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Re: Next Step? [Re: Butters]
    #88269 - 07/19/08 04:44 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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you guys are so helpful okay, she's been in almost 2 weeks, she's in a solo cup since i can't see the roots how should i know when it's done rooting?




What size container are you planning on transplanting it into, and how long are you planning to keep it in the vegetative state before you switch the light cycle over for flowering? Do you know what strain you are running, or at least whether it is indica dominant or sativa dominant?


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Re: Next Step? [Re: Butters]
    #88450 - 07/19/08 06:34 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

If you're only running a clone at a time, the cheapest, best direction to go with your lighting is to get some CFL bulbs. They fit in regular light-bulb outlets, they don't produce a lot of heat, and they should work decently well for you if you have the right amount of lumens being distributed across the plant well. You'll want to find ones that are at least 20 watts (their actual wattage, not the "conversion wattage" of the regular, incandescent light bulb that people replace with the CFL's), but the main thing is the amount of lumens each bulb produces, which will be listed (get a bulb with at least 2000 lumens). You will probably want a couple. For flowering, you'll want the cool-white bulbs, with the color temperature of around 2500k, and if you decide to use them for vegetative state, you'll want the daylight bulbs, with a color temperature of around 6500k.

I'm out of time, so I'll post more later. :wink:


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Re: Next Step? [Re: just me]
    #90397 - 07/22/08 03:09 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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just me said:
cfls can be used for veg and flower.

theres different lumens.




I think you mean that there are different color temperatures, not that there are different lumens. :wink:


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Re: Next Step? [Re: Butters]
    #98941 - 07/31/08 05:08 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Well, it isn't dead yet, so, while it might be easier to start over with better conditions, why not try to bring that plant around and learn from the experience first?

You need a plan of action, fast. If you want your plant to make it, or you want to avoid this problem again, you're going to have to pay attention and do what you need to do for it to make it. :grin:

First, you need a better light. Why don't you go back to this post here and read it a couple times? CFL bulbs, available practically everywhere (Wal*Mart, for example), are the perfect solution for what you have going on right now. They'll produce enough of the right spectrum of light, if you get the right one, they plug into a regular light socket (you should be able to screw it in your reflector you have right now, by the looks of it), and they don't produce much heat.

Not all light is the same. Different bulbs have different colors of light, and the plants need only certain colors of light. On top of that, different kinds of light have different intensities, basically the strength of the light. This is measured in lumens.

Now, go out and find a CFL that is in the "daylight" spectrum (the package might say it has a color temperature of around 6500k, but it might not). All bulbs have to list the amount of lumens on the package in the States, so find one that has at least 2000 lumens. These bulbs should be around 20 watts. Pay close attention to the package though, because CFL's are marketed as replacement bulbs for incandescent bulbs, and a lot of times it will also list the wattage of the incandescent bulb that it replaces (for example, an 18w CFL replaces a 75 watt incandescent bulb). If you can, get the highest watt bulb you can find with the most lumens, because the more light that is available for your plant to use, the more resources it will have to grow. :wink:

Your other main opportunity for helping your plant is the container you have it in and the soil you are putting in it. The container is definitely too small for it. You need to find something, I'd suggest at least three times the size (why not go out and find a square-shaped plant pot that can hold three gallons of soil?). When you make the transplant, place the plant deeper into the container so that almost all of her stem is buried in the soil. Your plant stretched pretty far in search of the kind of light that it needs to grow, and placing most of that stem underneath the soil will help keep it shorter and allow the stem that remains above the surface to become more sturdy.

What kind of soil are you using? If you are using cheap soil from a place like Wal*Mart or Target, its very possible that it has too many nutrients or other problems that will harm your plant. Considering that you're in California, there should be readily available grow stores in which you can get better soil to grow in, if you already don't have some of the good stuff. Tell us what kind you are using now and we'll know if it will work for you well or not.

If you take care of giving it enough of the right kind of light, and giving the roots plenty of room to grow, in the right kind of soil, you'll be a lot further along in being able to grow some healthy plants. Then you'll be free to concentrate on things like making sure you're watering right and taking care of other things in the plant's environment. One thing you'll need to take care of soon is getting a good pH meter and learning how to use it, because it is absolutely necessary to make sure the pH level is where it needs to be, or else your plant will be incapable of taking in different nutrients from the soil, which could potentially mean death for your plants.

At the very least, you need to take care of the light and the pot/soil problem ASAP. If you do, the color should start coming back into your leaves, and the plant should start growing faster.


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Re: Next Step? [Re: Butters]
    #99868 - 08/01/08 05:46 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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Butters said:
miracle grow potting mix for vegetables, flowers, and herbs.




So yeah, new light, new pot, new soil. Do you know everything that you need as far as that goes?


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Re: Next Step? [Re: Butters]
    #100220 - 08/01/08 09:03 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

So you're giving up on the one you have now, even though with a small amount of inexpensive changes, you could turn it around?

Buying an expensive lighting system isn't going to solve all your problems, although having a good source of light is definitely going to pay off. It doesn't matter how good "target brand lights" are, a regular CFL with the right amount of lumens and the right color will more than work for your situation. It sucks that your letting your plant die because you started growing it not knowing what you were doing and now that you've been told how to quickly, easily, and cheaply turn it around, you're not going to try and save it. :rolleyes:


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