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 Re: high yield help!!!  [Re: SpaceMonkey]
#312892 - 11/09/09 12:22 AM (15 years, 22 days ago) |
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of N,N-DMT...usually 40-50 milligrams...I just used 60mg as a conservative estimate.
according to an article on erowid, one can harvest 1-1.5 grams of fresh venom from a large adult toad. This contains 50% water, and the dry substance that forms after the water evaporates can contain as little as 5% or as much as 15% 5-MeO-DMT, which is active at 3-5mg...so assuming 1.5 grams fresh venom, and 15% 5-MeO-DMT, and 3mg active dose, one comes up with the equivalent of 37.5 doses per milking.
After each venom milking, the toad needs to regenerate it's venom supplies over the course of 4 to 6 weeks before it can be re-milked.
So assuming the worst case scenario from my previous post on the plant extraction, and assuming the best scenario, it would take about 18 weeks for the toad to become a better deal. Which may be better if you are good at taking care of animals...
So it seems like although the toad is kind of a hassle, it can pay for itself in as little as 18 weeks or as much as 66 weeks if the toad's genetics aren't quite on par. It would also be a good way to be sneaky about drug use...like if you are living with a roomate that doesnt like the smell of solvents. Or if you want a pet reptile and only want to trip 37 times in a 4-6 week period  .
Again, I have no experience with toad, and im good with chemistry, so I might be a little more inclined to go with plant material...but to each his own haha.
peace,
agmotes165
p.s., one of the vendors currently stocks these toads...and states they can live for 15 years if taken care of...I'm going to let you guys figure out which one it is...    
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 TheShroomJew23
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Re: high yield help!!! [Re: Data]
#313377 - 11/09/09 09:17 PM (15 years, 21 days ago) |
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HEY AGMOTES165,
The plant extraction is so easy, I am a chemistry guy too and its like one of the easiest organic molecule extractions I have ever done, and it makes my brain feel so warm and trippy.
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SpaceMonkey
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Since your a chemist, could you make me some LSD please?
Just kidding of course! 
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captain.koons
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Quote:
TheShroomJew23 said:
HEY AGMOTES165,
The plant extraction is so easy, I am a chemistry guy too and its like one of the easiest organic molecule extractions I have ever done, and it makes my brain feel so warm and trippy.
You must also be an engineer and masterful botanist and horticulturalist to get a kilo a week out of a 4x4 area.
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SpaceMonkey
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Triptonic
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Re: high yield help!!! [Re: SpaceMonkey]
#313412 - 11/09/09 10:01 PM (15 years, 21 days ago) |
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That Guy
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Re: high yield help!!! [Re: Triptonic]
#313434 - 11/09/09 10:36 PM (15 years, 21 days ago) |
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damn who's growing a kilo a week?
edit: ah ok...checked his posts...
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Edited by Data (11/09/09 10:39 PM)
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Jeff Funk
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Re: high yield help!!! [Re: Data]
#313436 - 11/09/09 10:46 PM (15 years, 21 days ago) |
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20grand off of 2lights?
the fuck you selling pounds for? the fuck you growing and harvesting?
Weed. and thats over a 2-3 month period it could be done
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captain.koons
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Re: high yield help!!! [Re: Jeff Funk]
#313440 - 11/09/09 10:51 PM (15 years, 21 days ago) |
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Weed takes 2-3 months to grow.
So 2 x 1000w lights.... even if you're growing sour diesel in nyc and selling lbs for 6000$ ur not hitting the 20grand mark.
unless of course you meant 2-3 grows 
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Jeff Funk
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Definately not one rip. I have multiple setups finishing up every 3 weeks. thats how I get a number like that. I can fit about 92 under those two lights.
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captain.koons
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Re: high yield help!!! [Re: Jeff Funk]
#313449 - 11/09/09 11:10 PM (15 years, 21 days ago) |
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Even perpetually... say you run a 50day strain you don't add up your yield for 75 days.
2kw could crop 2 lbs every 25days assuming you got an area for clones or buy clones or something but this isn't the kind of weed you're selling for 4grand a lb.
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Jeff Funk
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i can harvest 32 plants every 3 weeks. So I round that to 32 plants per month. Which will give me around 20ounces. 20 x $325=$6500. 6500x3months= $19500. Where I'm at people pay $400-$475 ounce. And those are people who plan on re-selling it.(quite dumb to me but hey) Tell em $325 each no deals they'll pay it. And if you know a few good people they'll buy em all. Rarely do I have the time or help to maintain that many plants on a consistant basis. But it has been done. And I'm sure if you were here you could do better. I'm still learning.
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captain.koons
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Re: high yield help!!! [Re: Jeff Funk]
#313457 - 11/09/09 11:41 PM (15 years, 21 days ago) |
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Personally I'm not one to sell ounces.
Hell you do that in NYC you'd be making more than 20g's 
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Jeff Funk
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I know what you mean. But trust me dont deal with a lot of people
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psilonaut2000
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Re: high yield help!!! [Re: Jeff Funk]
#316343 - 11/15/09 11:20 PM (15 years, 15 days ago) |
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Minimal transactions on the DL son
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