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 Single Bagseed Indoor LED Gamble 
#238422 - 06/10/09 07:29 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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I feel as though i should post one of these since some people have expressed interest in an LED grow.
I recently purchased a Homebox S, a Carbon scrubber filter, a vortex VTX400 inline fan...and a 90W LED grow light from growlLED.
I then took my only available seed (of unknown origins, it had been sitting on my desk for over a year...I soaked it in water for 12 hours...then planted in sphagnum peat moss and let it sprout
I then mixed up 5 gallons of a soil mix that contains:
1.75 gallons Sphagnum Peat Moss
1.75 gallons Perlite
.75 gallons of 50/50 Worm Castings/Black Kow
5 Tbsp Blood Meal
10 Tbsp Bone Meal
and a small scoop of polymer water crystals to decrease watering frequency
and transplanted the small seedling to a 12 inch pot filled with this mixture...and left it on 20/4 light schedule without watering for 1 week. When i returned, i found this:
 
it was 2 inches tall, 3 inches wide at the leaf tips, and working on its 4th node...so i watered and fertilized with a half-strength solution of MG 24-16-8 fertilizer, changed the lighting to 24/0, and left it again for 2 weeks without watering...this time i made a booboo...and didnt raise the light enough, and the plant grew into the light. Now LED's dont produce a lot of extra radiant heat downwards...so it only scorched the very top parts of the top leaves where it was physically in contact with the light...but it looked good:
  
this time it was 6 inches tall, 12 inches across, and working on it's 10th node, correct me if im wrong but that seems really dense...which is the way i would describe the growth...i cant hardly see the main stem...though it is 1/2 inch thick when i take a closer look. I could see the stipules showing, so i went ahead and switched to 12/12 lighting since i only have about 2 to 2.5 feet of overhead clearance, and installed 2 60W CFLs along with the LED light to add 7800 lumens to mix...in the 2700K color temperature, to help with flowering...I also loaded it up with Fox Farm's Big Bloom fertilizer and plenty of water...and it is now on the next 2 week neglect session...and I'm hoping and praying for a female!
This is my first time growing indoors...and i wanted to get some experience in with bagseed before i try good genetics...so feel free to offer suggestions...I will update in about 1.5 weeks with new pics.
Peace
agmotes165
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Re: Single Bagseed Indoor LED Gamble [Re: Data]
#241263 - 06/20/09 06:06 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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well as promised here is the update...
my plant is in week 2 of 12/12 lighting...it has shown some stretching
what im worried about is the water issue...I tried some aqua globes...2 of them in the same pot...and over 2 weeks the damn things ran dry...im thinking of getting a soaker hose hooked up to a fountain pump in a 5 gallon bucket...and running the pump on a timer...
I am seeing some of the newer branches looking burned on the tips of new growth...but its not near any light...Im afraid this may be a water or nute problem...
and now for pictures...
 
it is now 8 inches tall...and on all 3 apical meristems...11 nodes...it looks like the burn from last time upset the balance of hormonal power...and the node below the burn took over the job of apical meristem(s)...though the original one seems to have recovered and started growing again
here is one of the developing branches...can you see any sex indicators? I can't.
 
here are some pictures of the burned-looking undergrowth...is there anything i can do to help/fix that?
thanks for your help guys...i will update again either next week or the week after that
peace
agmotes165
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Re: Single Bagseed Indoor LED Gamble [Re: Data]
#241599 - 06/21/09 07:40 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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so here are a few extra pictures that i managed to get...they are a little clearer than the last few...enjoy
 
here is one of the branches that have formed...looks like a good bud-producing site to me...but im no expert
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Re: Single Bagseed Indoor LED Gamble [Re: bobby]
#241657 - 06/21/09 12:54 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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ok so i took geokills advice and trimmed a lot of the burned leaf material off, and a few of the big, dried out fan leaves around it to open up the canopy and allow light to reach the braches that were starving to death under them...you can see in these pics how the leaves underneath are pale and sickly looking...I believe this is due to lack of light...I think that the trimming should help out some...
warning...this plant is UGLY
sorry for the sideways picture
let me know if you notice anything obvious that I am doing wrong...I do not have a lot of experience with this and will appreciate any help i can get
thanks in advance
agmotes165
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Re: Single Bagseed Indoor LED Gamble [Re: Data]
#245168 - 07/02/09 07:04 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ok Update!!! This is week 9 since i germinated the seed...and week 4 since i initiated flowering...
So mucho thanks to geokills, and mucho thanks to inverted and everyone else that offered optimism...I believe its starting to pay off.
Plant is now 13 inches tall at its highest point, 20 inches wide at its widest point...and working on its 14th node on the main stem...
It is definitely a female...as is visible in the pictures...
 
 
So far I am very pleased...i do have some lower branches that are growing right under the higher branches though...and was wondering if i should tie them to move them to the side a little so that the lower flowering branches can get more light?
thanks again everyone...and i will post more pics in the next few days
agmotes165
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Re: Single Bagseed Indoor LED Gamble [Re: Audz]
#245286 - 07/02/09 01:09 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
Audz said:
Not sure if I missed it or not, but are you still rocking the LED panel? I noticed the CFLs in the last pics, is that supplemental?
Looking great, though!
LED's are still being rocked...I added 2 60W (300W equivalent) CFLs at 3900 lumens per bulb...in the 2700K range...just to help get some light at a few different angles to draw out the little branches hidden inside the forest...
I decided to tie down some branches to open up the canopy and spread the bud sites out a little so they can all receive ample light...here are some pics..
 
Before...
 
and after...
and here is a couple of the bud sites...i love these pictures...
 
let me know if you notice anything wrong...or if you have any suggestions...thanks again guys... 
agmotes165
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Re: Single Bagseed Indoor LED Gamble [Re: Data]
#251067 - 07/18/09 02:03 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ok the two week update is in...It is starting to develop nice little buds...and smells awesome...if you get close enough its kindof a sweet, fruity smell...very nice actually...about the same size as last time...just a little heavier with calyx material.
  
These pictures were taken when i first arrived on the scene...and it was a little dry...I noticed a few of the small leaves were droopy...and some of the bigger leaves have some orangy-yellow stuff down in the veins...and reddish-purple stems. Any idea what the problem is?
I think its from being a little on the dry side...and I know this is not optimal but from now till harvest i will be checking on it once a week instead of once every 2 weeks...
let me know what you think.
Peace
agmotes165
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Re: Single Bagseed Indoor LED Gamble [Re: Data]
#251229 - 07/18/09 09:05 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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thought i would do a little photo-manipulation to make these pics look kinda cool...
  
just thought i would include these since i like them...peace
agmotes165
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Re: Single Bagseed Indoor LED Gamble [Re: Inverted]
#254557 - 07/25/09 05:31 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ok...now my updates will be weekly until harvest...
This is Week 7 of flowering...Filling out nicely
with flash
without flash
   
some pics o the various buds forming...they smell delicious...
 
These two pics were taken through a jeweler's lupe...
i bought a brand new 120W led from the same company that i bought the 90W version from last week...so when i got it...i just switched them out. I am putting in a second tent but i wont start my next grow for a couple of weeks...so i figured this plant might enjoy some extra light...its supposed to be the equivalent of a 600W HPS light...and the 90 is supposed to be a 400W HPS equivalent.
The plant is about 14" tall, 30" wide...with many many branches
I am currently watering once a week (best I can do) with full strength fox farm big bloom. The water crystals seem to have been the only reason this grow has been successful given my neglectful watering schedule...I can load up that 3 gallon pot with about 1 gallon of water and it wont seep through the bottom...gets heavy as shit...anyway...let me know what you guys think.
Peace 
agmotes165
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Re: Single Bagseed Indoor LED Gamble [Re: Data]
#254572 - 07/25/09 07:47 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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More Pics...
   
Hope you like em
agmotes165
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Re: Single Bagseed Indoor LED Gamble [Re: Data]
#258244 - 07/31/09 04:51 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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ok so heres my weekly update on the way to harvest...week 9 in flowering
going very well...getting stinky though...its smelling through the new carbon filter and it get really noticable in the apartment when the lights come on and it gets hot...so i hooked the output of the fan into another carbon filter...so that it runs opposite the way its supposed to...that way the air sorta gets double filtered on the way out...i will probly do it this way...and hope for the best...
here some bud pics...
  
this one goes out to supersiege on his question earlier about undergrowth
with flash
and without...
i flushed the soil this morning in preparation of harvesting in the next 2 to 3 weeks...sent about 2 gallons through...until the water coming out the bottom was almost clear yellow instead of reddish brown...
let me know what you guys think, or tell me if im doing anything wrong..
peace
agmotes165
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Re: Single Bagseed Indoor LED Gamble [Re: supersiege]
#261222 - 08/07/09 12:03 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Weekly update:
     
some of the leaves are started to yellow a little...
 
and i noticed what looks like a small splotchy leaf right at the growth tip...any ideas on what it might be?
Also...any ideas on whether its ready...or if not how much longer does it need to go?
Thanks,
agmotes165
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 Re: Single Bagseed Indoor LED Gamble [Re: Data]
#261791 - 08/08/09 04:58 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm absolutely thrilled, lovin' to see how far this grow has come! 
When I first saw this thread, your plant looked like this...
Now after little more than a month and a half, you have harvested some beautiful buds! 
  Congratulations!
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Re: Single Bagseed Indoor LED Gamble [Re: Integra21]
#261875 - 08/08/09 08:29 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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I found out along the way that UVB was pretty much essential in THC production in the trichomes...which is why most HID lighting works well with MJ, since they give off decent amounts of UV light along with regular vegetative light. So while LED's are amazing for vegetative and flowering growth...they do seem to require some form of UV light source.
I have seen UV LED lights for sale on the internets, but UVB LEDs are pretty expensive. I used 2 60W nominal watt (300W equivalent) CFLs, 3900 lumens a piece, in the 2700K color temp not only for supplemental lumens, but also for a decent amount of UV light. I will be installing 1 40W UVB tanning bulb in each grow tent from now on to keep those trichomes working...and will post details in my satori grow log here in the next week or so.
The particular fixture used in this grow was a 90W Boxer Grow Light from growlLED (type that into google and click the first link) With the 7:1:1 ratio of red:blue:orange LED spectrums. I purchased a 120W model from the same company for my second grow tent.
anyway...time for pics of my trimmed harvest slow drying...
  
hope you guys like it...cant wait to try this out...
peace,
agmotes165
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Re: LED's [Re: geokills]
#262176 - 08/09/09 01:40 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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here's a few pics to help with the angle maybe...
  
the last one is for arrangement...
hope this helps...
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Re: LED's [Re: Data]
#269844 - 08/24/09 03:37 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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ok time for a smoke report of the un-cured bud.
The smoke was thick and deadly. I coughed really hard for a minute or two, it was definitely opaque in my new bong. Tasted like I was breathing cotton. I would assume this means that I really need to cure the hell out of it.
The high was intense. It was definitely a racy, cerebral high, at one point I felt like I was mildly tripping, and felt almost like a rotating crystalline being. After that I slept wonderfully with happy dreams all night long, and awoke refreshed. I did have a little bit of a sore throat, but I guess that comes with the territory. The bud now smells like lemon meringue pie, with a touch of pine.
I am attempting an experiment with water curing on a small bud, to see how that works on acrid tasting bud like this as compared to 30 days of jar-curing. I will keep you guys updated on the progress of that, but for now...enjoy some pictures 
 
  
lemme know whatchoo think
peace
agmotes165
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Re: LED's [Re: Data]
#274404 - 09/02/09 03:29 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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ok so my water-curing went well...
the one on the left was the bud i used for the water curing...the one on the right is one of the many buds that are air curing right now...
I will be testing this water cured bud tonight...so expect a smoke report in the near future...
peace,
agmotes165
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