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young seedlings
    #244963 - 07/01/09 12:55 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

OK, so here's the deal. My young seedlings are not happy. I've got them under 250hid 20 on 4 off. temps from 70-85F. Humidity from 39-53%. I use a spray bottle to mist them and keep the soil moist. Probably three to four times per day. Also, i water them every few days when the soil is getting dried out. Still they are looking crispy. the cotyledons are yellowing already and these plants are only 5 days old. I've already lost one last week. I'm not sure what the problem is. I don't think i'm overwatering...maybe underwatering. it seems like the soil dries out very often. maybe they need a very small nutrient infusion?
please any advice would be helpful. Here are the pics: (the last is an older, more mature plant. should I nute it yet?)

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Re: young seedlings [Re: zielonagora]
    #244971 - 07/01/09 01:08 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Clearer shots (NOTE the first leaf sets seemed healthier and larger before now...?? ) :


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Re: young seedlings [Re: zielonagora]
    #244975 - 07/01/09 01:09 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Where did you get these seeds? From a bag you bought?


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Re: young seedlings [Re: mhbound]
    #244977 - 07/01/09 01:14 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Yes. My friend is a caretaker for some MJ patients and one of his females produced the seeds.

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Re: young seedlings [Re: zielonagora]
    #244980 - 07/01/09 01:20 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

What did the seeds look like? I've used some seeds that were "immature" and the plants looked similar...They were outdoors is the only difference.

How close is the light and how often are you watering? The soil looks pretty dry from what I can see.


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Re: young seedlings [Re: mhbound]
    #244990 - 07/01/09 01:37 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Have you fertilized them at all? To much nitrogen to soon maybe.
And misting them that many times that young probably isn't good either.


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Re: young seedlings [Re: SpaceMonkey]
    #244995 - 07/01/09 01:44 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

the light is about 12-14 inches away. i water every couple of days. no ferts as of yet. I didn't want to scorch them. thanks for the posts.

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Re: young seedlings [Re: zielonagora]
    #244998 - 07/01/09 01:48 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

the seeds were pretty light in color. I know that the darker the more mature. This may be it. i've some others from the same batch of seeds and they seem to be getting along better. . so, generally speaking, what happens when they are immature? thanks

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Re: young seedlings [Re: zielonagora]
    #244999 - 07/01/09 01:49 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Mhbound maybe right then. I have never had anything like that happen so young.


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Re: young seedlings [Re: SpaceMonkey]
    #245007 - 07/01/09 02:09 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

mhbound?

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Re: young seedlings [Re: zielonagora]
    #245008 - 07/01/09 02:15 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

yeah i thought that foliar feeding wasnt recommended in the early stages of plant development? clones and seedlings, need to have the water coming from the roots, this helps develop a healthy root structure. if the leaves get all the water and nutrients there is no need for the roots.


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Re: young seedlings [Re: mhbound]
    #245012 - 07/01/09 02:24 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

mhbound said:
What did the seeds look like? I've used some seeds that were "immature" and the plants looked similar...They were outdoors is the only difference.

How close is the light and how often are you watering? The soil looks pretty dry from what I can see.




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Re: young seedlings [Re: SpaceMonkey]
    #245025 - 07/01/09 03:52 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Dude check your soil ph also, your soil looks like it has woods chips in it, usually a characteristic of cheaper soil, which will make your soil more acidic.

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Re: young seedlings [Re: ragtimewilly]
    #245027 - 07/01/09 04:05 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

no ph tester. no cash right now. any way to very slowly add alkaline to balance out acidity? i've heard eggshells work??

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Re: young seedlings [Re: zielonagora]
    #245038 - 07/01/09 05:22 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

What if you need to go the other way with your pH?

Need to test.


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Re: young seedlings [Re: KaptKid]
    #245045 - 07/01/09 05:59 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

lemon juice


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Re: young seedlings [Re: C3R3AL KiLLRx]
    #245058 - 07/01/09 07:06 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

lemon juice? i want the ph to go down. it's sitting between 7 and 8 according to a cheap ph meter from lowes

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Re: young seedlings [Re: zielonagora]
    #245074 - 07/01/09 07:48 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Don't know why but I always have to lower the pH of the water I hahve.


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Re: young seedlings [Re: KaptKid]
    #245076 - 07/01/09 07:53 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

KaptKid said:
What if you need to go the other way with your pH?

Need to test.



lemon juice up calcium bicarbonate down.


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Re: young seedlings [Re: C3R3AL KiLLRx]
    #245108 - 07/01/09 10:19 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

The higher the PH the more Basic the water is the lower the PH the more acidic. So if you are wanting to "lower" your PH levels then lemon juice is the way to go. Your soil does seem to be doing something bad though. Are you foliar feeding? If not there is no need to be spraying your babies leaves. All that will do is cause you problems and not do anything for your babies.

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