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 Jrsxt
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 Building a box 
#17252 - 05/02/08 01:02 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've got a few seeds germinating in the windowsill right now. One is about 3 inches tall. My friend has the wood to build a box. How big do I need to make this box? How many different parts? And what all should I put in it? I was thinking about making the whole front open up with hinges.
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 Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: Building a box [Re: Jrsxt]
#17259 - 05/02/08 01:22 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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That's really all up to you man. Keep in mind a plant will streatch 2-3 times it's size when you put it into flowering, and the larger your plant is= more yield. I'd say make it at least 4-5 feet tall, but you could make it smaller if you're using CFL's instead of HID lighting.
Here's a picture of my box, it's a converted 4 door filing cabinet.
Your main concern with a small growing space like that is adequate ventilation. It's not hard to get enough air flow to keep your plants happy, it's just hard to keep temps down if you're using HPS bulbs (I have a 250W)
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Jrsxt
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I'm just going to use some regular flourescent lights. I just found one at the house. It's only 510 lumens, 15 watts. I don't know if its strong enough, but it was laying around. The problem with it being like 5 foot is that it will be hard to get into my place.Unless I just built it here. I was going to use a computer fan for ventilation.
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: Building a box [Re: Jrsxt]
#17334 - 05/02/08 02:55 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Why wouldn't you build it there? It's way more sketchy to assemble a grow box somewhere else and move it in than to just build it in your garage and never let anyone else see it.
Also, 510 lumens is going to grow really shitty pot. Get another 3-4 of those and you'll be somewhat closer to true dankness.
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Jrsxt
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It's going in an apartment. I might just build it here. So what kind of lights should I get for it? I'd like to use flourescents, because I have read about grows with them recently.
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: Building a box [Re: Jrsxt]
#17354 - 05/02/08 03:15 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Just reading about grows using them doesn't automatically make them a good option. I've read about people getting kicked in the nuts, but I don't want to try it anytime soon.
They're not the worst way to grow pot, some people have had very nice yields and quality come from them, but you're going to need a fuck-ton more than 15W worth. If you're buying a bunch more lighting fixtures to house all your flourescents, you might as well just get an HPS lamp and grow the dankest nugs you can. IF you still really want to use Fluoros, you should go the compact route, just so they don't take up too much room in your small space.
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Jrsxt
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Well, I can get a 400 watt hps..I just didn't know if it would be necessary. I don't want to run up the electricity too much.
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: Building a box [Re: Jrsxt]
#17696 - 05/02/08 09:29 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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How big of a box are you building? For anything up to about 3'x3' I would say a 400W is too large. It'll generate waaay too much heat for sucha small cabinet. For example, my cabinet there is 22" by 18" and with a 250W hps and complete air exchange every 10 seconds, I'm still around 85 degrees on average... if I had a 400W my plants would be fried.
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Jrsxt
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That's about the size of the box I built. What all will I need in it? What kind of ventilation do you use? I was going to put a computer fan on the side of it and another hole for the air to leave.
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: Building a box [Re: Jrsxt]
#26268 - 05/11/08 03:54 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have a squirrel-cage fan that moves a little over 100 cubic feet of air per minute. It's way overkill for a box that size in terms of what the plants require, but it's absolutely necessary (and possibly even slightly inadequate) for keeping the temp under control.
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mel_lonta_tauda
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i think cfl's come in handy for small areas. especially for a box
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Harry_Ba11sach
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yes, I think they would be a nice alternative for a situation like this. I've heard bad things about bud density and yield, but people with boxes this size aren't growing for record harvests anyway.
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Jrsxt
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Where can I get CFL's? What do I need to look for? Will the PC fan not be enough?
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coda
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Re: Building a box [Re: Jrsxt]
#27083 - 05/11/08 11:56 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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http://my.neutralexistence.com/images/CFL_sky.jpg
you can get these ^^ cfl's at home depot
http://www.agri-culture.eu/catalog/images/CFL_SB_125W.jpg
you can find these as well, but, i don't think home depot carries them. Probably have to find a specialty shop or order online
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dutchmushroom
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Re: Building a box [Re: coda]
#27269 - 05/12/08 03:19 AM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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the box i grow in is like 3 foot wide 3 feet deep and about 5'3 tall
it cost me just under 50 to make, i have it cut in half the top for flower and the bottom for veg, perpetual harvests for the win!!
peace out Dm
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Jrsxt
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Nice. How many would you suggest for the small box im building?
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Re: Building a box [Re: Jrsxt]
#27339 - 05/12/08 07:59 AM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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i put 8 mini clones in my flower part, and i put to in every two weeks and harvest two every two weeks, but it really depends on how much light and how much room you got bro,
i grow northern lights exclusively, which is a compact indica, and i take clones a flower them after a very short veg, but not a soon as they root (very very good high from this strain, nice and couch locky lol)
i got a 250w hps for flower, but you couldn't fit 8 normal plants under that thing, my plants are really small, but i always manage a nice harvest, always have bud to smoke,
i wouldn't call my grows a see of green because the plants arn't THAT small, plus they arn't really that crampt,
i would recomend you get mylar and cover the walls of your cab with it, that way there is verry little light loss, i have my cab walls coverd with it, and it is so fucking bright in there you can barely see, and even with only 250w for eight plants the buds are always nice and compact and not airy, and i believe the mylar plays a big part in that, i am always very happy with my yeilds, and i have got about .89 grams per watt of light which is pretty damn good for a 250w
peace out Dm
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"The bus came by and I got on, and thats when it all began"
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Jrsxt
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I mean how many CFL's?
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dutchmushroom
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Re: Building a box [Re: Jrsxt]
#27344 - 05/12/08 08:23 AM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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well i use 100w of cfl just for vegging, but if your gonna flower i would have atleast 50w per plant, and since cfl's don't penatrate as good as hps's i would put a couple at the bottoms of the plants, so the buds get light from all directions
peace out Dm
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"Comes a time when the blind man takes your hand says: don't you see? Gotta make it some how, on the dreams you still believe, Don't give it up, you've got an empty cup, only love can fill, only love can fill"
"The bus came by and I got on, and thats when it all began"
250w Digital HPS Growlight kit, ballast/lightbulb/reflector +Organic Botanicare Pure Blend Pro nutes Sale or Trade
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Pipesmoker Elf
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Can you post some pics with your grow room?
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