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 Siekostoner
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 Yellowing leaves? Close to harvest? 
#101804 - 08/03/08 02:47 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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The big fan leaves on my plant are turning very yellow, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it does that by itself in the final stages of flowering....? How much longer do you think I should wait before I harvest? Most of the hairs are still white, and all the trichomes look milky......
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Re: Yellowing leaves? Close to harvest? [Re: Siekostoner]
#101805 - 08/03/08 03:02 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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How long have they been underneath 12/12? Is there more growth occurring in the buds themselves?
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Re: Yellowing leaves? Close to harvest? [Re: Sirius]
#101953 - 08/03/08 10:07 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sirius said:
How long have they been underneath 12/12? Is there more growth occurring in the buds themselves?
None that I can see... it pretty much stopped growing a little less than a week ago.
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Re: Yellowing leaves? Close to harvest? [Re: Siekostoner]
#101962 - 08/03/08 10:16 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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How long since you flipped the lights, though?
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Re: Yellowing leaves? Close to harvest? [Re: Sirius]
#101983 - 08/03/08 10:50 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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your plants aren't even close to done. what kind of lights you using?
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you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day. 
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Siekostoner
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Re: Yellowing leaves? Close to harvest? [Re: Sirius]
#102187 - 08/04/08 02:13 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sirius said:
How long since you flipped the lights, though?
7-8 weeks maybe?
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Re: Yellowing leaves? Close to harvest? [Re: Siekostoner]
#102192 - 08/04/08 02:21 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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well, that's floros for ya. how many watts total you go on em?
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kickin-two-hundo said:
you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.
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Re: Yellowing leaves? Close to harvest? [Re: THEBats]
#102194 - 08/04/08 02:27 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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THEBats said:
well, that's floros for ya. how many watts total you go on em?
Started out with 150, then added another so now it's 300.
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Re: Yellowing leaves? Close to harvest? [Re: Siekostoner]
#102195 - 08/04/08 02:37 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Not bad, still though plants won't pack on the weight with floros. works great for veg though.
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kickin-two-hundo said:
you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.
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Re: Yellowing leaves? Close to harvest? [Re: THEBats]
#102251 - 08/04/08 08:29 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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THEBats said:
Not bad, still though plants won't pack on the weight with floros. works great for veg though.
Meh, I don't really care how much it all weighs, it's not like I'm growing to sell or anything...... I'm just learning so soon I can have my own weed supply. I just wanna know, how much time left do you guys think I have till they're ready for harvest.
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Re: Yellowing leaves? Close to harvest? [Re: Siekostoner]
#102255 - 08/04/08 09:10 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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from the looks of those plants you've still got a ways to go
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Re: Yellowing leaves? Close to harvest? [Re: Yrat]
#102274 - 08/04/08 11:07 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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from the looks of those plants you've still got a ways to go
Snap SON!
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Re: Yellowing leaves? Close to harvest? [Re: Yrat]
#102282 - 08/04/08 11:15 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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from the looks of those plants you've still got a ways to go
Hmmmm...... why do you say that? I mean I believe you, but I just wanna know what about it points towards it being a long way from being done? I thought the yellowing leaves were a sign of it being in the last stage of flowering.
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Re: Yellowing leaves? Close to harvest? [Re: Siekostoner]
#102284 - 08/04/08 11:23 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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It just looks like the plant lacked a lot of light, nutrients, correct pH, the better you get at controlling the plants environment, the better it will grow.
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Re: Yellowing leaves? Close to harvest? [Re: Siekostoner]
#102285 - 08/04/08 11:23 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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he says that because there no bud lol. wait to u start seeing amber trichnones then you'll know. prolly not getting more than a quarter from that tho.
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kickin-two-hundo said:
you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.
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Re: Yellowing leaves? Close to harvest? [Re: THEBats]
#102290 - 08/04/08 11:38 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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THEBats said:
he says that because there no bud lol. wait to u start seeing amber trichnones then you'll know. prolly not getting more than a quarter from that tho.
Wasn't really expecting more than a quarter anyway....... it's my first grow, so I'm still learning. Next time I'll start out with 300 watts rather than adding the second 150 in the last couple weeks...... I just wish it would finish up already so I can get my grow room organized and try again.
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Re: Yellowing leaves? Close to harvest? [Re: Siekostoner]
#102291 - 08/04/08 11:40 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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yea. seriously though if u have the money invest in atleast some form of HPS. Even a 150 watt can make all the difference and will make the nugs you do get dense.
Also look into either LST or SCROG to maximize the potential of the lights.
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kickin-two-hundo said:
you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.
Edited by THEBats (08/04/08 11:41 AM)
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Re: Yellowing leaves? Close to harvest? [Re: THEBats]
#102295 - 08/04/08 11:44 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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How close to the lights were they during the grow?
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Re: Yellowing leaves? Close to harvest? [Re: DungenessDank]
#102304 - 08/04/08 12:01 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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they're floros and even then the yellowing is at the bottom which means it isn't due to heat from the lights.
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kickin-two-hundo said:
you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.
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Re: Yellowing leaves? Close to harvest? [Re: Siekostoner]
#102329 - 08/04/08 12:23 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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I thought yellow leaves were a sign of nutrient deficiency?
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Re: Yellowing leaves? Close to harvest? [Re: THEBats]
#102357 - 08/04/08 12:37 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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I was just curious because he probably had them too far away from the plants because he was scared of burning them.
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Re: Yellowing leaves? Close to harvest? [Re: Siekostoner]
#102363 - 08/04/08 12:41 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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What is the color temperature of your CFL's and the total lumens? If the color temperature isn't in the red, then it will take the plants longer than they would otherwise to finish budding because they aren't receiving enough of the right spectrum of light to make it happen. Seven to eight weeks is about the time indicas would be finishing up, but it definitely looks like you are running a plant that is more sativa dominant, so I think it just naturally needs a couple more weeks.
The yellowing leaves aren't necessarily a sign that the plant is almost done. It is a sign, since the plants will start taking nitrogen out of the leaves as it begins finishing up bud production, but if you cut off nutrients too early, the unavailability of nutrients isn't doing you any good.
I'd recommend giving a good full dosage of nutrients, and then after that, cutting them out of your watering for two weeks. I would think that will put you right about harvest time, and giving them a good feed now should help make sure they have enough nutrients to use in the meantime. 
The fact that you are using fluorescents shouldn't be limiting your bud production, as long as you have the right color spectrum and enough lumens. Obviously, since the intensity of the light isn't the same as an HID, it will only be the tops of the plants that really develop, but, otherwise, the tops should develop fine.
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Re: Yellowing leaves? Close to harvest? [Re: Siekostoner]
#102617 - 08/04/08 05:45 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yrat said:
from the looks of those plants you've still got a ways to go
Hmmmm...... why do you say that? I mean I believe you, but I just wanna know what about it points towards it being a long way from being done? I thought the yellowing leaves were a sign of it being in the last stage of flowering.
yellowing leaves CAN be a sign of later stages of flowering, but as others explained, it can also just be a deficiency starting to show itself in the middle of flowering.
the reason i believe you have at least a few more weeks to go is that those buds look to still be very young. it seems that they still have much further to go in terms of filling out. don't get me wrong, they look great, but still immature in terms of potential.
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Re: Yellowing leaves? Close to harvest? [Re: Yrat]
#102790 - 08/04/08 08:31 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks guys......... btw, I have a question about drying, I want to ask before I forget....
I know you're supposed to dry in a dark room, and not expose the buds to light... does this mean sunlight, or any light? I mean, could I just dry them in my grow room, where the is no sunlight, only CFL light? Or does it need to be in a dark closet or something?
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Re: Yellowing leaves? Close to harvest? [Re: Siekostoner]
#102981 - 08/04/08 10:47 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Siekostoner said:
I know you're supposed to dry in a dark room, and not expose the buds to light... does this mean sunlight, or any light? I mean, could I just dry them in my grow room, where the is no sunlight, only CFL light? Or does it need to be in a dark closet or something?
It's the heat the light makes that destroys the thc I think. In any case I think you are fine drying your buds in your grow room as long as its not hot in there. HID lights or sunlight is surely bad, but floros and incandescent light should be fine. Just keep them far enough away so that the light doesn't heat up the bud at all. It's best to dry bud hanging in a cool area with good ventilation.
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Re: Yellowing leaves? Close to harvest? [Re: Chronicbs]
#103239 - 08/05/08 09:08 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Heat and moisture destroy THC but you also want them in a dark area to get as much as the chlorophyll out of them as possible. You don't want the buds to keep on trying to live and produce chlorophyll cause it'll be that much longer you have to wait to smoke it.
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Re: Yellowing leaves? Close to harvest? [Re: BlargIAmDead]
#103315 - 08/05/08 12:11 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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The temp in my grow room is 78 f and the humidity is 63%... Is that okay? I'm also going to try putting up a cloth to help block some of the light, and well as get a fan to help more around the air when the time comes.
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Re: Yellowing leaves? Close to harvest? [Re: Siekostoner]
#103318 - 08/05/08 12:16 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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that's probably a pretty high humidity. you might have trouble getting the plants to dry. you want the lowest levels possible so that the air will suck the water right out of the hanging plants.
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Re: Yellowing leaves? Close to harvest? [Re: Siekostoner]
#103331 - 08/05/08 12:36 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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and well as get a fan to help more around the air when the time comes.
Don't have a fan blowing on the buds themselves. Doing so will dry the surface of the buds too fast and might mislead you to thinking the rest is adequately dry if you don't know how to properly check for that, leaving an invitation for mold. Drying the buds too quickly itself is not good for smoking anyways. You'll want more of a passive air exchange system going, perhaps a weaker exhaust fan at the top of your drying area, with an opening for air to flow in at the bottom. Definitely no fans blowing on the buds. Your RH is like 50% higher than it should be for drying, I would think.
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Re: Yellowing leaves? Close to harvest? [Re: Sirius]
#103391 - 08/05/08 02:16 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah, the humidity is pretty high, but I really don't know how to lower it......
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Re: Yellowing leaves? Close to harvest? [Re: Siekostoner]
#103512 - 08/05/08 05:37 PM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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by purchasing a dehumidifier, or, by running a window/remote ac unit in the room. Both suck moisture out of the air and cause the RH to drop.
Also, i'd like to point this out, your plant looks like a hybrid. Given the time frame you've mentioned, the lack of pistil color change, and the complete lack of bud swell, leaves me to believe your plant may be a little more on the sativa side of things. If that is the case, which there is a good chance it's not, you may still have up to 4 weeks left of flowering before they are truly ripened. You might consider giving them a small dose of N to help them through the next few weeks.
Also, you said your trich's were milky looking. Is this by a naked eye inspection, or were you using a microscope?
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