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Re: First grow, log of my 15 friends developement. [Re: The_Centre]
    #196585 - 02/16/09 10:55 AM (15 years, 11 months ago)

Very nice! I can't wait to see these girls when they are all grown up. Not to mention that seeing nice sunny pictures like that makes me forget the frigid tundra that is my homeland currently.


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    #202860 - 03/04/09 10:52 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Bad news about your dog, I'm glad she made it. Great news about the plants though! I can't wait to see how their coming along.


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Re: First grow, log of my 15 friends developement. [Re: The_Centre]
    #204685 - 03/11/09 01:23 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Those plants are looking great! I love the pic looking down the leaf blade, so cool. The one with the 'preflowers' looks more like stipules to me but I really can't tell from that picture. The easiest way to determine sex early is to look at preflower primordia formation, males usually have multiple little pieces of tissue that looks like a cluster of balls and will start to grow outwards born on little stalks (think banana), females generally have only one ball of tissue and it will be slightly oblong (think American football). (Be careful though, sometimes males will only form one flower/ball at the branch nodes and it will look like a female but the distinct oblong shape is missing.)


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Re: First grow, log of my 15 friends developement. [Re: The_Centre]
    #204694 - 03/11/09 02:23 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Stipules are the 'two hair things' that grow from the nodes at the base of the petiole (leaf stem). If it is anything other than the stipules it is most likely preflowers.

I do not know dutch so I can't comment on the sentence, but it is a language I know I will have to learn in the foreseeable future so thanks for the reminder.


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Re: First grow, log of my 15 friends developement. [Re: The_Centre]
    #204753 - 03/11/09 06:07 PM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Preflowers appear around the beginning of sexual maturity. If you go back through your pictures though you will notice the alternating branch nodes. That to me is a clear indication of maturity in my plants.

If you are asking whether or not they will flower on their own, that is a question of photoperiod. Plants that have been vegging for a year, like my bonsai mothers, will have preflowers on them but they will not flower without the required hours of darkness (generally 12).


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Re: First grow, log of my 15 friends developement. [Re: The_Centre]
    #205291 - 03/13/09 08:12 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

Yup, different strains have different photoperiod requirements.

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An excerpt from: Breeding Tips by DJ Short

Inducing Sativa

After many years of first-hand experience breeding herb indoors as well as outdoors, I am of the opinion that the two most influential factors involving phenotypic variation and expression among current indoor herb breeding projects are the photoperiod (hours of light per day) and the angle of light in relationship to the growing plant.

Specifically, I find the single most powerful influence to the Indica dominant phenotype is the traditional 18/6 veggie cycle and 12/12 flowering cycle. The 18/6 veggie and 12/12 flower cycle is an attempt, however poor, to mimic the Indica-producing photoperiod. It is my belief that this light cycle strongly influences for Indica phenotypic expression.

Sativa phenotype characteristics will manifest under a more equatorial photoperiod, closer to a 13/11 veggie cycle and an 11/13 flower cycle. This is the light timing range to use to elicit more Sativa dominant expression from your plants.

As for the exact photoperiod formula that I incorporate into my growing/breeding regime, this will presently remain a trade secret. My advice is to experiment with different photoperiods, keep good notes and pay attention. Avoid the 18/6 and 12/12 photoperiods, while tweaking the times a bit differently with each breeding cycle until more desirable results in the finished product and their offspring are noted. Here's a hint: work in half-hour increments or a little less, and good luck!

Angle of Light

Angle of light simply refers to the physical angle of light source the plant is dependent upon for growth. Perhaps the greatest difference between indoor and outdoor environments has to do with the angle of light received by the plant. This is also one of the greatest seasonal differences between the Sativa and Indica producing regions.

Outdoors, the main light source is the Sun, with minor influence coming from nearby reflective surfaces. As a plant grows taller and broader outdoors, that angle of light from the sun changes very little in relationship to the growing plant.

Seasonal changes in angle of light increase the further away from the equator one gets. At the equator there is the least amount of seasonal change in angle of light, only about 20°, whereas at the 45th parallel that change is as great as 45°. At the 45th latitude, the Summer Sun is high in the sky while during early Spring and late Fall the sunlight comes from much lower in the sky. The farther one goes from the equator, the greater the difference in seasonal changes regarding angle of light.

Indoors, the lights typically range from a few inches to several feet from the plant. As the plant grows taller, its physical relationship to the bulb's angle of light changes considerably. Most indoor grow rooms have relatively low ceilings, therefore, raising the bulbs may maintain a similar angle of light early on, but eventually the angle changes. The same differences may be noted among plants directly below the bulb and the plants off to the side of the room farther away from the bulb.

Circular light shuttles tend to emulate the arctic summer and create a confusing signal completely unknown to the equatorial Sativa. Straight-track overhead light shuttles are more conducive to inducing the Sativa phenotype.







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Re: First grow, log of my 15 friends developement. [Re: The_Centre]
    #205738 - 03/15/09 09:44 AM (15 years, 10 months ago)

How'd it go? Any more close calls? Stay safe!


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Re: First grow, log of my 15 friends developement. [Re: The_Centre]
    #222417 - 05/02/09 02:06 PM (15 years, 9 months ago)

Bad news! I was loving your girls. Got any more pics of whats left?


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