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First-time CFL closet grow: Big Bang and SSH *Completed*
    #163116 - 12/15/08 10:58 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

I've been meaning to make one of these journal threads for a while now but never got around to it.

This is my first grow and I'm as excited as a kid at christmas. The grow room is a small closet with one 1x125w 2700K Envirolite CFL bulb and 2x32w 6400K bulbs. It is housing a Big Bang plant and a Super Silver Haze, feminized seeds from Green House. The soil is a mixture of mushroom compost and ordinary potting soil. There were not a lot of soil to choose from at my supply store. The temperature ranges from 26-31°c, relative humidity is around 40-50% but recently it has gotten as high as 65%.

Older pics:


There was a small accident with the SSH as I misjudged how moist the soil was and didn't water but the damage was minimal. During vegetation I added fertilizer with every other watering. The fertilizer is called "Schultz All Purpose Plant Food" and has 24-8-16 NPK rating. No nutrition related problems have occurred.

15.12.2008
Today is the 4th day of 12/12 after vegging for 3 weeks, and my Big Bang stretched so much last night she almost grew in to the CFL bulb. The other plant, a peculiar Super Silver Haze has not been stretching as much, contrary to what I expected. Maybe the SSH is not much of a sativa as I thought or perhaps the fact that it has two main colas has something to do with it?

SSH

Big Bang

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I've been keeping pruning to a minimum this growth, only removing some small tiny grow on the first internode that was receiving almost no light.

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Re: First-time CFL closet grow: Big Bang and SSH [Re: blueberry D]
    #166222 - 12/20/08 12:37 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

20.12.08 30 days of growth

Big Bang:

SSH:




I have a question that will answer itself in a few weeks if no-one here does: Where do the buds form?
Also, I haven't spotted any preflowers. I'm not worried about getting males since the seeds were feminized, but shouldn't they be very visible by now?

*EDIT*: Actually I spotted some hair on the Big Bang.


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Re: First-time CFL closet grow: Big Bang and SSH [Re: mhbound]
    #166832 - 12/21/08 11:10 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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mhbound said:
I don't know if you have starter flowering, but once you switch to 12-12 it will take another couple of weeks before you start seeing buds take form.



I started flowering on the 12.12.08 :laugh:

Gentlemen, I present to you:

HAIRS!


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Re: First-time CFL closet grow: Big Bang and SSH [Re: mhbound]
    #167976 - 12/23/08 07:39 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

23.12.08
mhbound: I think this picture illustrates the problem people have with CFLs:

But I didn't really have a choice when I bought my bulbs. If you're getting multiple bulbs, make sure to have a mixed spectrum so there's some daylight as well as warmer sunlight rays.
My closet is getting really crammed:

I just hope they'll stop stretching soon.

The leaves on the SSH look kind of funny to me. This picture is taken right after I watered them this morning. Does it look like over- or underwatering to you?


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Re: First-time CFL closet grow: Big Bang and SSH [Re: Dr. Penguin]
    #170548 - 12/26/08 03:09 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

26.12.08 Day 36 (Day 15 of flowering)
Thanks for the positive comments! Since I'm not doing much these days besides eating cake with my family I've been a little trigger happy with the camera. I hope you don't mind the frequent updates.

A couple of days ago a thread by t0ad prompted me to check the pH level in my soil. It was around 7, 7.1 possibly in one of the pots so I decided to add a little bit of bloodorange juice to the water (is this a bad idea? doesn't seem to have hurt my plants). I got it down to around 6.5-6.8. Today I decided to flush for the first time because I didn't like the colour of the water that sipped out of the pot when I watered. I believe both of these actions have made the plants healthier, especially the SSH. The leaves are straighter and the yellow/discolouring of the leaves where the leaf meets the stem has gone.

Before:

After:

Or maybe I'm just imagining things? :> This is the SSH plant and she has almost no hairs yet despite two weeks of 12/12, and those few I can find are very small compared to the star of the week, the Big Bang:

Group Shot:


Weed prices here are ridiculous and so I'm never buying weed until it's legalized. The wait is hard :dizope: smoke smoke smoke!


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Re: First-time CFL closet grow: Big Bang and SSH [Re: snufkin]
    #174364 - 01/02/09 11:42 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

02.01.08 3 weeks of flowering.


Some of the first leafs on the Big Bang that are not getting much light have started turning yellow and are falling off.

But the buds are looking good :flyhigh: That plant is so big now that viewed top-down it's shaped like a square.

The SSH still isn't forming buds:

Just a few hairs here and there. Is this abnormal considering it's been three weeks of 12/12 or should I just stop worrying?


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Re: First-time CFL closet grow: Big Bang and SSH [Re: mhbound]
    #175515 - 01/05/09 01:11 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

mhbound said:
Is it female??



I think so.


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Re: First-time CFL closet grow: Big Bang and SSH [Re: ezKiel]
    #176622 - 01/07/09 12:23 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

7.1.09 7 weeks since germination
The SSH has decided to stretch some more despite 3 and a half weeks of 12/12 light regime and if she won't get her shit together the shit will hit the fan soon. Literally.

Is there anything I can do to get her to stretch less and start flowering faster? I'd hate to have to cut her highest branches now.
And the other plant:


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Re: First-time CFL closet grow: Big Bang and SSH [Re: t0ad]
    #180709 - 01/13/09 09:55 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

13.01.09
Thanks for your advice t0ad! I didn't have to bend a lot to keep the plant to an acceptable height. Sorry to hear about the trouble you have been having with your grow.
Here are some pics of the bend:

And here's the status on the buds on the SSH:

Looks like they have a long way to go to me. I'm starting to think the waiting is the hardest part about growing your first plants.
Big Bang:
I don't know what to say. The buds are getting bigger but slowly. This strain seems to be able to take any kind of mistake a newb can throw at it. I'm wondering if it's normal for the bid leafs to be so much darker than the rest of the plant?

This damage you see in the last picture is because there's not enough room for all the leaves and some are bent up against the walls.


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Re: First-time CFL closet grow: Big Bang and SSH [Re: mhbound]
    #181258 - 01/14/09 12:35 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

mhbound said:
Are you growing in a house?? Or apartment?

They look great by the way.



Apartment, with oblivious flatmates.
Why do you ask?


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Re: First-time CFL closet grow: Big Bang and SSH [Re: mhbound]
    #182938 - 01/16/09 12:21 PM (16 years, 1 month ago)

So... how big of a no-no is it to harvest one of the smaller branches right now (~4 weeks left)?


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Re: First-time CFL closet grow: Big Bang and SSH [Re: Dr. Penguin]
    #183542 - 01/17/09 09:34 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

The branch was spared this time around.


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Re: First-time CFL closet grow: Big Bang and SSH [Re: snufkin]
    #185308 - 01/20/09 09:45 AM (16 years, 1 month ago)

20.01.09 5 and a half weeks in to flowering
First off, the Big Bang is starting to smell funny:

I'm giving her fertilizers with every other watering. Does she look healthy to you? There are some dead spots on some of the leaves but I blame it on small space.
The SSH:

The buds are getting more visible, and there are a lot of them! Wouldn't you expect them to be bigger after 5 and a half week of flowering? I know sativas take longer to flower and all, but is this normal?

Two shady plants, one small and fat, the other tall and thin.


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Re: First-time CFL closet grow: Big Bang and SSH [Re: Lucas420]
    #188945 - 01/24/09 06:58 AM (16 years, 30 days ago)

Quote:

Lucas420 said:
Very nice, I am going to be starting a closet grow soon, it will be my first real attempt at growing, what kind of water regime are you using on your plants?



I just check daily by digging my finger in to the soil.


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Re: First-time CFL closet grow: Big Bang and SSH [Re: Psuper]
    #189537 - 01/26/09 08:18 AM (16 years, 28 days ago)

Quote:

Psuper said:
I see the CFLs on the side, but the larger metal fixture holds, what? the larger style CFLs? Sorry, I don't know my lighting that well. Love the grow log!



It's a 125W "Warm 2700K" CFL in a reflector. The other smaller bulbs are very white 6500K bulbs so the plants are getting a very mixed spectrum of light.

26.01.09
Here are a couple of pictures of the tops as of yesterday

The Big Bang will receive its last dose of nutrients with the next watering, then I'll flush and harvest in the second week of february.


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Re: First-time CFL closet grow: Big Bang and SSH [Re: Annom]
    #190949 - 01/31/09 05:43 AM (16 years, 23 days ago)

mhbound: :tongue:

30.01.09 7 weeks of flowering
On the big bang the stems for some of the fan leaves have started to turn red and the water consumption is way down. If I were to judge ripeness from the pistils I'd cut it down now but green house says 8 to 9 weeks.



This has been happening a lot to the super silver haze. The lowest leafs are receiving no light and just curl up and fall off.
The branches higher up are looking good however:

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Re: First-time CFL closet grow: Big Bang and SSH [Re: mrspirit]
    #191344 - 02/01/09 02:07 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

Breaking news: My fan just fell down on the Big Bang, knocking two branches off (edit: the branches were from the 1st and 3rd internode, the smallest buds really). Thank god it missed the main cola! What impact does this have on the final harvest (other than the two missing branches i'm drying right now)? Will maturity be stunted so I will have to harvest later, or will the potency be lowered?

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Re: First-time CFL closet grow: Big Bang and SSH [Re: mhbound]
    #192236 - 02/04/09 02:33 PM (16 years, 19 days ago)

4.01.09
This grow is heading towards great success imo. The wait has been long but harvest is just around the corner now, I think I'll give the Big Bang a week more, making flowering 8 and a half weeks.

The branches that broke off when the fan fell down yielded about 3 grams (huge error margin). Counting the remaining branches this plant will easily yield over an ounce. Some of the premature harvest I dried quickly and smoked (the high is really relaxing and stony), the other buds I'm drying slowly to see if I can do it properly. The "green" smell is still present after 4 days of drying (is this normal)? I was hoping the dried bud would smell like the bud/resin on the plant. It's kind of stinky, but in a good way. I have nothing to compare it to.


The Super Silver Haze is really catching up and today as I was tending the plants my hand rubbed up against the buds and it smells amazing! Really, beats all perfumes. And there is a plus to having a giant plant that would be taller than me if it wasn't tied down => more buds!


I am so happy  :jointsmile:


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Re: First-time CFL closet grow: Big Bang and SSH [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #192873 - 02/06/09 06:57 AM (16 years, 17 days ago)


Any ideas what this is? It has been showing up on some of the bud leaves. Most leaves are OK, but it seems to be spreading :frown:


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Re: First-time CFL closet grow: Big Bang and SSH [Re: mhbound]
    #193093 - 02/07/09 04:54 AM (16 years, 16 days ago)

Appreciate the help guys!
I've been watering with a 17-19-29 fertilizer (0.05% manganese, 0.05% zinc, 0.50% magnesium, 0.05% copper, 0.10% iron). I measured the pH to be exactly 7.0. It could be that I have been rather aggressive with the fertilizer, I will flush the pot and see what happens.

This is appearing mostly on bud leaves, sometimes as little spots all over the leaf but mostly edges, sometimes in one large cluster. The color of the spot is gray/orange/brown. The spot is very brittle, if I try to bend it it breaks easily.


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