |
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What kinda of light are you using? You may want to move it a little closer. They are stretching pretty bad.
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Picklez
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Re: First Indoor Grow [Re: NightGrower]
#351951 - 01/22/10 03:26 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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Built the cabinet out of 4'x'8 particle board
The door was made out of 3.5mil thick painters plastic. There are actually 3 layers. Without the light in it, the closet actually doubles as a glove box as well 
The seedlings will be moved until the light today, the light should be setup today
The light is a 400w Galaxy digital balast with both HPS and MH bulbs
Strain is AK47 x Sour Diesel
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Sgt. Smoke
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Re: First Indoor Grow [Re: Picklez]
#352005 - 01/22/10 05:17 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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Looks good.
Particle board will mold if not covered with some thick plastic. So watch out. plus it's heavy.
I can't wait to see some AK47 x Sour Diesel:)
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DJ_avocado
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Re: First Indoor Grow [Re: Sgt. Smoke]
#352009 - 01/22/10 05:27 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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Damn! Them some skinny bitches mang. So your grow room doubles as a glovebox?! Whats your ventilation look like? Running a 400w in that space is gonna need air flow.
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Picklez
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Re: First Indoor Grow [Re: Sgt. Smoke]
#352024 - 01/22/10 05:57 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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The inside is coated with sealer/ primer, white reflective paint
The light hasnt even been mounted yet, those were just pictures of the seedlings. They havent even opened their first set of leaves yet
Ventilation will be an air duct of some sort and a fan inside the grow closet to keep constant air flow
Pictures of the finished closet will come when I get a chance to get back over to my bros place
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Inverted
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Re: First Indoor Grow [Re: Picklez]
#352025 - 01/22/10 05:59 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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Yeah but my seedlings are at ground level when they open their first set.
You either left the seed shell on or don't have enough light. Those are going to need some assistance with heavy leaves up top.
Just some thoughts to ponder for ya 
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DrGreenThumb
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Re: First Indoor Grow [Re: Inverted]
#352038 - 01/22/10 06:26 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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My advice would be to start over and keep a light on them BEFORE they pop the soil surface. Ideally they should look like THIS. The pic is after 2 days above the soil.
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Picklez
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Re: First Indoor Grow [Re: Inverted]
#352042 - 01/22/10 06:30 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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So they should have been germinated inside the growing closet under the 400w light?
We'll see how they do after a week under the new light, if they dont start to improve then I will start back over
Im not sure how many seeds he has though
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DrGreenThumb
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Re: First Indoor Grow [Re: Picklez]
#352046 - 01/22/10 06:37 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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400W is to much waste for tiny seedlings. My advice to start them under some CFL's and then turn the 400 on when they're about 2 weeks old. Personally, I use Overdriven 4ft. shop lights. That's what you see mine under in the picture. You can see that the tray in the back is elevated so they are about 1 inch from the bulbs. Those other two trays sit right beside it but I pulled them to the front for a pic.
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Picklez
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Ah, I see. So I should have either germinated them under no light at all, just normal room lighting OR under weak bulbs with the bulbs close to the seedlings
OK, I will probably have him scrap the skinny long seedlings and start over.
He might germinate them under the 400w just because I dont know what other space he would use to do it
Thanks for the tips. We are both hoping this first grow is a success. I am heading to home depot in a bit to pick up a fan, light timer, air duct, and a couple other goods
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DrGreenThumb
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Re: First Indoor Grow [Re: Picklez]
#352053 - 01/22/10 06:58 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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If you're not too concerned about wasting a little power than YES, absolutely start them under the 400. Now just to clarify, when you germinate use the paper towel method. Put them in a covered bowl, BETWEEN wet paper towels, in a warm spot. As soon as you see a taproot plant them in the soil (taproot down obviously) about 1/2" down. Then put them under the light right away. Keep the light about 1-1.5 feet away. You'll be much happier the results.
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Picklez
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Here are new pictures from today. Im going to add a black sheet to the front to cut down on the amount of light getting out
Only concern is the light burning either the wall or the plastic. It is touching both. More worried about the plastic obviously. Im testing it out now
   
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Sgt. Smoke
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Re: First Indoor Grow [Re: Picklez]
#352125 - 01/22/10 09:43 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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Is the bulb touching the plastic? If not you shouldn't have a problem as long as you have good air flow. Nice little setup none the less.
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Re: First Indoor Grow [Re: Picklez]
#352129 - 01/22/10 09:46 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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Damn Killer, with that light running it looks like pretty sweet setup. You should be be able to to pull at least a QP on you first run, if not more. Keep us updated, and keep the questions coming. 
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Picklez
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My brother picked out and bought the light
We still need to build a carbon scrubber but it's pretty much done.
The seedlings have been placed in the closet. We will see if they improve in the next 3-4 days. If not I will start back from at the beginning
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Picklez
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Re: First Indoor Grow [Re: Picklez]
#352160 - 01/22/10 10:33 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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Here's the seedlings now placed inside the closet. I have a fan running 24/7 on low to keep air moving
Im going to give them a couple of days and if not scrap them.
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MushrooMan420
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Re: First Indoor Grow [Re: Picklez]
#352166 - 01/22/10 10:44 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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You don’t need to kill them just because they are long and skanky if you are eventually placing them in a soil pot!
Just re-pot them in a little larger of a pot and fill the soil to about an inch or two from the first leaves.
Good luck
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Picklez
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I am going to wait on some more feedback and if not then that might be the way to go
If he decides to just plant a new batch of seeds, could germinate them in the same pots that he intends to grow them in?
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