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 yellownotepad
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 yellownotepad's second grow - adding a second room! 
#206937 - 03/19/09 10:53 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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so i'm starting up my second grow, with new genes and new equip. if you saw my last grow, i did all handwatered coco coir. this new one is a big mix. i'm putting in a 2x4ft ebb and flow table with a 40 gal res, a 4-bucket biobucket system (5gal buckets running recirculating DWC) with a 32 gal res, and lots more handwatered 2.5 gal pots of straight coco coir. going to be feeding the two hydro system gh floranova, and will be sticking with the method i finished the last grow with - h3ad's formula*.
genetics this round are -
-san fernando valley sour diesel cuts (currently 2x)
-san francisco gdp cuts (currently 1x)
-my own super silver haze clone line (currently 4x)
-a local super silver haze clone line (currently 16x)
-cinderella 99 (currently 1x)
-critical mass (currently 1x)
right now i'm constructing my second room, and vegging in the closet under my 600w hps. the new room is a freestanding frame built out of lumber - 5ft x 6ft 3in, 7ft tall. hanging a 600w inside there, and it will be connected to my closet (door removed) to form a sort of marijuana suite. the frame is semi-complete right now, i'll be finishing it later today. the vertical legs are 4"x4" lumber, and the rest of the frame is 2"x4". i'll post pictures when the frame is fully assembled. i'm going to double-wall it, stapling 3.5mil black plastic to the outside, and panda film to the inside of the frame.
lighting on this grow show will be two identical setups: 600w digital ballast (galaxy), yield master II air cooled hood with 6" flanges, and hortilux super hps bulb. i added a can50 carbon filter this time around (no more stinky house!), and will be sticking with my single 6" vortex pushing through both lights and out into the attic. i'm going to add some regular fans to push air around in my rooms this time, and will consider adding something to aid intake (maybe a duct booster).
more pics and rambling when i think of it!
*h3ad, aka gratefulh3ad (sp?) is a user over on icmag who developed the formula as follows (for daily feeding, no periodic flushing)- 6ml gh flora micro + 9ml gh flora bloom per gallon for veg and the first half of flower, 9ml gh flora bloom only beginning at last half of flower, and dropping bloom for the flush. you will find slight tweaks of the method and some debate, but this is my interpretation of it.
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 Dr. Penguin
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Re: yellownotepad's second grow - adding a second room! [Re: yellownotepad]
#207033 - 03/19/09 05:09 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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I love that those fine genetics get their own suite. Thats love 
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yellownotepad
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Re: yellownotepad's second grow - adding a second room! [Re: Dr. Penguin]
#207235 - 03/20/09 11:53 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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got the new flower room built last night and encountered my first major issue. the thing takes up a majority of my bedroom which isnt a problem, but my 6" vortex running all night (24hr veg) is LOUD. its like im sleeping next to a jet engine. 
will upload pics later today
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Dr. Penguin
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Re: yellownotepad's second grow - adding a second room! [Re: yellownotepad]
#207239 - 03/20/09 12:44 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well it just so happens I make a thread about how to deal with that! Here ya go
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yellownotepad
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Re: yellownotepad's second grow - adding a second room! [Re: Dr. Penguin]
#207242 - 03/20/09 12:53 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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can't dial speed down, need max cfm. its a 6" vortex pulling through a can 50 and pushing through two 600w hoods into the attic. going to have to try and dampen / muffle the noise.
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Dr. Penguin
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Re: yellownotepad's second grow - adding a second room! [Re: yellownotepad]
#207244 - 03/20/09 01:03 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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You might still want to consider it, dialing the fan down will reduce the noise level far more than it will reduce airflow. If even a bit of speed control isn't an option, try insulated ducting, suspending the fan with bungie-cords, and building the fan into a box lined with fireproof insulation. A duct muffler may help at the end of your exhaust but I don't really think so as the sound problem is close to you, not in the attic.
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yellownotepad
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Re: yellownotepad's second grow - adding a second room! [Re: Dr. Penguin]
#207632 - 03/22/09 01:49 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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status on the plants:
the 12 SSH i have in the table are doing well, i topped/pruned them in order to get all the plants to the same size, and ended up throwing 6 cuts into the cloner. the res now has about 400ppm floranova grow, will ramp up over the next week or so.
in coir i have my GDP from san fran, the hairy sfv sour d cut, and local cuts of C99 and critical mass. the sour d and c99 are pretty lanky, and the critical mass is going slightly slower than the others. the GDP is my favorite so far, its bushing out like CRAZY. awesome compact growth with loads and loads of lower shooots begging to be thrown into teh cloner.
in the cloner - 4 of my own ssh line, 6 of the local ssh, 1 of the sfg sour d. going to add more cuts in pretty soon.
currently just vegging under the single 600w, will hang the other one in the next few days.
got a tds pen yesterday, its awesome! but i discovered my tap water is sitting at 580ppm out the faucet :-(
pics coming soon.
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yellownotepad
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Re: yellownotepad's second grow - adding a second room! [Re: yellownotepad]
#208185 - 03/24/09 12:09 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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oh my jesus god i just tweeked my shoulder while trying to hang the second light. i think i need to add center beams to be able to get the lights to hang right, right now they both are hung by hooks on the frame and i messed my shoulder up trying to hang them right. and killed 2 of my ssh in the process....baahhh 
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yellownotepad
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Re: yellownotepad's second grow - adding a second room! [Re: yellownotepad]
#209337 - 03/26/09 10:19 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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yellownotepad
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Re: yellownotepad's second grow - adding a second room! [Re: yellownotepad]
#209340 - 03/26/09 10:27 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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so the room is up and running, vegging on 24/0 right now. room temps are sitting at 81-83*F and 45%rh (temps vary due to house thermostat). the 2x4 table in the pics is all SSH in hydroton.
i'm not sure whether to switch the setup there, right now the netpots hang into the water about 1" when the table is flooded (every 2 hours). the roots dont seem to be growing outside the pots very much.... i didnt take a pic but here's a diagram
should i set the netpots into bigger pots of hydroton to give the roots something to hide inside / grow around?
half the room will be the 2x4 table with hydroton and gh flora nutes using the lucas formula. a screen will be going over this to occupy half the room. the other half will be all handwatered coco in the h3ad formula, again a scrog. i am not so much testing yields as i am which is easier to manage. right now i have gdp, sour d, c99, and critical mass in 8" pots of coco. i just threw a bunch of cuts of everything plus the two different ssh clone lines im running. will drop them wherever i see fit. scrog will go up once we get closer to flower time. i figure when this next set of cuts roots up, i'll transplant them and once they've caught up begin scrogging. once the main room goes into flower i'll stash cuts of all the strains into my closet in pots of ocean forest to keep as mothers for next run.
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AKSE
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Re: yellownotepad's second grow - adding a second room! [Re: yellownotepad]
#209343 - 03/26/09 10:45 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Very nice. How far along are the ones in the second pic? And is that a deep water culture in #3?
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yellownotepad
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Re: yellownotepad's second grow - adding a second room! [Re: AKSE]
#209353 - 03/26/09 11:10 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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the ones in teh second have about 3 weeks of veg on them (by someone else) and no thats not a dwc, thats my diy aero cloner (basically an ezcloner replica).
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yellownotepad
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Re: yellownotepad's second grow - adding a second room! [Re: yellownotepad]
#209595 - 03/28/09 11:27 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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yellownotepad
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Re: yellownotepad's second grow - adding a second room! [Re: yellownotepad]
#211631 - 04/02/09 09:17 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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is anyone following this thread? just wondering if i should be bothering to keep it updated
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KaptKid
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 Re: yellownotepad's second grow - adding a second room! [Re: yellownotepad]
#211643 - 04/02/09 09:23 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yes,Keep on post'in.
I keep up a grow log so I can look back over after the grow.
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Child of the 60's, Tripping ever sence.
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Dr. Penguin
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Re: yellownotepad's second grow - adding a second room! [Re: KaptKid]
#211798 - 04/03/09 10:05 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Im watching
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Ben18
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Re: yellownotepad's second grow - adding a second room! [Re: Dr. Penguin]
#211799 - 04/03/09 10:12 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Keep it up yellownotepad, doing good work here.
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herd
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Re: yellownotepad's second grow - adding a second room! [Re: Ben18]
#211802 - 04/03/09 10:32 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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yeah I'm in the back lurking.
on a quest of perpetual knowledge on growing.
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Stoneth
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Re: yellownotepad's second grow - adding a second room! [Re: yellownotepad]
#211853 - 04/03/09 01:18 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm watching and learning man.
Keep up the good work.
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AKSE
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Re: yellownotepad's second grow - adding a second room! [Re: Stoneth]
#211873 - 04/03/09 02:18 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yep, also watching. Question...what would be the outcome if someone were to use fertilizer (for soil) for hydroponics, rather than using hydroponic nutrients?
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