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 Re: New government!  [Re: usg543]
#237466 - 06/08/09 12:25 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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usg543 said:
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triptonic said:
I think that government shouldnt be run by a president, but rather by the people of a country. Basically what I'm trying to say is that the people of this country should all be "president" and we
should all vote on things....If you support legalization of cannabis then you vote to support it. If you dont you vote not to support it. Of course we would be able to do this in the comfort of our own
home on the internet, and have a television channel with debates on ideas so we can make more informed decisions.
What is your idea for a perfect government?.....if there is such a thing.
there is no perfect government. you want the people running the show? do you really trust the masses? things are too complicated these days for a simple answer. the best answer i can think of would be a diversity of many different governments, and the ability to move between them easily, that way if you don't like one, you could leave and go to another. that would be like the people deciding. i think the US should split up honestly, or give the states back their power and reduce the federal government drastically. i support a small government myself, but i also understand that is just my opinion and not the opinion of everyone else.
either way though, there will always be corruption, and it will always be far from perfect.
anyways, in america we are brainwashed to think capitalism and our (not even true) democracy is the best answer. i think we should start thinking for ourselves. because really it's no different.
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usg ftw
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FurrowedBrow said:
They should teach african engineering at the college level. mcgyver 101
Harry_Ba11sach said:
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
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Re: New government! [Re: Triptonic]
#237472 - 06/08/09 12:49 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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I hate government in general but yes I think I would trust most things to the masses...people will vote on things that concern them. And wont vote on things that dont concern them.
what are you living in a goddamn dreamworld? it is ignorant to trust the masses. if everyone was educated and thought for themselves, that'd be a different story.
and just to play devil's advocate, why should we vote and let majority decide. guess you've never heard of the tyranny of the majority. you might want to look it up.
here's some quotes i found that were interesting while looking for another great quote i could not find:
“Democracy encourages the majority to decide things about which the majority is ignorant.”
“In matters of conscience, the law of the majority has no place.” - Ghandi
"We go by the major vote, and if the majority are insane, the sane must go to the hospital." - Horace Mann
basically why should 51% of people be able to make decisions for the other 49%? that's far from perfect.
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Re: New government! [Re: Triptonic]
#237474 - 06/08/09 12:51 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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here's the quote i was looking for:
A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where 51% of the people may take away the rights of the other 49%.
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Re: New government! [Re: usg543]
#237476 - 06/08/09 12:59 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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hey dude I can dream cant I?
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Re: New government! [Re: Triptonic]
#237522 - 06/08/09 07:13 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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the only way we would pull out of this mess that we are in is overthrowing the govt. we cannot borrow ourselves out of debt like we try do do continuously. Our entire system of living here in the states has been completely fucked. we need to start over.
hollywood undead said it best in there song city, and the song young.
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Re: New government! [Re: Yungpunk]
#237531 - 06/08/09 08:30 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: New government! [Re: Yungpunk]
#237536 - 06/08/09 09:36 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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You know I must pipe in on this one.
http://www.thevenusproject.com/
That is an interesting idea on how to solve many things today.
I don't believe in the monetary system, it is a weak way to govern people and is inevitable to fail.
But I won't say to much, let you all make your own decesions
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sequel to esoteric agenda, possibly the best movie there is on the subject Kymatica
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Re: New government! [Re: Ben18]
#237538 - 06/08/09 09:59 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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NICE!
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Re: New government! [Re: usg543]
#237559 - 06/08/09 11:20 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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usg543 said:
i think the US should split up honestly, or give the states back their power and reduce the federal government drastically. i support a small government myself, but i also understand that is just my opinion and not the opinion of everyone else.
I also support a small federal government and state supremacy. I would consider myself a liberal-leaning libertarian, so I believe that people should be responsible for themselves and not babied by the government. It makes sense to me that the people of each state should vote on matters of legalization of drugs, abortion, gay marriage, health-care, among many other things. Ideally the United States will have fifty different states in which people could choose to live in with their agreement to the laws.
Makes sense to me. 
edit: sorry, misquote.
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Edited by godspeedyou (06/09/09 12:07 AM)
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Re: New government! [Re: godspeedyou]
#237562 - 06/08/09 11:32 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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triptonic didn't say that.
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Re: New government! [Re: usg543]
#237603 - 06/08/09 01:23 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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yeah what the fuck.
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Re: New government! [Re: Triptonic]
#237787 - 06/08/09 10:24 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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dude, fuck government. pure democracy, socialism, nothing works.
i believe in surrealism, because i like putting peanut butter on ladies.
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godspeedyou
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Re: New government! [Re: b0b gnarley]
#237843 - 06/09/09 12:07 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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oops, sorry for the misquote guys.
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