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Re: Back at the growery... [Re: Data]
    #858632 - 08/24/22 10:19 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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I would love to grow again...but all I grow is veggies and cactus now :sad:




Are they :trippinbawelz: that kind of cactus?




Fuck yea bruh :awecid:








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Re: Back at the growery... [Re: Data]
    #858714 - 08/26/22 12:06 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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Lawd that looks nasty :dumblol:

I prefer to do an acid-base extraction to get a pretty white or off-white chloride salt. I'm a weenie when it comes to the taste of the cactus syrup. :scat:




Yeah. The sludge was definitely my least favorite way out of everything I tried. I feel like no matter what you do with all the trichocereus cacti, however, you're always settling for one issue or another.

I found that just eating the skins whole with some lemon or lime squeezed into chamomile and/or mint tea to wash it down gave me the best results. A little time consuming and still somewhat unpleasant but I've always had my longest and best trips this way.

Sludge tastes bad but was useful when a few of my friends wanted to try it, too. That picture was pretty much my first crude acid extraction. Just ground everything down and simmered it for a bit with some lemon juice. Also did the same for some Banisteriopsis caapi. Strained everything. Pretty much had trichohuasca at that point. If I remember correctly we drank the caapi about a half hour before the cactus slime. Worked pretty well but just wasn't as strong and lasting as just eating the plant matter. 

A/B Extractions are nice but I feel like the trips are shorter and often don't have the same degree of visuals. It could just be that one winds up losing some potency and/or other alkaloids that compliment the usual phenethylamines in cactus.

A few other times I just used powdered skins and packed them into a bunch of gel capsules (like 30-40 size-00s for an ounce of matter), Chased it with tea and lime like with the skins. Had decent results but the capsules make everything take longer to kick in and pretty much adds to the already ridiculous amount of matter that one is consuming for the process.

Peyote has it right. Just eat a few buttons and that's the end of it. Enjoy the next 12-16 hours. But it still takes forever to grow (grafting can obviously help that issue, though). And they're harder to find.


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Re: Back at the growery... [Re: Data]
    #858716 - 08/26/22 12:53 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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Data said: cactus syrup. :scat:






You know you want some, though. :howyoudoing:


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Re: Back at the growery... [Re: lowbrow]
    #858827 - 08/29/22 11:51 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

How'd it go?


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Re: Back at the growery... [Re: lowbrow]
    #858945 - 09/07/22 02:10 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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How'd it go?



It was fun. Took four hours to kick in. I didn’t know that it would have after effects that lasted for months on end. I wasn’t too keen on repeating the experience.

It reminds me of lsa.




Man. That stinks that you got such lengthy after effects.

I never got any after effects that lasted that long. Maybe a few days of being able to easily induce spacial warping or tracers if I relax my vision (as though I were looking at an optical illusion or something).

But I can't say I ever experienced any involuntary hallucinations or serious lingering effects. At worst I think I just felt drained for a few days after one trip that lasted about 18 hours.


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Re: Back at the growery... [Re: lowbrow]
    #858965 - 09/07/22 10:59 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I think most mescaline cacti have unique alkaloids. Bridgesii is touted to have a pretty unique experience. The main reason it seems peyote is nice is because you only have to take a few buttons due to how potent they are. By comparison, with the Trichocereus variety one has to take about an ounce of dry matter for a similar dose.


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Re: Back at the growery... [Re: lowbrow] * 1
    #858982 - 09/08/22 12:26 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

I don't know what kind of jimsonweed those people are claiming to have had but the two are almost complete opposites in my experience.

The tropane alkaloids in stuff like Datura and Jimsonweed makes people completely delirious (they're essentially anti histamines that practically poison you at active doses).

Mescaline and the cacti that contain it, on the other hand, are probably among the more level-headed, least delirium-inducing psychedelics I've come across.

Really, I don't think I would describe any psychedelic as "like Jimsonweed" unless it's just another plant or something containing said tropane alkaloids. Maybe benzos comes close. Both can make people do similarly stupid things. But people on tropane-drugs tend to look somewhat normal, if not extremely confused to the point where they'll do just about anything. While Benzos pretty much just makes people act drunk x10.


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Re: Back at the growery... [Re: lowbrow]
    #859001 - 09/08/22 07:47 PM (2 years, 5 months ago)

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He said it about peyote, not mescaline.




Jimsonweed isn't really similar to any mescaline cacti, Peyote included. Jimsonweed is like all the worst parts of an Ayahuasca experience combined with all the stupidity of a benzos binge. Whereas Peyote and other mescaline cacti are more like a combination of ecstasy and LSD.


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