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SpaceMonkey said:
Religion is crap!
Some pot heads back in the day of jesus wrote the bible. It's a book of laws and of hope for people who need it! Jesus only becomes popular in most peoples lives when they hit rock bottom, then all of a sudden it was jesus that brought them back out of it!  Blah, fuckin blah!!!

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spacemonkey69 said:
I used to follow the Tao (trying to now)

But lately i just have to go with Hedonism.

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Dr. Siekadellyk said:
screw religion.... i believe what i believe and thats that, everyone else should too without the force of another trying to push their beliefs on to you and if you dont accept they label you in a bad way.....my beliefs dont fit in a catagory, groups only put up boundaries and start fights if the "other" doesnt believe in what they do......im just gonna stop typing before I get too post crazy.....religion pisses me off.....

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spacemonkey69 said:
Doitagain is a jew. 

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spacemonkey69 said:
Doitagain is a jew. 

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ThreeLittleBirds said:
one girl I work with told me she was 1/4 Jewish I don't get making that claim to people it made me laugh mostly because she is very ignorant and has no knowledge on Judaism.

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THEBats said:
blah.  religion doesn't start wars, people do.  if not religion it would be race or some other issue.  if anything it's difference that cause war.

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THEBats said:
blah.  religion doesn't start wars, people do.  if not religion it would be race or some other issue.  if anything it's difference that cause war.

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SpaceMonkey said:
Religion i think was made as a way to rule the people of the time. Kinda to set the structure of society. Basic human traits that needed structure and rule, murder, thievery, lying, cheating. Human animals seem to be good if they know that they can do all the bibles say and be rewarded. Cause honestly that's what it all amounts too. You follow the rules your going to go to heaven. But see the thing i never got was, if God is this all caring, ever forgiving, caring compassionate power. Then why does he demand 10% of your income. God should understand if you can not give them the 10% and still be good with it? Sounds corporate to me! As matter of fact i was born catholic and why does the Vatican have its own country basically? They have their own police, their own everything. But your supposed to believe that if you keep donating to the church it will go to help other christian/catholic people. Bullshit Roman Catholics have built a country on your money! Go figure the longest religion to stay alive from the bible days. If you ever read the bible it is like all the stories are guidelines setting examples your supposed to live, and the repercussions for not doing so etc. When it was written, things were different, people thought different. I mean when a civilization can think that a storm was a wrath of gods fury, come on!

Science may not be able to prove yet how things were created at this time. however, take a look around you. All living things are essentially the same. We all are born, live life, reproduce and then die. A tree does this, a plant does it other animals do this. Everything on this planet has a life cycle. Everything beyond this planet has a lifecycle. So why would we be any different. We all evolved from chemical combinations, and then adapted to the environment.

My ex wife's family was very in your face christian. so debating religion was a fun pass time through that relationship. Here is a thought also! Lets say there was a master race of people who lived on mars. Mars was where modern humans came from. Since their has not been any evidence of where the missing link is in human evolution.Lets say life began on mars long ago, people went into self destruct mode kinda like we are doing here on earth. Ruin the atmosphere ejected key colonies of the red planet to earth. At which time the evolved race of people on earth started writing about gods coming to the planet and miracles happening. Maybe this god they speak of was a doctor from a mars colony. Maybe to the dumb people of the time could not describe what they saw other then as a god! Why did it take billions of years to get to intelligence? And just in a 100 years our civilization has advanced in technology greatly. Went from horse and buggies to sleak cars and trucks. Just think of the advances we made in just the time you have been alive. Ok, i will quit rambling again. Always liked the debate and always got charged and inspired by these discussions.

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Dr. Siekadellyk said:
screw religion.... i believe what i believe and thats that, everyone else should too without the force of another trying to push their beliefs on to you and if you dont accept they label you in a bad way.....my beliefs dont fit in a catagory, groups only put up boundaries and start fights if the "other" doesnt believe in what they do......im just gonna stop typing before I get too post crazy.....religion pisses me off.....

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i agree with you there.  i've never tried to force anything on anyone because it's not my place to make judgements to them.  all i've ever based my life upon is philosophy.  and in turn came ethics, morals, preferences, etc...etc.... 

just the root words: religion and politics put a bad taste in my mouth

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i practice wiccan.

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The Encyclopedia of the Occult is an interesting read 
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SpaceMonkey said:
Religion i think was made as a way to rule the people of the time. Kinda to set the structure of society. Basic human traits that needed structure and rule, murder, thievery, lying, cheating. Human animals seem to be good if they know that they can do all the bibles say and be rewarded. Cause honestly that's what it all amounts too. You follow the rules your going to go to heaven. But see the thing i never got was, if God is this all caring, ever forgiving, caring compassionate power. Then why does he demand 10% of your income. God should understand if you can not give them the 10% and still be good with it? Sounds corporate to me! As matter of fact i was born catholic and why does the Vatican have its own country basically? They have their own police, their own everything. But your supposed to believe that if you keep donating to the church it will go to help other christian/catholic people. Bullshit Roman Catholics have built a country on your money! Go figure the longest religion to stay alive from the bible days. If you ever read the bible it is like all the stories are guidelines setting examples your supposed to live, and the repercussions for not doing so etc. When it was written, things were different, people thought different. I mean when a civilization can think that a storm was a wrath of gods fury, come on!

Science may not be able to prove yet how things were created at this time. however, take a look around you. All living things are essentially the same. We all are born, live life, reproduce and then die. A tree does this, a plant does it other animals do this. Everything on this planet has a life cycle. Everything beyond this planet has a lifecycle. So why would we be any different. We all evolved from chemical combinations, and then adapted to the environment.

My ex wife's family was very in your face christian. so debating religion was a fun pass time through that relationship. Here is a thought also! Lets say there was a master race of people who lived on mars. Mars was where modern humans came from. Since their has not been any evidence of where the missing link is in human evolution.Lets say life began on mars long ago, people went into self destruct mode kinda like we are doing here on earth. Ruin the atmosphere ejected key colonies of the red planet to earth. At which time the evolved race of people on earth started writing about gods coming to the planet and miracles happening. Maybe this god they speak of was a doctor from a mars colony. Maybe to the dumb people of the time could not describe what they saw other then as a god! Why did it take billions of years to get to intelligence? And just in a 100 years our civilization has advanced in technology greatly. Went from horse and buggies to sleak cars and trucks. Just think of the advances we made in just the time you have been alive. Ok, i will quit rambling again. Always liked the debate and always got charged and inspired by these discussions.

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SpaceMonkey said:
Religion i think was made as a way to rule the people of the time. Kinda to set the structure of society. Basic human traits that needed structure and rule, murder, thievery, lying, cheating. Human animals seem to be good if they know that they can do all the bibles say and be rewarded. Cause honestly that's what it all amounts too. You follow the rules your going to go to heaven. But see the thing i never got was, if God is this all caring, ever forgiving, caring compassionate power. Then why does he demand 10% of your income. God should understand if you can not give them the 10% and still be good with it? Sounds corporate to me! As matter of fact i was born catholic and why does the Vatican have its own country basically? They have their own police, their own everything. But your supposed to believe that if you keep donating to the church it will go to help other christian/catholic people. Bullshit Roman Catholics have built a country on your money! Go figure the longest religion to stay alive from the bible days. If you ever read the bible it is like all the stories are guidelines setting examples your supposed to live, and the repercussions for not doing so etc. When it was written, things were different, people thought different. I mean when a civilization can think that a storm was a wrath of gods fury, come on!

Science may not be able to prove yet how things were created at this time. however, take a look around you. All living things are essentially the same. We all are born, live life, reproduce and then die. A tree does this, a plant does it other animals do this. Everything on this planet has a life cycle. Everything beyond this planet has a lifecycle. So why would we be any different. We all evolved from chemical combinations, and then adapted to the environment.

My ex wife's family was very in your face christian. so debating religion was a fun pass time through that relationship. Here is a thought also! Lets say there was a master race of people who lived on mars. Mars was where modern humans came from. Since their has not been any evidence of where the missing link is in human evolution.Lets say life began on mars long ago, people went into self destruct mode kinda like we are doing here on earth. Ruin the atmosphere ejected key colonies of the red planet to earth. At which time the evolved race of people on earth started writing about gods coming to the planet and miracles happening. Maybe this god they speak of was a doctor from a mars colony. Maybe to the dumb people of the time could not describe what they saw other then as a god! Why did it take billions of years to get to intelligence? And just in a 100 years our civilization has advanced in technology greatly. Went from horse and buggies to sleak cars and trucks. Just think of the advances we made in just the time you have been alive. Ok, i will quit rambling again. Always liked the debate and always got charged and inspired by these discussions.

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b0b gnarley said:

It was the megatrons and decepticons, bro.

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