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Re: The get hamhead into the thunderdome thread [Re: lowbrow]
#859465 - 11/05/22 08:14 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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I encourage this. Hammy, other than covid research, what kinda shit are you into? Any hobbies, music interests, favorite substances, etc?
I wanna know who Hamhead is as he ascends to the Thunderdome
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Re: The get hamhead into the thunderdome thread [Re: HamHead]
#859484 - 11/06/22 05:27 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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HamHead said: Oh, the Thunder Dome is calling my name right about now.
I really hope it's going to be like Twitter after Elon has taken over.
I am no longer afraid to post my mind on Twitter without fears of being censored or flagged for misinformation.
I can have actual conversations without having to dance around algorithms to avoid using naughty words.
Tell me, will I be banned from this Thunder Dome for speaking my mind?
Or will I be told I have to play nice and not be able to fully express my thoughts and opinions on what I've been perceiving.
The Dome is where all the trash talking goes and potentially offensive shit goes, much like OTD.
That said, if you attempt to use any part of the forum to spread hate, especially things like doxxing and attempting to incite or encourage violence based on that hate, I will personally permaban you, and take great pleasure in doing so.
XUL is an excellent example of how to get perma'd in the Dome.
It seems like the last 5+ years, this place has been where shroomerites come to get away from the fast-paced and somewhat toxic character the shroomery has taken on in the last decade. This is why I try to listen to the majority of regular members here and moderate accordingly.
This covid horseshit got way out of hand on the shroomery, to the point where it has to be consolidated to a single heavily regulated thread to contain the toxicity. I don't want that shit here in the smoke lounge, because a thread for it already exists on the shroomery, growery regulars have expressed their gratitude that it hasn't spread into here, and TBH anybody who is still arguing about covid is just doing so under the delusion of influence. Everyone has made up their mind about who they listen to and what they believe regarding the nature of the pandemic and the vaccines. Those who still argue are just doing it because they like online confrontation.
So yea, you can post all of the research you like in OTD as long as it doesnt start turning into hate speech, nobody really posts there since XUL came through.
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Re: The get hamhead into the thunderdome thread [Re: kreg]
#859494 - 11/08/22 07:12 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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kreg said:
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HamHead said: Oh, the Thunder Dome is calling my name right about now.
I really hope it's going to be like Twitter after Elon has taken over.
I am no longer afraid to post my mind on Twitter without fears of being censored or flagged for misinformation.
I can have actual conversations without having to dance around algorithms to avoid using naughty words.
Tell me, will I be banned from this Thunder Dome for speaking my mind?
Or will I be told I have to play nice and not be able to fully express my thoughts and opinions on what I've been perceiving.
twitters actually still fucked. People are still being wrongfully suspended
That's because Elon is a billionaire, and all billionaires suck
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Re: The get hamhead into the thunderdome thread [Re: HamHead]
#859501 - 11/09/22 02:16 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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HamHead said: Similar to how puppets get banned? Or, would impersonation be allowed here? Data?
Unapproved puppets will be banned here.
But that's also not the same thing. Puppets are the same person posing as multiple users, and other users can't tell the difference, so it opens up the risk of being manipulated, and allows single users to bypass content control features.
On Twitter, impersonators are multiple accounts trying to act like the same single person. Another big difference is, on Twitter, you have the profile name that shows up, and then you have the unique username handle for the account. You can change the account name to the exact name you want, but that username handle is unique and cant be the same as another account. That's equivalent to me changing my account title here to say "HamHead" and someone claiming that they can't tell your account from mine in threads, even though my account username is still listed as Data in all of my posts.
It's especially funny, because Twitter used to have a functional way of verifying individual accounts as being official to make it even more clear when someone was impersonating, and it was funny when you had parody accounts impersonating a real person, because it was (and still is) possible for individual users to tell the difference between a real person's account and the impersonators account.
Elon just doesn't like people taking advantage of his pay-to-verify system and his claims of first amendment protections and "comedy is now legal" and using it to make fun of him.
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Re: The get hamhead into the thunderdome thread [Re: HamHead]
#859516 - 11/10/22 06:36 AM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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HamHead said: That's intriguing. Is there an 'approved puppet'?
Being in the NFT space for almost a year now, I've seen a lot of scammers changing their twitter handles to match prominent figures within the space. They change a single letter in their @ handle to a similar looking letter/number or add an extra symbol or misspelling in some way.
An example would be changing the O in Elon to a 0, El0n. Yes, it's obvious to most people who pay attention to those sorts of things, but it does happen and people have been scammed out of money/crypto/NFTs falling prey to imposters.
I'm not sure if I'm able to pay the $8 for a blue check as I've been in time out a couple times within the past 12 months.
I see Catturd got one!
Yes there is such a thing as an approved puppet, and it usually involves contacting and gaining approval with an admin.
Again, it feels like Twitter used to have some way of dealing with these scam accounts that is now short-circuited by an $8 monthly subscription.
Imagine if we started accepting money for the Trusted Cultivator tag, you'd have such a hard time figuring out which users are giving crappy info vs those who have proven themselves to be effective cultivators and offer up solid answers to cultivation questions.
The notion sounds pretty silly to me, but then again I don't spend much time on Twitter
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Re: The get hamhead into the thunderdome thread [Re: lowbrow]
#859561 - 11/11/22 06:34 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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An old member stopped by to call us all drug addicts and then fucked off to whatever he's doing these days.
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Re: The get hamhead into the thunderdome thread [Re: lowbrow]
#859773 - 01/08/23 04:17 AM (2 years, 23 days ago) |
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This place is more dead than usual, maybe a couple of posts a week across the whole forum, none in the Dome aside from the ban lottery.
You'll pretty much be talking to yourself in there.
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Re: The get hamhead into the thunderdome thread [Re: HamHead]
#859776 - 01/09/23 09:30 AM (2 years, 22 days ago) |
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HamHead said: That's OK, at least I won't have to self censor and can post without fears of being banned.
To be clear, banning is at the discretion of the mods, and you can still be banned in OTD. I try to keep out of there unless there us blatant racism and/or calls to violence of any sort.
That said, I will also give you fair warning.
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Re: The get hamhead into the thunderdome thread [Re: lowbrow]
#860487 - 07/29/23 10:00 AM (1 year, 6 months ago) |
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Visual identification of "drop" is an unreliable observation method, because you're observing it through a fluid (atmosphere) that is never at thermal equilibrium and has a continously varying density with altitude. Atmospheric lensing can allow for pretty significant beyond horizon propagation of visible light.
The fact that there isn't a 2 dimensional map of the earth, that accurately represents the easily measurable distances between all points on the earth, without requiring non-physical slices or chunks being removed from the map, is proof that there isn't a planar relationship between surface distances and surface area. From this easily surveyable data (physical distances between points across the world, and the sizes and shapes of the non-physical chunks that need to be removed in order to accurately draw the earth's surface on a map), it's mathematically obvious that the earth is a spheroid.
That's really all you need to know to disprove flat earth theory. But there's also observable flight paths of satellites, the consistently normal gravity vector, the combination of the presence of a coriolis force and a lack of observable surface convexity (or evidence for a "lift" with distance)...all of this generally excludes a flat earth from the realm of possibility.
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Re: The get hamhead into the thunderdome thread [Re: HamHead]
#860493 - 07/29/23 10:07 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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So you're already decided? That map looks pretty fucked up based on the relative size of Madagascar to North America, or the Atlantic vs the Pacific ocean.
Like I said, direct observation of the curvature is unnecessary and impractical for the average person. There are other ways to disprove flat earth theory.
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Re: The get hamhead into the thunderdome thread [Re: Solid Log]
#860498 - 07/30/23 12:32 AM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Solid Log said: I tried to make the World into a globe.
These battered broken hands Have been forged into Iron fists To crush the strongest minds To build the weak into gods The weight of the world can't stop me now for I hold it in the palm of my hand This universe Is my stomping ground
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Re: The get hamhead into the thunderdome thread [Re: HamHead]
#860503 - 07/30/23 02:20 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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HamHead said: I've heard the size of North America is misrepresented and that Africa is much larger than what we see on globes.
I remember Kilindi Iyi saying that while flying over Africa, you could fly over the United States and not even notice. Africa is so big.
It's not misrepresentation, it's a projection of a curved surface onto a flat surface, that's what I was talking about in my first response.
This is an artifact of map projections, and the only way to fix the stretching and squishing of different areas is to have areas cut out of the map, so that it's not continuous on a planar surface.
Have you thought about anything else I said, or are we just going to talk about moon mirrors and theoretical lands behind the world map?
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Re: The get hamhead into the thunderdome thread [Re: HamHead]
#860508 - 07/30/23 07:32 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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HamHead said: You act as if I should be listening to you with blind faith.
No.
Yet you accept the idea of continents beyond Antarctica...
Also, I don't expect that from you, these are all easy-to-verify concepts. I don't expect you to take my word on it, but I do expect you to give at least as much google searching and thought to your responses to my arguments as you spend watching balloon videos and gods moon mirror on YouTube.
Sorry ham, but that's the minimum expectation for respectful discussion on what is largely considered a conspiracy theory.
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Re: The get hamhead into the thunderdome thread [Re: HamHead]
#860510 - 07/30/23 08:37 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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HamHead said: Gods moon mirror?
Look back at your own posts.
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HamHead said: Are there mathematical equations as to the diameter of this planet?
Yea man, look it up. I'm not going to spoon feed you basic geometry, and if you're denying the math necessary to expose clear relationships in data, then we have nothing more to discuss here
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HamHead said: And it's strange when NASA was established after Operation High Jump.
I'm curious as to if Admiral Richard Byrd's diaries are legit. Seemed to be an integral person.
I've done a quick search of Operation High Jump, and don't see any obvious conclusions or relationships involving flat earth theory. Maybe you can give more detail on the connections that you see here?
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HamHead said: I assume you think humans landed on the moon?
I thought you wanted to talk about flat earth theory? One conspiracy at a time please.
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Re: The get hamhead into the thunderdome thread [Re: HamHead]
#860514 - 07/30/23 11:17 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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I would counter that I'm tired of simple science topics being brushed off as vast worldwide cover-ups that serve seemingly no purpose. You are so quick to ignore the basic tools an individual can use to objectively determine truth in a physical system, yet you gobble up random shit like the UN flag and gods mirror moon, and string it together with logical fallacies into something that you truly believe in. It's fascinating how one-sided your approach to truth is.
How does any other topic you listed have anything to do with the legitimacy of flat earth? I offered up some explanations that involve simple geometry and physics, the contents of which can be readily observed and applied as a test, if you were so inclined to devote the time and resources. Whether or not the government lies has nothing to do with what I originally offered up for discussion, you brushed off everything I offered and pushed the convo in this direction, and I think it's because you'd rather wallow in your distrust of the government than actually think for yourself in a way that doesn't require the government or conspiracy youtubers.
You don't need to go to Antarctica to disprove flat earth. You don't need to go to space to disprove flat earth. You can use surveying to determine movements about the surface, and use that knowledge to verify the accuracy and consistency of navigating using the stars, and then use both of these techniques to survey the entire surface of the earth, using just you and what you know, and then try to draw it on a flat sheet of paper. I'm willing to bet that you simply can't do it, because the earth simply isn't flat.
Congrats on making it into the Dome, and proving to me that you're not interested in actually talking about whether or not flat earth is a theory that can align with testable and objective reality. It'll save me a lot of wasted effort in the Dome.
Have a good night.
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Re: The get hamhead into the thunderdome thread [Re: Manitou]
#860518 - 07/31/23 12:57 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Manitou said: Can you guys raise the amount of posts required for that guy to get access to the thunderdome?
that would be some silly shit, but I think only the admins can change those requirements.
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Re: The get hamhead into the thunderdome thread [Re: Solid Log]
#860520 - 07/31/23 02:04 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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I can ban you from the dome for however long you want...if that's really what you want
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Re: The get hamhead into the thunderdome thread [Re: Solid Log]
#860526 - 07/31/23 05:50 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Solid Log said: I want the one week from the Dome. The Dome has gotten to me sideways and Data must Punish.. He Must Punish!
Done
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Solid Log said: Also ban me for one month from Website development and feedback. I think it's called that or something like that.
You need to post there before I can ban you.
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Re: The get hamhead into the thunderdome thread [Re: Solid Log]
#860530 - 07/31/23 07:06 PM (1 year, 5 months ago) |
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Solid Log said: I decide I want the full Site Wide. Give me the 7 day Full On! Just milk the titties.
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Re: The get hamhead into the thunderdome thread [Re: HamHead] 1
#869069 - 09/26/24 09:58 PM (4 months, 1 day ago) |
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Keep this garbage in the Dome where it belongs.
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