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 pblcenmy1
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 After Flowering. 
#346484 - 01/12/10 05:16 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have a god bud female that 7 weeks old and 1 week into flowering. I have correctly identified her pistils sexing is not an issue. But im unsure of how lighting will effect her after she has shown her sex sign.
My questions are how important is it to keep her in pitch blackness after she has sexed. Will she revert to veg. or go hermaphrodite on me if her nights arnt exactly black? And after she flowers could i go to a 24 light and 24 dark cycle maybe or any other variation other than 12/12?
How exact do i need to be with the lighting after she has sexed?
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 coda
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Re: After Flowering. [Re: pblcenmy1]
#346487 - 01/12/10 05:18 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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If you're vegging keep her under 18/6 at minimum, if you're flowering stick to 12/12.
That's all there is to it.
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pblcenmy1
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Re: After Flowering. [Re: coda]
#346490 - 01/12/10 05:23 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Damn your fast coda. But when i was inducing her to flower i kept her in complete darkness for atleast 12 hours a day. Now that i know shes female, how strict do i have to be with her dark cycle. I ask because i have her on a table in the living room and its not exactly pitch black in there. How will that effect her at this point?
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Re: After Flowering. [Re: pblcenmy1]
#346495 - 01/12/10 05:27 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Light leaks equal hermies. Also pretty simple.
That 12 hour dark period needs to be inky black.
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Re: After Flowering. [Re: pblcenmy1]
#346497 - 01/12/10 05:29 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Very strict.
I would say you cannot be off by more than 15 minutes per cycle. I manually flowered a plant this past summer by bringing her outside and in on certain hours, but some days I would sleep in or miss my time by a half hour or an hour, and I noticed this to stress her. I made sure not to fuck up by more than 15-20 minutes and it ended up flowering great!
But watch those light leaks in the night cycle, they will ruin a crop in no time. Nothing brighter than moonlight is acceptable.
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Re: After Flowering. [Re: Inverted]
#346509 - 01/12/10 05:34 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
I ask because i have her on a table in the living room and its not exactly pitch black in there.
Bad idea. You're much better off shoving her in a closet then leaving her in an open room.
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pblcenmy1
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Re: After Flowering. [Re: Inverted]
#346520 - 01/12/10 05:43 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well at night i actually do shove her in the cabinet in the kitchen. I feel so bad that she has to suffocate but i knew how imperative it was for a pitch black night to actually induce her to flower. But since ive been giving her a steady night cycle she has been getting so much taller and is quickly going to outgrow that cabinet and im running out of dark spots that she will fit. Im going to go to the Arc soon and see if i cant find a bigger cabinet that i can gut out and make into a grow spot or just build one by hand.
FUCK... im getting over whelmed with my projects.
Thanks for the quick responses guys
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Re: After Flowering. [Re: pblcenmy1]
#346532 - 01/12/10 06:01 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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heh, this is why you setup your grow room BEFORE you start to grow  :P
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Re: After Flowering. [Re: pblcenmy1]
#346540 - 01/12/10 06:13 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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Well... what did you have in mind for your space? What dimensions and setup? How far along are you?
I agree with everyone here, get that plant a suitable environment with consistent lighting cycles and FAE or you will stress the plant, ruining your efforts.
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pblcenmy1
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Re: After Flowering. [Re: NightGrower]
#346614 - 01/12/10 07:27 PM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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I am 1 week into flowering and every growth tip (maybe 100 or so have pistils protruding from them) I only have the one plant and shes short stocky and very bushy (almost 2ft. x 2ft.) so my setup would be almost twice that size in width and more than double that size in height. Not too sure about venting... i'll probably incorporate a small fan hooked up to a wide tubular exhaust sucking the co2 from the bottom with another hole the same size for possitive air exchange.
And shes no stranger to stress as my lighting cycles have been far from steady and my crack headed feline friend liked to nibble on her in my sleep. She did the honor of topping my plant for me! hence, the reason for her shortness, but filled in nicely horizontally. I do have a very hearty manure growing medium that the plant just loves.
And yes i would be quite upset if she stressed to the point of hermaphrodism. I will take the advise given and build a suitable grow space.
Thanks to you all.
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Re: After Flowering. [Re: pblcenmy1]
#346807 - 01/13/10 08:06 AM (14 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'd like to see some pics of your plant.
You should do the rest of your grow in a grow log here. 
Oh, and not that it matters, but why are you worried about "sucking the CO2 from the bottom?" that seems weird.
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Harry_Ba11sach
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100 growth tips? 
I wanna see this plant too!
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pblcenmy1
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After request, this is my Gods Bud, IzZy
10 weeks old, almost 3 weeks into flowering. Grown mostly with a 42 watt 2700K cfl, and a 23 watt 6400K daylight cfl. Horse manure growing medium with perlite, verm, and composted strawberries. Have fed with a 15-30-15 from day one.
Veg. was 24/0
Flowering is 11/13
curing will include either mango, or peach.
This plant was half dead about 6 weeks ago because i burnt the shit outta her in my sleep when i put a 100 watt incandescent in my #3 lighting fixture. My cat topped the plant and ate the remains and nibbled down two growth tips from the bottom. Im surprised this plant stuck around and decided to be female after all that. I now keep the plant in a 20 gallon aquarium turned upright which i have lined with foil and compact discs and with 75 watts of light i'd say shes coming along quite well.
Any comments?
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Re: After Flowering. [Re: pblcenmy1]
#350153 - 01/19/10 12:35 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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11/13?
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pblcenmy1
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its averaging out that way. My lighting routine is still fucked up. Im slowly making my way to 12/12 although ive missed it and went 13/11 on a couple occasions. This is due to the fact that my timer doesnt have a 3 pronged grounded outlet and my 500watt tungsten halogen light that im trying to incorporate into the mix is plugged into a power strip directly into the wall. This plant is still not stressing any of the fucked up shit im doing to it so im going to just keep at it. I have however made her nights inky black for at least 11 hours. That was my main concern at this point and ill work on the lighting regimine. But as of right now all is well with her
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81renaissance
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11/13 is common for 100% Sativa's, but unnecessary for anything else unless you're having trouble getting her to flower.
I don't see 100 growth tips, so I'm curious what you're considering to be a "growth tip".
Her color is beautiful, and she looks healthy...keep it up.
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pblcenmy1
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I was considering every node at every branch a growth tip which are all centered around the area where the plant was topped. That one main tip emerged leaving the secondary tip behind by about 8 inches. And keep in mind that none of the leafs present are original fan leafs. This plant should have been over twice this size but would have been too tall for anything i could construct and had to be cut back because of previous mishaps. The original stem is only about 10 inches high and everything shown are secondary shoots. And she is quite lovely
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pblcenmy1
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Re: After Flowering. [Re: pblcenmy1]
#350174 - 01/19/10 01:30 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Maybe i should have said 100 nodes. which i think is more important than a growth tip in which my reasoning, each growth tip of my plant is accompanied by at least 20 nodes. So my terminology was wrong. sorry for the failboat!
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Re: After Flowering. [Re: pblcenmy1]
#350175 - 01/19/10 01:34 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm confused. 
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coda
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Everything in a red circle is a "growth tip", everything in yellow is a node which has a bud forming. I think he was saying he got his terminology confused and that he considered every spot at which a bud formed to be a growth tip.
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pblcenmy1
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Re: After Flowering. [Re: coda]
#350511 - 01/19/10 10:31 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yes! you are a master cultivator and a psychic. Thanks for those graphics. That clears up alot for many others as well im sure.
How effective would that tungsten halogen be at this point?
Its just a 500 watt shop light in which i removed the uv filter. I felt the plant would make more use of the unfiltered light. I incorporate it 1 hour in the morning and 1 hour before i turn them all off and its intensity far surpasses that of my cfl's by about 6 times. Is it just a waste of electricity?
Anyone have experience flowering with tungsten halogen?
Are their t type, or j type metal halide or mercury bulbs i can buy and replace the halogen?
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coda
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Re: After Flowering. [Re: pblcenmy1]
#350879 - 01/20/10 04:36 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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Find out the Kelvin temp on the light and the total lumen output from the bulb. Halogen lights get extremely hot, so in the end it may be very inefficient compared to a couple of cfl's strung together.
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pblcenmy1
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Re: After Flowering. [Re: coda]
#351092 - 01/20/10 10:17 PM (14 years, 10 months ago) |
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So after a little investigating, the halogen light turns only a max of 20 lumens per watt. As you stated previously coda, the light wastes much energy by heating profusely. And almost a quarter of the wavelengths are so far red and almost infrared that i beleive the plant wont make any use of them at all. So im guessing that the color temperature probably averages out around 500K. Im glad i havnt been leaving this light on for all those 12 hours seeing as it would have been a waste.
Best luminous efficacy (lumens/watt) i could calculate came from a t-5 and t-8 fluorescent and a low pressure sodium. High pressure wasnt too far behind.
Best overall luminous efficiency came from those previously stated and also included a whitelight screwbody L.E.D.
Best bang for our buck seems to be fluorescent and gas discharge.
As bright as this halogen was i figured it to be a bit more of a heavy hitter than this.
So to answer your question... finally, this halogen was only producing about 1500-2000 visible lumens and its color temp is probably about 500K. Couldnt really find a number in stone for the kelvin. So turns out those 2 small cfl's were actually producing more visible lumens by almost two times with 6 times as few watts. Hows that for a mind fuck
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