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 Butters
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 Re: Next Step?  [Re: coda]
#98241 - 07/30/08 06:21 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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should i still give it a chance or start over with a better light?
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 Sirius
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Re: Next Step? [Re: Butters]
#98941 - 07/31/08 05:08 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well, it isn't dead yet, so, while it might be easier to start over with better conditions, why not try to bring that plant around and learn from the experience first?
You need a plan of action, fast. If you want your plant to make it, or you want to avoid this problem again, you're going to have to pay attention and do what you need to do for it to make it. 
First, you need a better light. Why don't you go back to this post here and read it a couple times? CFL bulbs, available practically everywhere (Wal*Mart, for example), are the perfect solution for what you have going on right now. They'll produce enough of the right spectrum of light, if you get the right one, they plug into a regular light socket (you should be able to screw it in your reflector you have right now, by the looks of it), and they don't produce much heat.
Not all light is the same. Different bulbs have different colors of light, and the plants need only certain colors of light. On top of that, different kinds of light have different intensities, basically the strength of the light. This is measured in lumens.
Now, go out and find a CFL that is in the "daylight" spectrum (the package might say it has a color temperature of around 6500k, but it might not). All bulbs have to list the amount of lumens on the package in the States, so find one that has at least 2000 lumens. These bulbs should be around 20 watts. Pay close attention to the package though, because CFL's are marketed as replacement bulbs for incandescent bulbs, and a lot of times it will also list the wattage of the incandescent bulb that it replaces (for example, an 18w CFL replaces a 75 watt incandescent bulb). If you can, get the highest watt bulb you can find with the most lumens, because the more light that is available for your plant to use, the more resources it will have to grow. 
Your other main opportunity for helping your plant is the container you have it in and the soil you are putting in it. The container is definitely too small for it. You need to find something, I'd suggest at least three times the size (why not go out and find a square-shaped plant pot that can hold three gallons of soil?). When you make the transplant, place the plant deeper into the container so that almost all of her stem is buried in the soil. Your plant stretched pretty far in search of the kind of light that it needs to grow, and placing most of that stem underneath the soil will help keep it shorter and allow the stem that remains above the surface to become more sturdy.
What kind of soil are you using? If you are using cheap soil from a place like Wal*Mart or Target, its very possible that it has too many nutrients or other problems that will harm your plant. Considering that you're in California, there should be readily available grow stores in which you can get better soil to grow in, if you already don't have some of the good stuff. Tell us what kind you are using now and we'll know if it will work for you well or not.
If you take care of giving it enough of the right kind of light, and giving the roots plenty of room to grow, in the right kind of soil, you'll be a lot further along in being able to grow some healthy plants. Then you'll be free to concentrate on things like making sure you're watering right and taking care of other things in the plant's environment. One thing you'll need to take care of soon is getting a good pH meter and learning how to use it, because it is absolutely necessary to make sure the pH level is where it needs to be, or else your plant will be incapable of taking in different nutrients from the soil, which could potentially mean death for your plants.
At the very least, you need to take care of the light and the pot/soil problem ASAP. If you do, the color should start coming back into your leaves, and the plant should start growing faster.
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just me
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Re: Next Step? [Re: Sirius]
#99038 - 07/31/08 12:46 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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^ read that
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Butters
what what in the butt
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Loc: California
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Re: Next Step? [Re: just me]
#99106 - 07/31/08 02:06 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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miracle grow potting mix for vegetables, flowers, and herbs.
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coda
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Re: Next Step? [Re: Butters]
#99347 - 07/31/08 06:52 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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yah, uh, that soil is shit for growing herb in. I don't know why people use it, it sucks. You're much better off making your own soil or throwing down the 20 bucks for some fox farm.
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captain.koons
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Re: Next Step? [Re: coda]
#99520 - 07/31/08 08:21 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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miracle grow anything is shitty as fuck
if you use it make sure you bake it first because there will be bug eggs in it.
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Sirius
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Re: Next Step? [Re: Butters]
#99868 - 08/01/08 05:46 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Quote:
Butters said:
miracle grow potting mix for vegetables, flowers, and herbs.
So yeah, new light, new pot, new soil. Do you know everything that you need as far as that goes?
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just me
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Re: Next Step? [Re: Sirius]
#99924 - 08/01/08 11:27 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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new setup
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Butters
what what in the butt
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Re: Next Step? [Re: just me]
#100187 - 08/01/08 08:02 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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yeah the 150 dollar sun machine i'm going to order, and new soil. Miracle grow is shitty, so is target brand lights. The next plant should do much better.
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Sirius
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Re: Next Step? [Re: Butters]
#100220 - 08/01/08 09:03 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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So you're giving up on the one you have now, even though with a small amount of inexpensive changes, you could turn it around?
Buying an expensive lighting system isn't going to solve all your problems, although having a good source of light is definitely going to pay off. It doesn't matter how good "target brand lights" are, a regular CFL with the right amount of lumens and the right color will more than work for your situation. It sucks that your letting your plant die because you started growing it not knowing what you were doing and now that you've been told how to quickly, easily, and cheaply turn it around, you're not going to try and save it. 
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Butters
what what in the butt
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Re: Next Step? [Re: Sirius]
#100289 - 08/01/08 10:37 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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fuck it, i'll get the cfl then, i honestly don't want to give up on her either.
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Butters
what what in the butt
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Re: Next Step? [Re: Butters]
#103447 - 08/05/08 03:27 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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it's been sprouting more leaves and the new leaves are all dark green. 
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Butters
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 Re: Next Step? [Re: Butters]
#113761 - 08/24/08 03:58 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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It died.
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just me
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Re: Next Step? [Re: Butters]
#113765 - 08/24/08 04:35 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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WTF!>!>!???!?!???
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coda
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Re: Next Step? [Re: just me]
#114297 - 08/25/08 05:00 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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can't say im not surprised.
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Hefe
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Re: Next Step? [Re: coda]
#116710 - 09/01/08 09:56 AM (16 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's coming back to life! wait.. oh, nope, it died.
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