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hi P730 Ingemar is not the original breeder of the widow the breeder of the white widow is infact shantibaba .

Ingemar has a weed site ( 'White Widow Web' ) .


Heres some replies from shanti explaning things.



I created Greenhouse Seed company in 1995 and won the HTCC with the strain I called White Widow.Now I call it Black Widow since setting up the MR NICE SEEDBANK. I know Ingemar and have worked with him in the passed.He is not a seed breeder, but he he a very good groweron soil.As far as I know he never supplied seed to anyone I know so I cannot tell you anything about the seed he sells ,but he never won the fame with his seed.He just uses the name like most people do...nothing to stop them doing so.I hope this explains a little more about the story...all the best Shantibaba



Thanks for the question and for following my breeds over the years.Now to answer your queeries, the Mr Nice Black Widow(the new name for white widow)has origins from a Brazilian sativa and aSouthern Indian sativa/indica making the female progeny not an economic success. However as you have discovered, the widow male has the majority of dominancy in this hybrid and if selected with interest, can most definitely help you go on with your own strains.You seem to be quite up with the way growing works so all I can suggest is low food mix when flowering the widows...it responses better to lower EC levels. I usually flower it with ph 5.8 and EC of 1.4-1.8...and always ph adjusted water only for the last 2-3 weeks of flowering. I hope this helps sort out any problems and clears up the observations you made. All the best Shantibaba





Thanks for the letter.Let me clear the air.I do not give a rats arse whether you buy my seeds or someone elses.I breed seed for the punters out their and I know what I have done and what I have to offer. I also do not down other people or seed companies....everyone has an aim and equal purpose. When I talked about Ingemar and the WW, I am tired of the same misinformation put out to confuse the punter.I tell the truth about seed and the stories around them. If you do not believe that you should just ask the other party concerned what you asked me and work it out yourself...like most things in the life.
I was a grower first and due to the bullshit offered to me and fellow growers I became what I am now purely out of pursuit of the real thing...not what Joe Blow says it is for a quick sale. I do not need your money to do my thing. I just decided it is better to get my work out there than risk loosing it all if something happened to me. I think you call that sharing. Howard Marks(MR NICE) and I have been through the mill and got out. We want people to share alot of unnecessary mistakes we already made, and by being responsible try to help others from the same. But most people would never know that unless they convince themselves of the facts. That is why we came on the seed market with our favourite 12 strains. The original Seedbank that became sensi seed had another man who was of equal influence in genetics. He contributes also to MR NICE SEEDBANK. Now knowing all this, you are left to make from it what you will...but that sir are the facts.
Just to answer the question about why WW nugs were supplied by different people to the coffeeshops. If you really know how small the producion is and how big the demand is then you would quickly realize you need 10 growers to supply WW, to keep it on the menu. So sure Ingemar supplied and still supplies coffeeshops, as do many others. They all use the same clones but they all differ in final products, that my friend is a fact of life. We are all individuals, and therefore noone does the same as the others.This by the way goes for all other strains and if you would like to ask someone if that is true then ask a coffeeshop owner if they ever get exactly the same product time and time again from the same person...
I hope you can find some sense in all this rambling but you asked. All the best Shantibaba

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