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 ezKiel
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well my desire not too fuck up my life overwhelmingly beats my desire to get high. i think ill make it a one time thing for now... than maybe once a year around my birthday. just refuse to buy anymore.
as for dope sickness... does that kick in as soon as your tolerance rises significantly or do you have to be using for like a solid week?
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Doitagain
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NobodyImportant said:
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ezKiel said:
Do people use these over long terms without fucking themselves over?
no.
it depends on what you mean long term, ive been using them for a couple years but i only indulge about twice a month. which i am doing right now, on percocet and tramadol.
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 Re: Opiates  [Re: Doitagain]
#98711 - 07/31/08 12:11 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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tramadol, fun at first, but i now i hate the shit.
gave them all to a friend, in exchange that he'd give me adderall whenever i need it next semester.
so easy to get tramadol online too (legally).
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Doitagain
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Re: Opiates [Re: usg543]
#98715 - 07/31/08 12:13 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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usg543 said:
tramadol, fun at first, but i now i hate the shit.
gave them all to a friend, in exchange that he'd give me adderall whenever i need it next semester.
so easy to get tramadol online too (legally).
it was free.
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fgts just don't understand
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highasfuck
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Re: Opiates [Re: usg543]
#98758 - 07/31/08 12:39 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Why did you stop liking it so much that you gave it up. Whats the high like?
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Re: Opiates [Re: highasfuck]
#98777 - 07/31/08 12:52 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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wtf is tramadol 
wiki it is 
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Re: Opiates [Re: highasfuck]
#98778 - 07/31/08 12:53 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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tramadol sucks, just don't bother.
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Doitagain
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Re: Opiates [Re: usg543]
#98781 - 07/31/08 12:54 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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usg543 said:
tramadol sucks, just don't bother.
its enjoyable enough to take if its free. and highasfuck enjoys ambien so his standards for recreational drugs are very low.
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fgts just don't understand
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Re: Opiates [Re: Doitagain]
#98783 - 07/31/08 12:55 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Fuck you. I dont enjoy it. I havent touched the shit in ages.
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Doitagain
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Re: Opiates [Re: ezKiel]
#98785 - 07/31/08 12:55 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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ezKiel said:
well my desire not too fuck up my life overwhelmingly beats my desire to get high. i think ill make it a one time thing for now... than maybe once a year around my birthday. just refuse to buy anymore.
as for dope sickness... does that kick in as soon as your tolerance rises significantly or do you have to be using for like a solid week?
dude if tramadol is habit forming for you you must have terrible self-control.
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Re: Opiates [Re: Doitagain]
#98931 - 07/31/08 03:46 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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lol agreed... all drugs are a matter of self control.
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Re: Opiates [Re: ezKiel]
#98939 - 07/31/08 04:49 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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You can use daily and have a great time/life. As long as you don't run out  .
I would probably be better off being opiated everyday, I work so much better on opiates and I am far more motivated. But things have prevented me from wanting to do that. Like...felony for possession, high cost of a habit, etc.
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"If we could sniff or swallow something that would, for five or six hours each day, abolish our solitude as individuals, atone us with our fellows in a glowing exaltation of affection and make life in all its aspects seem not only worth living, but divinely beautiful and significant, and if this heavenly, world-transfiguring drug were of such a kind that we could wake up next morning with a clear head and an undamaged constitution - then, it seems to me, all our problems (and not merely the one small problem of discovering a novel pleasure) would be wholly solved and earth would become paradise." - Aldous Huxley
 GIVE ME OPIATES OR GIVE ME DEATH
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Re: Opiates [Re: aDoS]
#98972 - 07/31/08 07:58 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Hmmm... I just spent the past two days on a half gram of diesel for the first time in about half a year.
It's almost impossible to do only occasionally, mostly because of the vicious cycle involving more and more people you know being users the longer you use. Also, with narcotics there is a tendency to feel no withdrawal after the first few times. This leaves a false impression of invincibility, then after about 3-7 days of straight using the first minor withdrawals turn up. This reinforces further use to kill the withdrawal, which drives up tolerance and use, thus driving up withdrawal.
It's a great drug, but a terrible habit. Unfortunately, prohibition drives the use underground so it's hard to avoid the culture around it if one wishes to use occasionally. I personally find it much easier to use sparingly when it's possible to avoid the scene, players, and city dealers.
Opiates won't totally fuck you, but the combination of yourself with the opiates almost certainly will.
Be careful.
~Monk
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ezKiel
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Re: Opiates [Re: Doitagain]
#98982 - 07/31/08 09:31 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Doitagain said:
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ezKiel said:
well my desire not too fuck up my life overwhelmingly beats my desire to get high. i think ill make it a one time thing for now... than maybe once a year around my birthday. just refuse to buy anymore.
as for dope sickness... does that kick in as soon as your tolerance rises significantly or do you have to be using for like a solid week?
dude if tramadol is habit forming for you you must have terrible self-control.
I didn't say anything about tramadol. I'm not addicted to shit... hell I'm quitting smokes right now, haven't even smoked weed in 2 weeks.
All I want is information on what would make a good experience with opiates and the difference between the varieties.
Just wanna test the water without taking a dive.
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Re: Opiates [Re: numonk]
#98983 - 07/31/08 09:36 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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numonk said:
Hmmm... I just spent the past two days on a half gram of diesel for the first time in about half a year.
It's almost impossible to do only occasionally, mostly because of the vicious cycle involving more and more people you know being users the longer you use. Also, with narcotics there is a tendency to feel no withdrawal after the first few times. This leaves a false impression of invincibility, then after about 3-7 days of straight using the first minor withdrawals turn up. This reinforces further use to kill the withdrawal, which drives up tolerance and use, thus driving up withdrawal.
It's a great drug, but a terrible habit. Unfortunately, prohibition drives the use underground so it's hard to avoid the culture around it if one wishes to use occasionally. I personally find it much easier to use sparingly when it's possible to avoid the scene, players, and city dealers.
Opiates won't totally fuck you, but the combination of yourself with the opiates almost certainly will.
Be careful.
~Monk
THIS is the type of response I was looking for. Much thanks.
What would you recommend as a starting opiate and starting dose for it. I'm about 6'3, 180-190lbs, and looking for typical effects nothing too strong... just enough to get into the state without nodding hard.
I made poppy tea a few times about 2 years ago used about 3-4 largish pods (tennis ball). Mild-Medium effects.
..and don't worry I take everything people recommend with a grain of salt and usually look for the most repeated and confirmed information.
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Re: Opiates [Re: ezKiel]
#99017 - 07/31/08 11:20 AM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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What would you recommend as a starting opiate and starting dose for it. I'm about 6'3, 180-190lbs, and looking for typical effects nothing too strong... just enough to get into the state without nodding hard.
15CC of hairon,
plug it
in yer but
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Re: Opiates [Re: wowitch420]
#99027 - 07/31/08 12:01 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'm so afraid of opiates
won't go near them
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Agent00
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Re: Opiates [Re: Ombient]
#99044 - 07/31/08 01:02 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Omni said:
I'm so afraid of opiates
won't go near them
thats funny coming from you omni haven't you done like half of pihkal?
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Re: Opiates [Re: Agent00]
#99056 - 07/31/08 01:29 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Opiates [Re: Ombient]
#99057 - 07/31/08 01:32 PM (16 years, 3 months ago) |
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