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 Re: kidaihaun - Bottom line  [Re: andyistic]
#105915 - 08/07/08 10:37 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I can't believe he isn't perma banned.
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 andyistic
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Re: kidaihaun - Bottom line [Re: 0xYg3n]
#105916 - 08/07/08 10:38 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I doubt he will be - Geo was on earlier but didn't bother with it.
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Sirius
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Re: kidaihaun - Bottom line [Re: Sativus]
#105951 - 08/08/08 12:07 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Kidaihaun for President! 
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Doitagain
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Re: kidaihaun - Bottom line [Re: Sativus]
#105957 - 08/08/08 12:15 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sativus said:
There's a tribe where the pre-adolescent boys perform fellatio on the adult males. They believe that you need to consume enough semen to become a man. Once the child hits puberty, they know he's had enough semen.
While we would generally consider this sexual abuse, they see it in a very different cultural light.
Not justifying pedophilia or anything, just thought that was germane to zippo's point.
just because its part of their culture doesn't make it acceptable.
i am sure that form the pre-adolescent boys point of view its an absolutely disgusting and nightmarish experience. Its still depraved and abusive whether or not it's part of their belief system.
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fgts just don't understand
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Doitagain
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Re: kidaihaun - Bottom line [Re: Doitagain]
#105958 - 08/08/08 12:16 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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i say ban this faggot.
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fgts just don't understand
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Sirius
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Re: kidaihaun - Bottom line [Re: Doitagain]
#105961 - 08/08/08 12:17 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Doitagain said:
i am sure that form the pre-adolescent boys point of view its an absolutely disgusting and nightmarish experience.
What are you basing that on, but your own preconceptions, formed from your own cultural conditioning?
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Re: kidaihaun - Bottom line [Re: Sirius]
#105962 - 08/08/08 12:19 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sativus's first statement about the cum guzzling tribal rites was LOL
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Re: kidaihaun - Bottom line [Re: Sirius]
#105964 - 08/08/08 12:21 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sirius said:
Quote:
Doitagain said:
i am sure that form the pre-adolescent boys point of view its an absolutely disgusting and nightmarish experience.
What are you basing that on, but your own preconceptions, formed from your own cultural conditioning?
do you really think that it's just cultural conditioning?
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fgts just don't understand
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Sirius
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Re: kidaihaun - Bottom line [Re: Doitagain]
#105972 - 08/08/08 12:27 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Why wouldn't it be? Is sucking cocks inherently unpleasant?
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Re: kidaihaun - Bottom line [Re: Sirius]
#105975 - 08/08/08 12:31 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sirius said:
Why wouldn't it be? Is sucking cocks inherently unpleasant?
for heterosexual males i would think so
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fgts just don't understand
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Sirius
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Re: kidaihaun - Bottom line [Re: Doitagain]
#105978 - 08/08/08 12:33 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nah, its just a neutral action, just like any action (with the possible exception of an experience that causes physical pain), and how one associates meaning with that experience is pretty much determined how their perspective is on everything, which is based entirely on the conditioning one has received. 
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Re: kidaihaun - Bottom line [Re: Doitagain]
#105979 - 08/08/08 12:33 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah, I gotta gree with Sirius. No matter how revoltingly unpleasant the idea of sucking a cock is based on our cultural conditioning, I can't imagine that's universal. What is and isn't taboo, acceptable, etc. varies a lot in different societies.
I think it's pretty fucking disgusting and inhuman that we seek out indigenous people whose land we can use for resources, and whose people we can use as capital. To me, that seems utterly wrong and morally reprehensible. America feels differently.
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Re: kidaihaun - Bottom line [Re: Sativus]
#105982 - 08/08/08 12:35 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sativus said:
Yeah, I gotta gree with Sirius. No matter how revoltingly unpleasant the idea of sucking a cock is based on our cultural conditioning, I can't imagine that's universal. What is and isn't taboo, acceptable, etc. varies a lot in different societies.
I think it's pretty fucking disgusting and inhuman that we seek out indigenous people whose land we can use for resources, and whose people we can use as capital. To me, that seems utterly wrong and morally reprehensible. America feels differently.
maybe i'm wrong. it seems inherently revolting but i can never truly seperate myself from my cultural conditioning.
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fgts just don't understand
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Re: kidaihaun - Bottom line [Re: Doitagain]
#106003 - 08/08/08 01:27 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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there are also cultures that practice female castration. is it just my cultural conditioning to be against that? i think not. when someone is too young, too handicapped, too submissive, or too afraid, or otherwise unable to say yes or no, that is when it is wrong.
taking advantage of the weak is not a matter of cultural conditioning, its a matter of flat out right or wrong on the most basic human level.
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Re: kidaihaun - Bottom line [Re: yellownotepad]
#106004 - 08/08/08 01:29 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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yellownotepad said:
there are also cultures that practice female castration. is it just my cultural conditioning to be against that? i think not.
Of course it is cultural conditioning. That doesn't mean it (cultural conditioning) is necessarily a bad thing. It just is what it is.
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Re: kidaihaun - Bottom line [Re: Sirius]
#106009 - 08/08/08 01:38 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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edit: i meant to say circumcision, not castration.
im hoping your statement is made without knowing about the topic.
part of the process is cutting off the clitoris without anesthetic.
with the arguments being made in this thread you could say rape is ok in cultures that allow it. 'someone else is ok with it' is not a criteria for whether or not something should be tolerated. i'm all for liberal thinking but how can you justify taking advantage of a nonconsenting party?
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Re: kidaihaun - Bottom line [Re: yellownotepad]
#106010 - 08/08/08 01:40 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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ZOMG! I had no idea.
I hear there's also cultures that perform male circumcision 
Fuckin' jews, hitler shoulda finished what he started, eh?
Edit: And for the record, plenty of indigenous tribes perform their male circumcisions also without anaesthetic. What the fuck does that have to do with anything? They supposed to run down to the corner store and pick up some nitrous or ketmaine?
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Re: kidaihaun - Bottom line [Re: Sativus]
#106012 - 08/08/08 01:44 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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well bush's regime is reflecting hitler's past. so i guess he's finishing the job for him
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Sativus
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Not well enough. There's still too many child-circumsizing Jews still running around for yellownotepad's taste.
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Re: kidaihaun - Bottom line [Re: Sativus]
#106017 - 08/08/08 01:51 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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And to be clear, I'm not advocating we institute a preteen cocksucking system here in the US. All I'm trying to do is point out that cultrally-transcendent morality is a very very sticky issue, and the sort of mindless reductionism that yellownotepad applies does the issue a grave discredit. It's just not that simple.
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