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coda
Registered: 04/20/08
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Hempy Buckets
#10253 - 04/23/08 09:18 AM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've been reading about this method of cultivation for a few weeks now. It's similar to hanky's coco method but it uses different medium and a mod to a bucket to make the system idiot proof.
Basically its taking a 3-5 gallon plastic bucket, drill a hole two inches from the bottom of the bucket, then fill the bucket with a 50/50 mix of verm and perlite. You water it just like hanky does with his coco, this system does use a lot of nutes and requires a decent amount of watering, but you have the added benefit of the hole in the bucket which prevents overwatering.
Basically the bucket is made to simulate a water table in nature. Early on you keep the waterings light and centered around the stem of the plant as the roots grow down to the bottom of the bucket. The two inches of the bucket below the hole act as a resevoir. The roots grow through the medium and hit the rez and then just go crazy. As i already stated the hole in the bucket is for overflow, once the roots hit the bottom you water the bucket until you see a little drainage and then stop. The plant then sucks the water up in the rez and thrives. Another added benefit to this system is you don't have to balance your PH, you don't need PPM/TDS/EC meters, and you can feed your plants full strength nutes from the get go. (EDIT: Yah, definitely wrong on this one lol. Even though hempy claims you don't need one, you do. Spend the cash and get a decent meter) The last, and biggest, bonus is that these things are insanely cheap to build and fill with medium.
I'll be making a hempy bucket in the future to toss in next to my soil girls. If it proves to be as easy as i've read im switching over permanently from soil.
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SmallTime
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Re: Hempy Buckets [Re: coda]
#10620 - 04/23/08 02:59 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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I don't understand how it makes it so you don't have to balance pH and can give full strength nutes from the start.
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coda
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Re: Hempy Buckets [Re: SmallTime]
#10636 - 04/23/08 03:16 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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Verm and Perlite are additive free and don't effect your PH. Because there are no additives within the medium you can start feeding full strength right from the get go. The person who designed the system used GH's 3 part nutrient lineup and noted that at full strength PH of his solution was around 6.0-6.2.
(EDIT: Hempy must be extremely lucky, you would be better off buying a meter and testing your solution)
You don't have to feed at full strength if you don't want to, but, you are able to. You can buy a meter if you feel it's needed but the majority of people who use this system don't even bother and have some damn good results.
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pornorob
Registered: 05/03/08
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Re: Hempy Buckets [Re: coda]
#18104 - 05/03/08 08:19 AM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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What I'm wondering is where i'd get rid of buckets of verm and perlite. Coir or soiless I can dump in my compost but I don't think I'd want to dump 9, 5 gallon buckets of v/p mix in it a few times a year.
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coda
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Re: Hempy Buckets [Re: pornorob]
#18254 - 05/03/08 12:43 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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if you wanted to, although i wouldn't bother, you can reuse the perlite.
However in this day and age we have a wonderful invention called a black trash bag. Works pretty well at concealing the contents, it's portable, fits in your trunk, and deposits pretty well in random trash dumpsters.
I got rid of all my old soil that way. Would bag it up with a fresh bag, wait til it was dark out, throw the bag in my trunk, and head over to a random apartment and dump the bag in a dumpster.
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Lucky7s
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Re: Hempy Buckets [Re: coda]
#26962 - 05/11/08 10:26 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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Edited by Lucky7s (08/13/09 10:56 PM)
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coda
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Re: Hempy Buckets [Re: Lucky7s]
#27080 - 05/11/08 11:53 PM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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there are plenty of ways to revitalize your soil. I just didn't have the room or ability to do so. It was a lot easier for me to just trash it and start fresh, but fuck was it expensive lol.
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highasfuck
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Re: Hempy Buckets [Re: coda]
#27090 - 05/12/08 12:03 AM (16 years, 7 months ago) |
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Once agian, coda thanks for being the only mod that gives two shits about this place. Great info btw.
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Slay the Dragon
Registered: 07/02/08
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Re: Hempy Buckets [Re: coda]
#69922 - 07/02/08 10:53 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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coda said: I've been reading about this method of cultivation for a few weeks now. It's similar to hanky's coco method but it uses different medium and a mod to a bucket to make the system idiot proof.
Basically its taking a 3-5 gallon plastic bucket, drill a hole two inches from the bottom of the bucket, then fill the bucket with a 50/50 mix of verm and perlite.
You're wrong, The ratio of Perlite to Vermiculite is 3:1 or even 4:1.
the original thread by Hempy himself
You don't know how excited I am that this method is spreading, this is probably the simplest most idiot proof way to grow weed and its growing popularity means more large scale grows.
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captain.koons
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Registered: 06/25/08
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you could collect the run off nutrients and feed them to another plant too
this seems pretty awesome.
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tonysoprano6379
Registered: 02/02/09
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Re: Hempy Buckets [Re: coda]
#234539 - 05/31/09 11:31 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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I would disagree with a few things here. ( Not meaning to jump your thread)
I grow 100% Hempy buckets. All indoor........
First thing, the mix is 3:1 Perilite to Verm (# parts perl, 1 part verm) I usually mix that amount bulk in a canister. For the adventurous you can use 100% Perilite....( have started from germed seed straight to perilite.....
When you nute, you must PH the water!!!! Perilite is PH neutral but to maximize your nutrient absorbtion rate, you MUST PH.........
I personally love this method, my Brother and I grow exculsive HEMPY!!! It rocks...
Pics to come soon
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tonysoprano6379
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And I almost forgot,,,,,,
For all you soil growers, faster growth....... NO PESTS>>>> Hempy Rocks!!!
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Registered: 04/20/08
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Loc: Nepal
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I would love to see some pictures of your results. Soil is awesome, and the hippies love hearing the shit is organic, but hempy buckets sound like the best introductory hydroponic method I've heard of in awhile
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tonysoprano6379
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Like I said I will get some pics rolling in the next few days. The beautiful thing about it is that is you use the organic nutes you'll have the best of both worlds......... And Dro' prices.........
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lilmafia513
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Re: Hempy Buckets [Re: coda]
#234767 - 05/31/09 08:29 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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coda said: I've been reading about this method of cultivation for a few weeks now. It's similar to hanky's coco method but it uses different medium and a mod to a bucket to make the system idiot proof.
Basically its taking a 3-5 gallon plastic bucket, drill a hole two inches from the bottom of the bucket, You forgot to mention it varies on size of pot yiou are using... and that it should be a 1 inch hole 2 inches from the bottom. then fill the bucket with a 50/50 mix of verm and perlite. Actually it 3 parts perlite to 1 part vermiculite. You water it just like hanky does with his coco, this system does use a lot of nutes and requires a decent amount of watering, but you have the added benefit of the hole in the bucket which prevents overwatering. The point of the hole is to allow more oxygen to the rootzone. i water my hempys every other day, in plastic cups, every three days in 5 gallon pots.
Basically the bucket is made to simulate a water table in nature. Early on you keep the waterings light and centered around the stem of the plant as the roots grow down to the bottom of the bucket. Not true, you water until you see water come out the hole, otherwise the little bit you put in will be evaporated by the end of the day.... The two inches of the bucket below the hole act as a resevoir. The roots grow through the medium and hit the rez and then just go crazy. As i already stated the hole in the bucket is for overflow, oxygen once the roots hit the bottom you water the bucket until you see a little drainage and then stop. The plant then sucks the water up in the rez and thrives. Another added benefit to this system is you don't have to balance your PH, you don't need PPM/TDS/EC meters, and you can feed your plants full strength nutes from the get go Bro, if you do this, your plants will die. You always check PH, if not the plant will not take up the nutrients needed. You never slam full nutes to a plant from the jump, always introduce nutes gradually to prevent burning... The last, and biggest, bonus is that these things are insanely cheap to build and fill with medium.
I'll be making a hempy bucket in the future to toss in next to my soil girls. If it proves to be as easy as i've read im switching over permanently from soil.
My question is.....Why in gods name would you try to provide ionformation on something you have never done?? I use hempys, you obviously do not....ANYBODY WANT REAL USEFULL INFORMATION, please get at me. I can help you grow great trees in hempy buckets with pics to prove it. Just ask, as i know i am a newb, only to this site. Been on another i don't think i'll mention for sometime. There they have the hempy collective, maybe i can pull some of my journals off and paste them into my own thread, but a newb, so if any questions or can give me some info on this new site, please get ahold of me.
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lilmafia513
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Re: Hempy Buckets [Re: coda]
#234768 - 05/31/09 08:32 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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coda said: Verm and Perlite are additive free and don't effect your PH. Because there are no additives within the medium you can start feeding full strength right from the get go. The person who designed the system used GH's 3 part nutrient lineup and noted that at full strength PH of his solution was around 6.0-6.2.
You don't have to feed at full strength if you don't want to, but, you are able to. You can buy a meter if you feel it's needed but the majority of people who use this system don't even bother and have some damn good results.
I am curious as to if you even know who actually started this setup? The mix does not have any special power to repel un-PH'd water...LOL!! Can i please see some pics of the grow you have going on?
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lilmafia513
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Slay the Dragon said:
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coda said: I've been reading about this method of cultivation for a few weeks now. It's similar to hanky's coco method but it uses different medium and a mod to a bucket to make the system idiot proof.
Basically its taking a 3-5 gallon plastic bucket, drill a hole two inches from the bottom of the bucket, then fill the bucket with a 50/50 mix of verm and perlite.
You're wrong, The ratio of Perlite to Vermiculite is 3:1 or even 4:1.
the original thread by Hempy himself
You don't know how excited I am that this method is spreading, this is probably the simplest most idiot proof way to grow weed and its growing popularity means more large scale grows.
I was looking, but then i read this post. thanks for posting that here, if i get some free time, i'll post my hempy transplanting tutorial from my other site. This is my tutorial and not someone elses, so please dont think i am copying some other work and claiming it for mine. Give me some time, me and you, and tonysoprano can teach these boys all about the hempy grows!!
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lilmafia513
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Harry_Ba11sach said: I would love to see some pictures of your results. Soil is awesome, and the hippies love hearing the shit is organic, but hempy buckets sound like the best introductory hydroponic method I've heard of in awhile
Ask and you shall receive my brotha'!!!
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Registered: 04/20/08
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Loc: Nepal
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Dude, I literally already had the Hempy Collective thread open in my other browser as I was reading your post. If you were indeed involved with that thread then I would certainly say you have experience! Wow!
On the other hand, I have seen MANY gorgeous pictures of grows by Coda, and I don't think you should be so quick to discount his experience either He may not do it exactly how you do, but I can say that he canc certainly get it done
Welcome to the Growery buddy, I'm glad to see another experienced participant around here!
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lilmafia513
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i understand he may have a great level of knowledge when it comes to growing ganja, but he is giving advice on a setup he has never used, and only read about. I am by no means trying to diminish his rep on this site, but think he just use it before he promotes it to work out the kinks he learns on his first hempy grow. I think he was mislead by what he read, and am only trying to clear it up for him before he attempts what he read.....and fails his first hempy grow. Just want his first time to be the best time...LOL!!!
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