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 Re: Indoor 300w led soil coir perlite compost  [Re: NotE]
#864716 - 02/16/24 12:07 PM (1 year, 26 days ago) |
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Water Pur faucet filtered mineral water. Comes out ph 9 and I lower it with either vinegar or an old Dr Pepper. To ph 6-7.
Soil: The coir was thoroughly rinsed then perlite added with some compost that looks like mud. The compost was under a huge tree and had no lid. I think bird poop is the cause of the nitrogen burn on the new plants. So I had to rinse them out very well. Hence the overwatering.
The smaller ones are all same birthday but some were transplanted which stunts the growth. I’m a firm believer in straight to soil planting. I’ve never germinated.
Feed: miracle gro 10-52-10 mixed 30:1 watered everytime. And water using the directions once a month.
My advice would be to use phosphoric acid instead of acetic for pH down. Let freshly mixed soil sit, hydrated, to "cook" for at least 2 weeks before use.
Also, if you're feeding ionic nutrients, you may as well skip the compost and grow in straight coco or coco/perlite. You'd have to water more frequently but you get more control over feedings this way, faster growth, and much less of a chance of overwatering.
I'd get a cheap ec meter, a nice pH pen, and some better nutrients as well should you choose to go the coco route, I use Jacks 321 nutrients and an Apera ph pen.
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Re: Indoor 300w led soil coir perlite compost [Re: NotE]
#864784 - 02/18/24 08:49 AM (1 year, 24 days ago) |
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What do you mean I should use compost or fertilizer? And perlite is for evaporation right?
The best looking one is just regular potting soil I just put a layer on top. I want a light meter to see if it is even close to hid. It’s just hid is so hot. I’ve no doubt it would be 150 in there with a 1000w hid. That and ac just can’t afford it. Since, it is supposed to be certain temp. I’ve got a tent which would do a lot to keep heat loss out of the room but you still need an in-line fan and outtake fan in your roof for it to be feasible. It’s not flowering yet so I’m pretty sure it’s not autoflower which either ppp northern lights or blue mystic. Honestly wouldn’t mind some more of that. But this plant has crystals on the leaves and is already sticky. The other wasn’t until the end. Plus this one is more frangrant already smells. Oh yeah and the particulates after a 5 stage pur faucet filter will be minimal. Why do you Think the minerals get added back in after 5 stage filter . So hopefully since that soil sat for a while and cooked it will work better on the seedlings. If not I’ll just buy potting soil. And I got the correct equipment this time for I wonder how big a plant I get with just the soil in those small pots. I forgot I kill everything I move.
In my opinion, it's better for a new grower to "pick a lane" and go either full organic in a peat based soil with dry organic amendments as fertilizers, or go hydroponic/semihydro with something like hempy buckets or drain to waste coco and feed nutrient salts. They are very different styles of growing, so it's best to pick one to focus on to start with.
DTW coco is easy if you can feed often enough, 2x per day minimum in a 2 gal pot during flower, but you must maintain a nutrient reservoir and learn to mix nutrients. Organics is easy if you start with a large amount of quality soil and learn when to top dress amendments and how often to water, but unless you are recycling that soil it can get expensive.
HID lighting is pretty much obsolete, only really useful for colder grow areas these days.
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Re: Indoor 300w led soil coir perlite compost [Re: NotE]
#864884 - 02/20/24 03:55 PM (1 year, 22 days ago) |
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Are you saying straight coir is hydroponics? Because I thought hydro were the red Rubbermaid tub with like 8 holes bored in the lid with a spigot hot glue gunned to the bottom. I have never heard str8 coir as hydro before. I thought it was those rock things. Miscommunication of sorts maybe?
Edit so I’m doing both hydro and soil at the same time. Now?
By straight coir, I mean straight up coco coir as a medium, no perlite, compost, or slow release ferts, just the same stuff you'd use to grow cubes. It is a more or less inert medium, so you have to feed with a balanced nutrient mix at a specific pH range every watering, at least once a day for established plants. You water till runoff to prevent nutrient salts from accumulating, hence why it is called drain to waste or run to waste coco.
It's technically considered "semi-hydroponics", as it uses a medium along with hydroponic nutrients. Regarding typical hydro setups in canna culture, RDWC is probably the most popular; recirculating deep water culture.
I recommend reading up on a few different grow styles/methods, and picking the one that seems most doable to you. Coco for cannabis is a good site to check out if you want to learn more about that style.
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Re: Indoor 300w led soil coir perlite compost [Re: NotE]
#864897 - 02/21/24 11:16 AM (1 year, 21 days ago) |
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Perlite is more so used for aeration, and is also more or less inert. With organic mixes you can get by without it, but it helps you achieve faster drybacks which is beneficial when overwatering is a concern.
Sorry, can't really tell whats going on in that pic.
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Re: Indoor 300w led soil coir perlite compost [Re: NotE]
#864903 - 02/21/24 02:33 PM (1 year, 21 days ago) |
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I don’t want to touch it but can uv (edit) light be harmful to roots?
UVB and UVC can for sure, not sure about UVA.
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Re: Indoor 300w led soil coir perlite compost [Re: NotE]
#865000 - 02/24/24 10:08 AM (1 year, 18 days ago) |
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In the last two pics, it looks like they are already flowering. Most likely autoflowers.
Running autos and photos in the same area presents an obstacle that you must pick a path around. Autos do best with longer light cycles, photos as you know flower on 12/12. I'd probably focus on the photoperiod plants for now.
When you flip will depend on how tall your grow space is, some plants stretch 2-3x during the first 3 weeks of flower. If you wanted to flip now you'd get a lower yield, but the longer you wait the more difficult it becomes to keep the plant healthy through flower, especially while you're still figuring stuff out.
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Re: Indoor 300w led soil coir perlite compost [Re: NotE]
#865403 - 03/12/24 10:24 AM (1 year, 1 day ago) |
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Some people flip them early to sex them, then reveg on 24/0 before the flower run. Reveg can take 2 months or so however, so there are better ways if you don't have a perpetual setup.
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Re: Indoor 300w led soil coir perlite compost [Re: NotE]
#865454 - 03/14/24 09:44 AM (11 months, 23 days ago) |
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Prune and train to shape the plant into a large flat canopy for best yields with a single plant, it takes some experience to get a feel for it. For the absolute highest yields, you'll want to look into sea of green growing. High plant counts means less veg time and thus more flower cycles per year. But you'll want to get good at cloning if you're doing a sog.
Rubbery stems? Powdery mildew typically shows up as white spots on your leaves, but there are other fungal pathogens that can infect the plant.
Are you keeping your humidity in check?
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Re: Indoor 300w led soil coir perlite compost [Re: NotE]
#865876 - 04/02/24 08:29 PM (11 months, 4 days ago) |
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Could they be autos? Photos will reveg under 24/0, but it will take a long time.
Personally I wouldn't let the roots dangle into a nutrient solution, thats asking for root rot.
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